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Post by Tarponator on Oct 18, 2024 16:51:24 GMT -5
I answered in my initial reply but I can expand at your request. In Miami Herald Publishing Co. v. Tornillo case, when editorial decisions express and convey editors’ ideas, they receive First Amendment protection. However, in FCC v. Midwest Video Corp, when they do not, or the regime at issue allows editors to express their own views, First Amendment protection is limited or non-existent. The Supreme Court has never endorsed the position that every aspect of operating a communications network is protected speech, and the consequences of such a view would be untenable. The Court has only given editorial decision-making limited First Amendment protection. You haven't answered the question in either apparent attempt. How do those cases apply to the issue at hand? Not your confusion over my writing, nor the limitations of the 1st Amendment, but the actual issue of editing.
Hint: They don't.
Of course, I'm open to the idea that I'm incorrect, so explain yourself.
Woof, woof.
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Post by cadman on Oct 18, 2024 16:51:51 GMT -5
I answered in my initial reply but I can expand at your request. In Miami Herald Publishing Co. v. Tornillo case, when editorial decisions express and convey editors’ ideas, they receive First Amendment protection. However, in FCC v. Midwest Video Corp, when they do not, or the regime at issue allows editors to express their own views, First Amendment protection is limited or non-existent. The Supreme Court has never endorsed the position that every aspect of operating a communications network is protected speech, and the consequences of such a view would be untenable. The Court has only given editorial decision-making limited First Amendment protection. FCC v. Midwest Video Corp is about a cable company no discriminating over who has access to public stations as required by FCC rule. it is not about a shows content. Two different issues. Also, according to the FCC complaint, an affiliate owned by CBS is subject of the complaint, not CBS itself. I still doubt the FCC has any authority over how 60 minutes desires to edit their interviews. I am sure CBS pays their legal staff to be sure they are not in violation of FCC rules. If the FCC starts controlling the editing power of "news" programs like 60 minutes, a lot of "news" programs on all the networks will have to ensure they do not edit any segment of their programs that might make the person being interviewed look good or bad.
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 18, 2024 16:54:32 GMT -5
^ I thought they were against big government? Does the FCC not count due to some double secret MAGA exception?
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 18, 2024 19:26:01 GMT -5
Do the Trump voters around here seem like a smart and measured group? Sounds like I need to add the Univision interview to the queue.
Thanks.
Certainly not any less so than the Harris voters that post on the forum here.
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 18, 2024 19:28:14 GMT -5
After the Fox interview.... democrat voters are asking the DNC to put Biden back on the ballot. That’s just funny right there!🤣👍
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 18, 2024 19:45:55 GMT -5
^If Trump were to win, not that Biden would ever let the transfer of power happen with his total immunity, but if he did, you'd have a President Vance by rear's end. That’s one reason people are voting for Big Meanie. He has a better succession plan than Kamala.
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 18, 2024 19:50:06 GMT -5
Is that a yes? Or no? Tell you what, I will say, go ahead and welch on the bet. Just admit you were wrong. Do you not understand how betting works? He has to accept the bet, which he did not. Just because you propose it does not make it a bet. True. Just like BT, Mr.Jr. Doesn’t have enough faith in what he posts being true to stand behind it.
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 18, 2024 20:02:26 GMT -5
While you continuously sidestep my questions (sound familiar?), I'm not arguing for anything, except for you to stop being so ignorantly and naively partisan. Let me help: Recorded news programs edit interviews as a matter of course. You literally have never seen one that hasn't been edited. In the case of Kamala's interview, you haven't seen the unedited version, and you have no idea if what CAR alleges is true, and even it if is, that it somehow is against the law or regulation. Cad nailed it in his first (and second) post on the topic -- happens all the time and this is just a bunch of blowhard lawyers making a political stink about it.
Now share what video you've seen, and perhaps I can figure out how easily you were led astray -- there are a few versions floating around, and I wouldn't want to presume.
Would you like more apples?
Not that he is, but why do you think you can be partisan but others can’t? Seems a little hypocritical.
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Post by Tarponator on Oct 18, 2024 20:22:57 GMT -5
Let me know the next time you think I'm being ignorantly and naively partisan, and I'd be happy to discuss it.
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 18, 2024 21:17:05 GMT -5
Do you not understand how betting works? He has to accept the bet, which he did not. Just because you propose it does not make it a bet. True. Just like BT, Mr.Jr. Doesn’t have enough faith in what he posts being true to stand behind it. Mocking MAGA fucktards is payment enough on its own.
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 18, 2024 21:25:47 GMT -5
Says the guy who doesn’t even believe the crap he posts.🙄
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Post by cadman on Oct 19, 2024 8:24:02 GMT -5
in 2016 All of the polls showed Hillary winning Handily.... and I bet Rory Mar a bunch of y'all know him... 500 that trump would win.... And I got him to give me 4 to 1 odds... At the time... both he and I were both backing trump.... He lost... and I had a check in my mailbox Saturday morning....
