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Post by swampdog on Aug 1, 2023 18:34:01 GMT -5
Comments regarding successful hunters at Dinner Island and some of the other areas down south got me thinking and wondering. What would you/we attribute the success of these hunters to? Is it just that they go all the time? Are they that much better than most everyone else? What do you say?
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Post by Crkr 23 on Aug 1, 2023 18:50:39 GMT -5
I've never hunted there but it is probably just plain old luck. But luck is where opportunity meets preparation. Opportunity means that they hunt a lot. Preparation means they scout a lot and shoot a lot whether it's bow, x bow, or gun. The minimize their mistakes. Again I've never hunted there and this is all opinion.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 1, 2023 18:54:21 GMT -5
Comments regarding successful hunters at Dinner Island and some of the other areas down south got me thinking and wondering. What would you/we attribute the success of these hunters to? Is it just that they go all the time? Are they that much better than most everyone else? What do you say? There’s a difference between what I would say is the secret of success for me and how it is that the consistently successful WMA hunters are so. I think it mostly has to to do with the time put in. Buck hunting isn’t like going bream fishing where you ought to be fill your bucket quick if you picked the right spot, the right bait, and the right time. People who kill a lot hunt a lot. Up until I quit putting a lot of stand time in when my daughter came, I’d get one shot a year at a truly mature buck. But it took hours of stand time. You’re trying to catch that needle in the haystack deciding to show itself at the edge of the stack when you’re there to see it. Now for me specifically, I believe a key is beating their noses. But I also think that not all humans smell the same to them and some humans naturally have a less disturbing presence in the woods than others. Those people that repel deer more easily have to take extra effort to negate their odor. But even then, if you aren’t in a high deer density area, you still got to put the time in.
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Post by walkerdog on Aug 1, 2023 20:46:04 GMT -5
Some pay a lot more attention to things that matter than others.
I’m always amazed at the things some people don’t consider. Common sense things like how wind direction and avenue of approach affect your ability to not be detected. A lot of people just take the most convenient route without giving much thought to the impact it has on their success.
Knowing local food sources and how they vary throughout the season can significantly improve your success. It doesn’t help to hunt in an oak strand when the acorns aren’t there or aren’t dropping yet.
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Post by pinman on Aug 1, 2023 21:25:58 GMT -5
Pretty much if you do the opposite of what I do youll kill Deer....I suck at Deer hunting....
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Post by garycoleco on Aug 1, 2023 21:55:02 GMT -5
1. Deer are slaves to their stomach 2. Most of the daily intake of water cones from what they eat. Don't hunt water unless you're hunting in a desert 3. Deer are lazy. Like all animals they believe in conserving energy. They don't walk around aimlessly. Rut is the slight exception
Summation. Hunt anywhere food is close to shelter.
Also, when scouting lower your head to their eye level. It's a completely different perspective
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Post by killingtime on Aug 2, 2023 6:37:37 GMT -5
Being mobile and not hunting the same tree every time has helped me get on them. Hunt where they are not where you want them to be.
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Post by One Man Gang on Aug 2, 2023 7:12:20 GMT -5
By no means do i consider myself a proficient deer hunter but I do ok.
In my opinion you have to scout. The more time in the woods the better. You need to become familiar with your hunting area. Know the terrain, the prevailing winds, the food sources, and the bedding/security areas. Use them all to prepare a plan and be adaptable. You should try stay current as the area changes.
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Post by richm on Aug 2, 2023 7:52:23 GMT -5
I’m just starting to get better at FL deer hunting.
Last year was like dumb luck but it was a funnel that had hot sign leading into it a week earlier - saw 4 does on the other side the day before… stayed along the edge and climbed the first good tree - didnt explore instead minimized my presence, couple hours later buck came thru and ended my season.
Bottom line is that the guys who always succeed refuse to accept less. They scout before and during the hunts, remember previous lessons, and only hunt hot sign or places they know the deer will be.
