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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:42:47 GMT -5
That's fine, and your right. Bully for you. But, don't then, disingenuously, pretend that your views are shared by more people than they are in an election lead up. Which is the context here. They’re shared by a lot. More than I think you believe. If only there were some way to measure that in votes?
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 18:49:49 GMT -5
Morally superior? According to whom? You? Your bible, that is silent on the topic? Please, save your self-righteousness moral superiority for someone whose morals are the same as yours, then judge away....even though I seem to recall a certain someone told you not to do those sorts of things.
Moving on, are you seriously suggesting that women are split 50-50 on the abortion issue? If so, I've got some news for you, and I don't think you are going to like it.
I know that Certain Someone personally. You do not. His Spirit actually lives inside of me. I am a vastly superior arbiter of His words than you are. Abortion on demand for convenience sake is absolutely disgusting. The equivlent of the ancient practices of sacrificing children to demons to try to influence crop fertility and rainfall. A practice that Certain Someone found so morally repugnant that He sanctioned genocide against a culture to punish them for it. No, you don't. You've never met him. You've never talked to him. Nothing lives inside of you except your beliefs, and just because you believe it doesn't make it true...and that's looking past the obvious: that you have absolutely no real proof of any of that.
Equating the modern question of abortion to the ancient practice of child sacrifice is ridiculous and only goes to your clear bias.
If you would like to discuss any book or passage of the NT or OT, I'm ready willing and able, and you are no more able to arbitrate your imaginary friend's words than I am.
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Post by pinman on Jul 16, 2024 18:56:10 GMT -5
Who has ever voted for a vice president?😉 One VP once said the job was like a warm bucket of spit!😁 In the Democrats case currently, if they stay with the Biden / Harris ticket, they are most certainly voted for the VP....
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 18:56:47 GMT -5
They’re shared by a lot. More than I think you believe. If only there were some way to measure that in votes? Forget votes, here's the raw data:
Roughly 2 out of 3 women are pro-choice, and the gap is widening.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 19:03:09 GMT -5
They’re shared by a lot. More than I think you believe. If only there were some way to measure that in votes? So if Trump and Vance win?
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 19:10:00 GMT -5
If only there were some way to measure that in votes? So if Trump and Vance win? Rigged, of course.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 16, 2024 21:38:45 GMT -5
So if Trump and Vance win? Rigged, of course. Drop boxes and mules.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 23:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by cadman on Jul 17, 2024 19:45:10 GMT -5
I just found out why Vance has a beard.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 17, 2024 19:50:45 GMT -5
Perfect Trump VP. There's no way the patriots are going to be able to get a noose over that melon.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 17, 2024 21:34:56 GMT -5
Looks like Private Pyle , get that man a jelly doughnut.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 21:46:04 GMT -5
Perfect Trump VP. There's no way the patriots are going to be able to get a noose over that melon.Looks like you're toning down the rhetoric .
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 18, 2024 12:35:14 GMT -5
Higher tariffs equal higher prices on goods , throwing logs on the inflation fire. That isnt how it works.
Would you please enlighten us? Because if higher tariffs don't cause higher prices on the targeted goods, what good are they?
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Post by meateater on Jul 18, 2024 12:39:47 GMT -5
Perfect Trump VP. There's no way the patriots are going to be able to get a noose over that melon.Looks like you're toning down the rhetoric . i dont think a noose would work on the current vp and soon to be the democrat choice for president, see her esophagus,windpipe and all the muscles ,tendons,vertabra and such in her mouth,throat and neck has been worn out and turned into a spongy gelatin from all the different dicks shes sucked over the years.
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Post by meateater on Jul 18, 2024 12:41:45 GMT -5
Looks like Private Pyle , get that man a jelly doughnut. making fun of the mentally challenged, real nice
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Post by cadman on Jul 18, 2024 12:43:41 GMT -5
Looks like Private Pyle , get that man a jelly doughnut. making fun of the mentally challenged, real nice Vance is mentally challenged?
