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Post by richm on Jul 10, 2024 6:10:41 GMT -5
And yet......so often.....when the a "suspect" is on the loose and the public is informed, and presumably warned and maybe even expected to help, it's the norm that no video is available and what is available is of scant use. Those of us doing nothing particularly annoying to our fellow humans and generally keeping it between the lines are easy to watch......but then there is really nothing worth watching. The ones who need watching......they are harder, by design. And a serious question....... Is there not a point at which the system tracking and collecting and collating and spreadsheeting and all the rest, isn't there a point where the information becomes a burden, a white noise of not as much use as those collecting hope? We have the computers now that can handle anything you want to throw at them and 'bots to manage them. If those of us who go into publix and look up at the camera, give em a good look - we feel watched and monitored - controlled. Those who don't care aren't feeling controlled. Remember how "they" turned off all the facial recognition for the summer of love when they burned those cities? WTF? It was to protect the not-so-innocent and let em run loose like animals.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 10, 2024 7:16:14 GMT -5
With all that surveillance things still happen that should be deterred and criminals get away with their crimes
At our stadium a few years ago I was building a soccer field in the winter. We had a loader/ backhoe stolen. They fired it up and drove it away. They got a video of the machine going through a red light three miles away but couldn’t track it further.
They then came back a week later and tried to get another newer machine. A man was plowing snow around the stadium and noticed the newer machine sitting on the construction site running. He must have scared the off! Criminals are emboldened by the lack of punishment nowadays.
All of our equipment and vehicles now have locating devices installed on them.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 10, 2024 8:08:05 GMT -5
Now throw in those air tags. George Orwell could never have dreamed this crap up.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 10, 2024 8:23:19 GMT -5
Now throw in those air tags. George Orwell could never have dreamed this crap up. I have about 20 AirTags going. Dogs, vehicles, wallet, keys and etc. They are great!
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Post by mapper on Jul 10, 2024 9:52:17 GMT -5
ravelcoA solution for things walking off..
Look at that one, I have it in my truck. Can be used on construction equipment, semis, cars, trucks, etc.. It's not cheap, for what it is. The installer makes all the difference.
If on a vehicle you will lose the remote start function. But the vehicle will be there unless it is towed.
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Post by gogittum on Jul 10, 2024 10:09:20 GMT -5
I hafta wonder if there is such a thing as "off grid" anymore in the US. I believe that in MOST cases, you can be located if THEY really want to find you. MOST of us simply aren't savvy enough to disappear for long if we had to in this age. I'm not all that sophisticated, but can't see how it'd be possible to "run away" now. Seems like everything is tied into computers now and getting more and more integrated into multiple systems. An easy example is medical care. Doctors are finally getting smart and going to broad reach programs that let them share info about patients and also making that info available to the patients. I get/got sick of having to fill out multiple pages of the same b.s. whenever I was referred to a new doctor. Seldom hits anymore. I carry $20 - $30 in my pocket folder now (haven't used a fat wallet for some time now) JIC, but rarely use it, even for small purchases. "Everything" goes on the debit card. We aren't far behind England with cameras watching streets and byways. Cain't get away wif nuffin anymore.....and, for me, don't really see a need or desire to. My idea of breaking the law is to go 5 mph over the speed limit or making a rolling stop. I can't imagine being locked up in a prison....my freedom is precious and if someone wants to know where I am, fine, I'll turn on the GPS function on my phone for them.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 10, 2024 10:24:25 GMT -5
If you have nothing to hide why worry. I don’t care who knows where I am.
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Post by gandy on Jul 10, 2024 10:27:36 GMT -5
I just ran up to Publix to pick up a couple of things. How many cameras do you think recorded me in my three mile trip? 42
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Post by mapper on Jul 10, 2024 10:41:19 GMT -5
That is not the point.. If someone has your spending and what category of goods, your location, your internet site visits, any social media and forum posts and pictures, your speed traveling places, whether your vehicle was loaded or not (pictures) and what hobbies or groups you belong to, as well as georefrenced pictures and aerial pictures of your house, phone metadata, medical records, even though HIPPA is supposed to protect that. That can be put to a lot of fishing trips for probable cause of anything. Someday, I guess there won't be as many failures at stopping nefarious actors as there is now, but freedom and privacy is a slippery slope. The public trust level of investigative and enforcement agencies is not what it used to be several decades ago, AI just sped that up. As long as it Still follows "reasonable expectation of privacy" it is fine. Beyond that is a issue.
If a private company wants to give others access to their data, that is between them.. Still should have a element of choice involved.
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Post by gandy on Jul 10, 2024 10:52:49 GMT -5
Well, if it is in plain view. . . .then - if this then that comes into play.
Plain view doctrine is a rule of criminal procedure which allows an officer to seize evidence of a crime without a warrant when the evidence is clearly visible. This doctrine acts as an exception to the Fourth Amendment's right to be free from searches without a warrant.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 10, 2024 11:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by gardawg on Jul 10, 2024 12:17:37 GMT -5
I'm a STAR !!!
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Post by johngalt on Jul 10, 2024 12:55:18 GMT -5
Noticed cyclist was in a couple of those clips. 😂
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Post by gandy on Jul 11, 2024 8:21:58 GMT -5
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