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Post by meateater on Aug 2, 2023 10:00:07 GMT -5
i would say time spent hunting but then again i know plenty of guys including myself who have taken deer on opening weekend, 4 years in a row till last 2 seasons i took a nice buck on the same wma on opening day non quota. so i would say scouting and always know what the wind is doing, i dont do any scent control to speak of but i always set up down wind of where deer should be approaching. i dont really road hunt,spot and stalk or whatever else there is to do, im a treestand guy 95% of the time during bow season and blackpowder so playing the wind is very important since 10 maybe 12 feet high is my max.
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Post by altuck on Aug 2, 2023 10:22:58 GMT -5
1. Time spent in the woods. (actually, scouting and hunting, not just walking around) 2. Understanding the animal (habits, preferences etc.) 3. Planning (but be flexible) 4. Dumb luck
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Post by bswiv on Aug 2, 2023 18:36:18 GMT -5
"Define your terms."......Ayn Rand............
Success is.........??
A very cold morning in the stand, one where the first rays of sunlight caused you to shift your hands into it and then relish the feeling of them changing from stiff and painful to warm. And while that is going on a bobcat slips through the little edge of swamp you're hunting, stopping to look about and then scratch and clean his face.
And you never see a deer......and is it a success?
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Post by 4ward on Aug 2, 2023 19:30:36 GMT -5
Of course, time in the woods is #1. Enjoyment of the sunrise, the bobcat or even the pileated that is screaming in your ear. If you enjoy those things, then you spend more time in the woods. Learning to scout from a distance is very important in my opinion. Only go in when you feel it’s time to chance a harvest. Deer don’t like us “ all up in their shit”.
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Post by james243 on Aug 2, 2023 21:09:20 GMT -5
Be ready to shoot. Phone usage has let a few deer get away from me. Lots of great advice above. One more thing I can suggest is be willing to hunt all day. Hunt at 11:30 or 1:30 just as hard as you would at sunrise/ sunset. The deer are out there. There are as many good mid day spots as morning and evening spots, unless your deer stand still all day. Make having lunch in the woods instead of elsewhere your plan.
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Post by fishingsouthflorida1 on Aug 4, 2023 8:35:46 GMT -5
I think the main thing is scout. Scout scout scout. Getting out there as much as possible. Or even looking at google earth to find other areas. Don’t just stick to one spot because you got a buck on camera one time. Find where he is so that you get him every other day if not everyday. And playing the wind I believe is HUGE down here. You’ll never be able to get rid of your scent completely here in the south. At least for me I start sweating the second I step out of my car so scent control is a myth imo. So playing the wind is very key and as well as entering an area in a way the deer don’t. I’ve noticed several times that I had success it was because I entered the area from a different way because I had a suspicion that they were using my path and sure enough the first day I came in the other way I shot that buck
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Post by grizzl on Aug 4, 2023 13:09:23 GMT -5
Focus on a WMA that is close to you so you can invest time in scouting. Walk that WMA thoroughly.Search for trails (pretty easy to see and any scrapes along those trails). I log my scouting tracks on my GPS following these trails and then xfer them to Google Earth and see what the topography is. Follow rub lines, thick cover edges, creek beds, OAKS (you can ID Oak Hammock GPS Coord using Google Earth-check areas in August for signs of Mast and record the years the Oaks do drop..then you'll have a good calendar year after year when you would expect mast production),signs of other hunters using the area. During the muzz/gun season if you haven't patterned any deer..setup where you "suspect" activity is and get up high for the greatest field of view and see what is moving...you can setup closer to activity once you spot the movement from afar...and be ready for next year's archery season ti hunt closer.
Consistent Deer hunting success is time spent in the woods (90% scouting..10% Hunting)
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Post by oldbastard on Aug 5, 2023 6:16:06 GMT -5
You need to be able to bend the rules. Take that shot at a deer just across the fence line. I like to set up on game trails that go to feeders, on public land when you dump corn cover it up with palmettos. Deer and pigs will still find it but the man won't.