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Post by meateater on Jul 18, 2024 12:48:14 GMT -5
making fun of the mentally challenged, real nice Vance is mentally challenged? no private pyle was.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 18, 2024 13:02:30 GMT -5
vances charity to help with drug abuse in Ohio spent all its money on...guess what? Salaries and BS. So he is a crook just like felon trump. And some evidence is pointing to him illegally using the money to launch his senate campaign. Wonder if trump vetted him?
Business Insider: ‘Hillbilly Elegy’ author JD Vance is running for Senate as a savior of the Rust Belt. Insiders and experts say otherwise.
Adam Wren and Meghan Morris
August 29, 2021
After moving back to Ohio in 2017, Vance founded Our Ohio Renewal, a nonprofit dedicated to fighting the opioid epidemic that he wrote about so wrenchingly in his memoir. He also raised $93 million to launch Narya Capital, a venture-capital firm focused on startups in the Midwest. The two projects are key chapters in his political biography — accomplishments he’s frequently cited to portray himself as a job creator and champion of the white working class. “What we need in Washington is not just leaders who talk about doing things,” he said on a recent campaign stop in his hometown of Middletown, “but have actually done them and will continue to do them.” Plenty of politicians seek to bolster their image by pointing to their business acumen and philanthropic efforts. In reality, though, it’s not clear what, if anything, Vance has achieved through his company or his charity. A review by Insider of Our Ohio Renewal’s tax filings showed that in its first year, the nonprofit spent more on “management services” provided by its executive director — who also serves as Vance’s top political advisor — than it did on programs to fight opioid abuse. The group, which has shut down its website and abandoned its Twitter account after publishing only two tweets, says it commissioned a survey to gauge the needs and welfare of Ohioans, but Vance’s campaign declined to provide any documentation of the project. A spokeswoman for Ohio’s largest anti-opioid coalition told Insider that she hadn’t heard of Vance’s organization. “This is a charade,” said Doug White, a nonprofit expert and former director of the master’s program in fundraising management at Columbia University, who reviewed Our Ohio Renewal’s tax filings for Insider. “It’s a superficial way for him to say he’s helping Ohio. None of that is actually happening, from what I can tell.” Over a martini with a Washington Post writer in early 2017, Vance expressed misgivings about running for office. At the time, he was looking to help his home state through his nascent nonprofit, Our Ohio Renewal. “I’m not going to say that I’m never going to run,” he said. But he made clear what he thought of politics. “I think running a small nonprofit to work on the opioid crisis and bring interesting new businesses to the so-called Rust Belt — all of these things are valuable, if not more valuable, than running for office.” Our Ohio Renewal, Vance explained in August 2017, would identify “the things that have been tried, from prevention programs to physician training to treatment options, and trying to understand how well they are working.” Its mission statement was audacious: “Our Ohio Renewal is dedicated to promoting the ideas and addressing the problems identified in J.D. Vance’s #1 Bestseller, Hillbilly Elegy, related to divides along racial, economic, and cultural lines.” It would engage in political advocacy across Ohio, including “fighting against opiate abuse.” In its first year, according to an Insider review of its public tax filings, the nonprofit brought in $221,135. Jai Chabria, the nonprofit’s principal officer, earned more in management fees — $63,425 — than the company spent on programming, which totaled about $50,000. Chabria, a former senior advisor to John Kasich and an employee of Lehman Brothers and Barclays Capital, is now advising Vance’s Senate campaign. But Our Ohio Renewal’s biggest problem wasn’t its spending; it was its lack of fundraising. The nonprofit raised so little in each of the last three years — less than $50,000 a year — that it wasn’t even required by the IRS to disclose its activities and finances. “It’s a pittance, given what they said they want to accomplish,” said White, the nonprofit expert who reviewed the organization’s initial filing. “This is a very small operation. They’re not doing much. I don’t think it rises to the level of fraud, but they are sitting around doing nothing.” The only accomplishments listed in Our Ohio Renewal’s 2017 tax filing are the $45,000 it spent for a survey of the “social, cultural and general welfare needs of Ohio Citizens,” along with travel and meeting expenses. Vance told Columbus Monthly that the nonprofit