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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 13:36:18 GMT -5
I wonder why that article doesn't mention his wanting to cut Social Security?
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 16, 2024 13:54:26 GMT -5
I wonder why that article doesn't mention his wanting to cut Social Security? Source? Here's what I've read about his thoughts on SS reform (which are wacky, but at least he's thought about it):
In talking to Ross Douthat of the Times, Vance outlines his thoughts on how to fix Social Security: “Take those seven million prime-age men not in the labor force. Those people are supported, very often, by public resources. You shift millions of those men from not working to working; you increase wages across the board; you increase tariffs; and I think that you buy yourself a whole hell of a lot more than the nine or 10 years that the actuaries say that we have. You get more revenue, yes, from tariffs, but from more people being in the labor force, from higher productivity growth, from higher wages, from transitioning young people who are not working into the work force.”
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 16, 2024 13:57:07 GMT -5
Not one thing they have ever promises would lead to higher wages lead to higher wages
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 14:11:10 GMT -5
I wonder why that article doesn't mention his wanting to cut Social Security? Source? Here's what I've read about his thoughts on SS reform (which are wacky, but at least he's thought about it):
In talking to Ross Douthat of the Times, Vance outlines his thoughts on how to fix Social Security: “Take those seven million prime-age men not in the labor force. Those people are supported, very often, by public resources. You shift millions of those men from not working to working; you increase wages across the board; you increase tariffs; and I think that you buy yourself a whole hell of a lot more than the nine or 10 years that the actuaries say that we have. You get more revenue, yes, from tariffs, but from more people being in the labor force, from higher productivity growth, from higher wages, from transitioning young people who are not working into the work force.”
I was wrong.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 16, 2024 14:35:34 GMT -5
Higher tariffs equal higher prices on goods , throwing logs on the inflation fire.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 14:52:14 GMT -5
Of course people change their mind all the time when it comes to politics. Question is did Vance change his opinion of Trump, or Hitler.
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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2024 15:22:56 GMT -5
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 16, 2024 15:24:16 GMT -5
Higher tariffs equal higher prices on goods , throwing logs on the inflation fire.
Yep. If Trump gets his way, inflation will come roaring back. Tax cuts, tariffs, deporting illegals who work at our lowest paying jobs, will result in higher costs of goods and services and higher federal borrowing, higher national debt and higher interest rates.
That's not politics, it's economics.
Maybe we shouldn't chant "Fight!"
New campaign cheer: "Higher!"
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 15:48:34 GMT -5
I wonder why Vance deleted this from his website?
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 16, 2024 15:51:36 GMT -5
I wonder why Vance deleted this from his website?
Orders from above. Notice the R platform doesn't mention abortion, or the deficit.
Trump has pushed the party toward the center.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 15:54:43 GMT -5
I wonder why Vance deleted this from his website?
Orders from above. Notice the R platform doesn't mention abortion, or the deficit.
Trump has pushed the party toward the center.
Yes, personally being responsible for overturning Roe, and bragging about is classic centrist. I'm sure America's women won't remember.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 16, 2024 16:19:00 GMT -5
Who has ever voted for a vice president?😉 One VP once said the job was like a warm bucket of spit!😁
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Post by luapnor on Jul 16, 2024 16:23:30 GMT -5
Higher tariffs equal higher prices on goods , throwing logs on the inflation fire. That isnt how it works.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 16:52:25 GMT -5
Once women get past the losing of abortion rights, this little tidbit should really motivate them to vote for the ticket with a rapist at the top.