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Post by meateater on Aug 8, 2023 11:23:16 GMT -5
You need to be able to bend the rules. Take that shot at a deer just across the fence line. I like to set up on game trails that go to feeders, on public land when you dump corn cover it up with palmettos. Deer and pigs will still find it but the man won't. when you think about it how many deer get shot on public land then run over on to private land, seems to happen all the time so if you shoot one on wrong side of fence chances are he will end up on your side. you might be on to something you oldbastard.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 8, 2023 12:45:38 GMT -5
When I kept 1500 acres on the edge of a WMA, the WMA hunters would crowd my border. I’d crowd theirs. They were waiting for the deer to come off of my side. I was waiting for the deer to walk by them and come onto my side. Most of the time, the latter is what would happen. Many a morning a buck would maneuver through the palmettos in the WMA and cross into my side without the WMA hunter seeing. Then it would get shot on my side.
I learned a lot about how deer can creep through chest high cover without being seen, and how often they’ll stick close to parked trucks to avoid hunters.
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Post by TRTerror on Aug 13, 2023 9:12:33 GMT -5
I well remember a few years ago on my Lease.. I had stand hunted for 3 days in a row and seen like 5 deer..wth. I put the old CJ 5 in Low Low and just rode the roads looking at fresh tracks. I'd drop a small piece of flagging tape where I saw tracks crossing the roads. After I did a bunch of riding I went back to where I saw the most tracks and set up about 100 yards in. Saw 17 deer the first morning in. Went back with my Pard and we both shot 8 points the next morning. Got to hunt Where the deer are not where they were last year.
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Post by cubandelight on Aug 17, 2023 20:26:21 GMT -5
. Got to hunt Where the deer are not where they were last year. A good hunter should be able to walk onto almost any quota hunt in florida, especially with a bow and kill a deer in one or two days as long as he covers enough ground to find fresh sign.
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Post by richm on Aug 18, 2023 6:04:29 GMT -5
I learned a lot about how deer can creep through chest high cover without being seen, and how often they’ll stick close to parked trucks to avoid hunters. I'm almost convinced this is how to hunt for opening day deer in busy areas. The guys all park and fan out into the woods, then the deer go the opposite direction of where they heard the most noise - to the vehicles. Got run out of the hunt area by like 12 guys coming in and just threw the towel, walked out at 0900 and there were 2 deer within 50-60 yds of the parked vehicles. As I watched them i could see other deer walking across the road off in the distance - saw a big deer and walked over to see where he went. Bed was within 50 yds of road and had a rub adjacent to it. This was all at Toso. I only hunt there on someone else's permit.
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Post by anumber1 on Aug 19, 2023 17:07:08 GMT -5
A damn good pack of dogs, that's the secret.
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Post by tampaspicer on Aug 21, 2023 15:33:43 GMT -5
A damn good pack of dogs, that's the secret. The smartest bucks I've ever hunted were in the dog woods.
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Post by anumber1 on Aug 21, 2023 18:36:06 GMT -5
A damn good pack of dogs, that's the secret. The smartest bucks I've ever hunted were in the dog woods. yep
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Post by whitebacon on Aug 21, 2023 18:58:23 GMT -5
The smartest bucks I've ever hunted were in the dog woods. yep Never understood the attraction of deer. Drop 25 wild quail on a cold morning in Thomasville. Then we can talk.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 21, 2023 21:37:53 GMT -5
Never understood the attraction of deer. Drop 25 wild quail on a cold morning in Thomasville. Then we can talk. I’ve never even seen 25 wild quail in a day. I think I’ve never seen a covey much bigger than 5-6 and never more than a handful of times a year.
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Post by anumber1 on Aug 22, 2023 6:26:45 GMT -5
Never understood the attraction of deer. Drop 25 wild quail on a cold morning in Thomasville. Then we can talk. I have dogs for that also. Attachments:
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Post by One Man Gang on Aug 22, 2023 6:43:20 GMT -5
It would be a dream to take my 14 year old to hunt wild birds behind Art's dogs.
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Post by anumber1 on Aug 22, 2023 7:28:53 GMT -5
It would be a dream to take my 14 year old to hunt wild birds behind Art's dogs. it's not a productive endeavor usually, but I find the time well spent. maybe whenit cools down we can hook up.
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