sponsored a yearlong residency for Sally Satel, a psychiatrist and research fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, who treated patients at a methadone clinic in an underserved area of southern Ohio. But Our Ohio Renewal declined to respond to questions about its programs and finances, and Satel did not respond to Insider’s request for an interview. It looks different now, with him being a Senate candidate. […] Whatever Our Ohio Renewal did to fight the opioid epidemic, it did so without joining the state’s largest anti-opioid partnership. […] These days, Vance seems reluctant to even acknowledge his signature philanthropic effort. In the section of his campaign’s new issues page devoted to the opioid epidemic, the candidate makes no mention of Our Ohio Renewal. […] The nonprofit, he [Jivani] acknowledged, never lived up to the vision he and Vance hashed out that night in German Village. “It looks different now with him being a Senate candidate,” Jivani said.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 18, 2024 14:29:24 GMT -5
Anyone think that vance isn't a grifter?
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Post by Captj on Jul 18, 2024 14:30:10 GMT -5
Just what we needed: a first term senator with no experience running a large populace, not to mention a country. Experience? Not needed. On the job training will be given when deemed necessary. The job description for Republican VP is the intention to cancel the real electors, put aside the real vote, and declare Trump the winner because he says he is.
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Post by meateater on Jul 18, 2024 14:42:31 GMT -5
Just what we needed: a first term senator with no experience running a large populace, not to mention a country. Experience? Not needed. On the job training will be given when deemed necessary. The job description for Republican VP is the intention to cancel the real electors, put aside the real vote, and declare Trump the winner because he says he is. hussien obama has entered the chat.
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Post by meateater on Jul 18, 2024 14:43:41 GMT -5
Anyone think that vance isn't a grifter? can you name a few that arent.
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Post by cadman on Jul 18, 2024 15:35:32 GMT -5
Just what we needed: a first term senator with no experience running a large populace, not to mention a country. Experience? Not needed. On the job training will be given when deemed necessary. The job description for Republican VP is the intention to cancel the real electors, put aside the real vote, and declare Trump the winner because he says he is. Wasn't Obama a first term senator?
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Post by cyclist on Jul 18, 2024 15:38:52 GMT -5
Just what we needed: a first term senator with no experience running a large populace, not to mention a country. Experience? Not needed. On the job training will be given when deemed necessary. The job description for Republican VP is the intention to cancel the real electors, put aside the real vote, and declare Trump the winner because he says he is. Wasn't Obama a first term senator? Second term, and he didn't run a fake non-profit and steal money from its donors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2024 15:47:58 GMT -5
Wasn't Obama a first term senator? Second term, and he didn't run a fake non-profit and steal money from its donors. Had some other good qualities too. Your guy covered some of them. " I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man." - Joe Biden
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Post by cadman on Jul 18, 2024 16:17:59 GMT -5
Wasn't Obama a first term senator? Second term, and he didn't run a fake non-profit and steal money from its donors. First term U.S. Senator. Obama served in the state senate before that.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 20, 2024 6:16:13 GMT -5
Just what we needed: a first term senator with no experience running a large populace, not to mention a country. Experience? Not needed. On the job training will be given when deemed necessary. The job description for Republican VP is the intention to cancel the real electors, put aside the real vote, and declare Trump the winner because he says he is. Bet you voted Obama twice, and he had less experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 6:35:46 GMT -5
Vance is very intelligent and articulate. He will do fine as VP and then serve 8 years as president helping get our country back on the right track.
God Bless America 🇺🇸
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Post by luapnor on Jul 20, 2024 12:03:21 GMT -5
Vance is anti-Ukraine funding...don't need much more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 12:21:47 GMT -5
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