I'm told the little ladies love this sort of thing.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 16, 2024 17:43:36 GMT -5
J.D. Vance, winner of Donald Trump’s The Apprentice-style Veepstakes contest, told a group of young conservatives that they should listen to “nonconventional” people like conspiracist Alex Jones in a candid closed-door speech in 2021. “But if you listen to Alex Jones every day, you would believe that a transnational financial elite controls things in our country,” Vance pivoted to say. “That they hate our society, and, oh, by the way, a lot of them are probably sex perverts too.” "Jones, the owner of the far-right Infowars site, has declared multiple bankruptcies over the years to avoid paying $1.1 billion in damages owed to the victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre after a court found him guilty of defamation. " "Vance reportedly went on to tell the attendees that Jones’ view of society is much more accurate than Maddow’s, revealing just how deep his conservatism runs when in private. " www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-vp-pick-jd-vance-hails-conspiracy-theorists-alex-jones-a-truth-teller/ar-BB1q6ieO?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=u531&cvid=ab4bb631520a4dc3af9dad7df76661aa&ei=15
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 17:48:47 GMT -5
Once women get past the losing of abortion rights, this little tidbit should really motivate them to vote for the ticket with a rapist at the top. I'm told the little ladies love this sort of thing. My wife thinks is awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 17:49:28 GMT -5
And Biden is the ultimate racist: “I don’t want my children to grow up in a racial jungle” when he FOUGHT BUSSING along with his KKK fellow politicians.
Ask Kamala, she called him out on it during their presidential debates.
I guess you leftists are trying to forget that aren’t you.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 17:50:34 GMT -5
Once women get past the losing of abortion rights, this little tidbit should really motivate them to vote for the ticket with a rapist at the top. I'm told the little ladies love this sort of thing. My wife thinks is awesome. Good for her. I'm sure she's a lovely woman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 17:51:21 GMT -5
Once women get past the losing of abortion rights, this little tidbit should really motivate them to vote for the ticket with a rapist at the top. I'm told the little ladies love this sort of thing. My wife thinks is awesome. Any good person would think saving babies lives is great. I just don’t understand how people can support the murder of unborn children for convenience.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 16, 2024 17:51:35 GMT -5
And Biden is the ultimate racist: “I don’t want my children to grow up in a racial jungle” when he FOUGHT BUSSING along with his KKK fellow politicians. Ask Kamala, she called him out on it during their presidential debates. I guess you leftists are trying to forget that aren’t you. Its who they are... its acceptable
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 17:57:52 GMT -5
Like I said, I'm very happy with the Vance selection. I was afraid he was going to pick someone that would help with women, independents, and moderates.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 18:00:46 GMT -5
My wife thinks is awesome. Good for her. I'm sure she's a lovely woman. She is. And vastly morally superior to mothers who murder their own children so they can keep on hawk tuaing random men at the club. For every woman that’s fanatically devoted to having the legal ability to end the lives of their babies inside of them, you don’t realize that there’s at least another woman that is completely disgusted that a mother would happily kill their child, that innocent being who is supposed to have no greater love than the love of their mother, for convenience.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:02:14 GMT -5
Good for her. I'm sure she's a lovely woman. She is. And vastly morally superior to mothers who murder their own children so they can keep on hawk tuaing random men at the club. For every woman that’s fanatically devoted to having the legal ability to end the lives of their babies inside of them, you don’t realize that there’s at least another woman that is completely disgusted that a mother would happily kill their child, that innocent being who is supposed to have no greater love than the love of their mother, for convenience. Statistically speaking, that is simply not true.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 18:05:05 GMT -5
Good for her. I'm sure she's a lovely woman. She is. And vastly morally superior to mothers who murder their own children so they can keep on hawk tuaing random men at the club. For every woman that’s fanatically devoted to having the legal ability to end the lives of their babies inside of them, you don’t realize that there’s at least another woman that is completely disgusted that a mother would happily kill their child, that innocent being who is supposed to have no greater love than the love of their mother, for convenience. Morally superior? According to whom? You? Your bible, that is silent on the topic? Please, save your self-righteous moral superiority for someone whose morals are the same as yours, then judge away....even though I seem to recall a certain someone told you not to do those sorts of things.