Kamala is winning this one..... I have not made a wrong pick....Since Ford Carter in 1976.... It is all on what I learned from my father...His first college degree is in political science.... His first pick was Eisenhower vs Stevenson in 1952.... He has never been wrong...saHe drills down... He does not close attention to polls.... He ain't been wrong yet.... he says this one is going to be close... The closest of his life.... But he says Kamala is winning..
You could be right that Harris wins, but it will be close. The battleground states are close in the polls. The down ticket Democrats are in the lead in most polls, Harris is almost certain to win the popular vote. Early voting, which, historically, had favored Democrats, is very strong. She has quite a few positives going her way. But Trump tied or leading in the battleground ground states that matter the most. Trump typically does better than polling indicates in a couple of those battleground states. It is hard to overlook the positives for Trump in this election. I think Harris wins the popular vote and Trump bucks the odds once again and wins the electoral vote by a slim majority. He might even get 306 electoral votes, but even if he wins with 275, he will claim it was the largest landslide victory ever.
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Post by tonyroma on Oct 19, 2024 9:13:12 GMT -5
^Pubs have wised up to early and mail in voting.
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 19, 2024 14:43:23 GMT -5
^Pubs have wised up to early and mail in voting. Especially the ones that are skipping Trump, writing in DeSantis, or voting Harris. She doesn't need that many to make it a lock.
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 19, 2024 14:45:34 GMT -5
The media needs it to be a horserace, but the reality is that due to women knowing this is their only chance of saving their reproductive freedoms it's already a blow out blue wave.
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Post by luapnor on Oct 20, 2024 9:31:03 GMT -5
Line of cars to park and line of people to check in and line to get to a voting booth. How long were the lines in Charlotte ,Raleigh , and Fayetteville? 335,000 early voters since Tuesday, not counting Saturday. Saturday was the busiest day. The hurricane hasn't slowed voting down. So I guess it was the whole state. By the number of Kamaltoe's ads, I would guess they think they are behind. Correction... It was over 350,000 on just the first day.
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Post by walkerdog on Oct 20, 2024 12:27:20 GMT -5
Seeing that in FL too (the adds).
She should save her money, if she’s trying to win the state.
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Post by luapnor on Oct 20, 2024 17:40:03 GMT -5
I was exit polled... told them I voted for Kamala.
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Post by resinhead on Oct 20, 2024 20:10:43 GMT -5
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Post by tonyroma on Oct 20, 2024 21:01:00 GMT -5
I was exit polled... told them I voted for Kamala. I’m a registered Republican.
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 20, 2024 21:05:15 GMT -5
I was exit polled... told them I voted for Kamala. Now you know why PDMS,F.
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Post by luapnor on Oct 21, 2024 5:42:39 GMT -5
I was exit polled... told them I voted for Kamala. I’m a registered Republican. How does that matter? This isn't a primary. Democrats skipped democracy 101. Do you think they will assume you voted for Trump? I'm registered libertarian...so maybe I am considered independent by polling companies?
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Post by Mynki on Oct 21, 2024 7:02:48 GMT -5
I was exit polled... told them I voted for Kamala. Don't worry, they'll have noticed the slack jaw, six fingers and Russian accent and ticked the other box.
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Post by JS84 on Oct 21, 2024 8:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 21, 2024 12:58:33 GMT -5
However, polling in the seven key battleground states—Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin—remains within the margin of error, meaning typical polling inaccuracies could shift the results in either direction.
PDMS
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Post by JS84 on Oct 21, 2024 13:26:50 GMT -5
FIFY
"The former Republican president has gained a lead in polling averages in Wisconsin and Michigan, adding to his existing advantages in Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. However, polling in the seven key battleground states—Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin—remains within the margin of error, meaning typical polling inaccuracies could shift the results in either direction."
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Post by meateater on Oct 21, 2024 13:31:07 GMT -5
FIFY "The former Republican president has gained a lead in polling averages in Wisconsin and Michigan, adding to his existing advantages in Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. However, polling in the seven key battleground states—Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin—remains within the margin of error, meaning typical polling inaccuracies could shift the results in either direction." can anyone guess who almost everytime outperforms what the polls say.
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 21, 2024 13:31:14 GMT -5
FIFY "The former Republican president has gained a lead in polling averages in Wisconsin and Michigan, adding to his existing advantages in Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. However, polling in the seven key battleground states—Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin—remains within the margin of error, meaning typical polling inaccuracies could shift the results in either direction." How'd the wildly predicted midterm red wave and every election, anywhere, since Dobb's turn out in relation to what the polls and betting markets were saying? PDMS
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Post by biminitwisted on Oct 21, 2024 13:31:38 GMT -5
FIFY "The former Republican president has gained a lead in polling averages in Wisconsin and Michigan, adding to his existing advantages in Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. However, polling in the seven key battleground states—Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin—remains within the margin of error, meaning typical polling inaccuracies could shift the results in either direction." can anyone guess who almost everytime outperforms what the polls say. How about when abortion is on the ballot?
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Post by resinhead on Oct 22, 2024 11:32:11 GMT -5
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