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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 9, 2024 12:28:17 GMT -5
An article in Forbes, and other sources, prompted this video from an attorney in Michigan.
The public stays in the dark since private companies are not subject to the same rules as the police.
It appears that huge swaths of the country are being monitored 24/7/365 .
Kaiser-Permanente, a huge health care company, also shares videos.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 9, 2024 13:31:34 GMT -5
There's cameras everywhere and getting away with shit has become harder and harder.
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Post by mackeralsnatcher on Jul 9, 2024 13:34:55 GMT -5
If ya aint doing anything wrong, ya got no worries. Big brother has been watching and monitoring you for a long time. deal with it or go off grid  |
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 9, 2024 13:56:34 GMT -5
If ya aint doing anything wrong, ya got no worries. Big brother has been watching and monitoring you for a long time. deal with it or go off grid Honestly that's the only way to get away from it all. |
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Post by mackeralsnatcher on Jul 9, 2024 14:15:42 GMT -5
I just ran up to Publix to pick up a couple of things.
How many cameras do you think recorded me in my three mile trip?
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 9, 2024 14:16:00 GMT -5
Better not take your phone off the grid with you.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 9, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5
The first thing you do when running is to throw your phone in the back of south bound truck before heading north.  |
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Post by tampaspicer on Jul 9, 2024 15:10:39 GMT -5
I just ran up to Publix to pick up a couple of things. How many cameras do you think recorded me in my three mile trip? Depends on how many homes you passed with cameras LOL |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 9, 2024 15:27:24 GMT -5
I hafta wonder if there is such a thing as "off grid" anymore in the US. I believe that in MOST cases, you can be located if THEY really want to find you. MOST of us simply aren't savvy enough to disappear for long if we had to in this age.
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Post by mapper on Jul 9, 2024 15:37:39 GMT -5
I think some of the "reasonable expectations of privacy" will be challenged as AI gets more invasive. Geolocation on phones, conversations, telematics on vehicles, purchase and financial histories and categories, drones, low level satellite, etc.. phone apps recordi g location, acceleration rate increase and decrease, speed, etc.. You can make a easy case against anyone with all that data. Then public stuff that folks put out on social networks and forums, pictures, hobbies, etc.. Here is some food for thought as well as referenced case law. Reasonable expectation of privacy |
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Post by cadman on Jul 9, 2024 16:04:06 GMT -5
I remember a bank near one of my stores got robbed several years back. The guy ran away on foot. My outside cameras caught the guy running into a neighborhood. Several doorbell cameras tracked him to his car where he had parked it
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 9, 2024 16:26:42 GMT -5
The worst neighborhoods in Chicago had “gunshot” cameras and listening stations installed.
Guess what? The residents complained about the intrusion of their privacy and demanded that they be removed. I guess 100 shot and 19 killed over a holiday weekend is not enough and is very acceptable to them.
Crazy shit for sure.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 9, 2024 20:26:25 GMT -5
The worst neighborhoods in Chicago had “gunshot” cameras and listening stations installed. Guess what? The residents complained about the intrusion of their privacy and demanded that they be removed. I guess 100 shot and 19 killed over a holiday weekend is not enough and is very acceptable to them. Crazy shit for sure. Quite crazy ... The mental health aspect is always on the back-burner. It's much too hot an issue, and nobody wants to touch it. ( It doesn't help that fixes are very expensive in both time & money. ) There's one comparatively quick fix ... it's called birth control. Forget the hogwash about "single parent families" being just fine. It starts before birth! Stress hormones in the mother affect the fetus. Stress hormones during the first few years compound the damage. When left untreated, you develop a population high in pathology. ( Not to mention learning disorders that leave them barely literate. ) In my metropolitan area, the Black out-of-wedlock birth rate is 75%. Chicago might be worse, or not, but the same science applies. Is there another way around the problem? At this point, I don't feel the need to really care. It's out of my hands. On the bright side, we do have concealed carry for all. ( and open carry if I ever feel the need ) |
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Post by richm on Jul 10, 2024 4:34:27 GMT -5
Google faraday bag for your phone if you want to carry it but not be tracked. At least my phone dont work and wife cant find me when i use one.
Cameras are everywhere.
Facial recognition.
Plate readers are everywhere.
They are installing animal sensors in ONF. Will trigger blinky lights to alert drivers theres a deer or bear or whatever in the road.
They also have motion & heat pedestrian sensors at crossings in some areas.
Not much privacy anymore. Those days are behind us.
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Post by bswiv on Jul 10, 2024 5:45:04 GMT -5
And yet......so often.....when the a "suspect" is on the loose and the public is informed, and presumably warned and maybe even expected to help, it's the norm that no video is available and what is available is of scant use.
Those of us doing nothing particularly annoying to our fellow humans and generally keeping it between the lines are easy to watch......but then there is really nothing worth watching. The ones who need watching......they are harder, by design.
And a serious question.......
Is there not a point at which the system tracking and collecting and collating and spreadsheeting and all the rest, isn't there a point where the information becomes a burden, a white noise of not as much use as those collecting hope?
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