Moving on, are you seriously suggesting that women are split 50-50 on the abortion issue? If so, I've got some news for you, and I don't think you are going to like it.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 18:12:26 GMT -5
My wife thinks is awesome. Any good person would think saving babies lives is great. I just don’t understand how people can support the murder of unborn children for convenience. Who the fuck are you to judge a person good (or evil)?
If you don't understand, perhaps you might ask someone who has had an abortion instead of your repeated bullshit disbelief. You would learn a lot, perhaps including abortions are done for all sorts of reasons other than, as you put it, for convenience.
Can I borrow some salt?
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 18:17:00 GMT -5
She is. And vastly morally superior to mothers who murder their own children so they can keep on hawk tuaing random men at the club. For every woman that’s fanatically devoted to having the legal ability to end the lives of their babies inside of them, you don’t realize that there’s at least another woman that is completely disgusted that a mother would happily kill their child, that innocent being who is supposed to have no greater love than the love of their mother, for convenience. Morally superior? According to whom? You? Your bible, that is silent on the topic? Please, save your self-righteousness moral superiority for someone whose morals are the same as yours, then judge away....even though I seem to recall a certain someone told you not to do those sorts of things.
Moving on, are you seriously suggesting that women are split 50-50 on the abortion issue? If so, I've got some news for you, and I don't think you are going to like it.
I know that Certain Someone personally. You do not. His Spirit actually lives inside of me. I am a vastly superior arbiter of His words than you are. Abortion on demand for convenience sake is absolutely disgusting. The equivlent of the ancient practices of sacrificing children to demons to try to influence crop fertility and rainfall. A practice that Certain Someone found so morally repugnant that He sanctioned genocide against a culture to punish them for it.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:18:49 GMT -5
Morally superior? According to whom? You? Your bible, that is silent on the topic? Please, save your self-righteousness moral superiority for someone whose morals are the same as yours, then judge away....even though I seem to recall a certain someone told you not to do those sorts of things.
Moving on, are you seriously suggesting that women are split 50-50 on the abortion issue? If so, I've got some news for you, and I don't think you are going to like it.
I know that Certain Someone personally. You do not. His Spirit actually lives inside of me. I am a vastly superior arbiter of His words than you are. Abortion on demand for convenience sake is absolutely disgusting. The equivlent of the ancient practices of sacrificing children to demons to try to influence crop fertility and rainfall. A practice that Certain Someone found so morally repugnant that He sanctioned genocide against a culture to punish them for it. From your keyboard to a GOP bumper sticker and ad campaign.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 18:21:00 GMT -5
I know that Certain Someone personally. You do not. His Spirit actually lives inside of me. I am a vastly superior arbiter of His words than you are. Abortion on demand for convenience sake is absolutely disgusting. The equivlent of the ancient practices of sacrificing children to demons to try to influence crop fertility and rainfall. A practice that Certain Someone found so morally repugnant that He sanctioned genocide against a culture to punish them for it. From your keyboard to a GOP bumper sticker and ad campaign. The political optics are irrelevant to me. I’m not running for office in Canaan or Carthage. What the baby sacrificers think of my condemnation doesn’t concern me beyond their unwillingness to hear it.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 16, 2024 18:28:01 GMT -5
From your keyboard to a GOP bumper sticker and ad campaign. The political optics are irrelevant to me. I’m not running for office in Canaan or Carthage. What the baby sacrificers think of my condemnation doesn’t concern me beyond their unwillingness to hear it. That's fine, and your right. Bully for you. But, don't then, disingenuously, pretend that your views are shared by more people than they are in an election lead up. Which is the context here.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 16, 2024 18:40:24 GMT -5
The political optics are irrelevant to me. I’m not running for office in Canaan or Carthage. What the baby sacrificers think of my condemnation doesn’t concern me beyond their unwillingness to hear it. That's fine, and your right. Bully for you. But, don't then, disingenuously, pretend that your views are shared by more people than they are in an election lead up. Which is the context here. They’re shared by a lot. More than I think you believe.
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