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Post by biminitwisted on May 7, 2024 11:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by johngalt on May 7, 2024 12:32:35 GMT -5
Who had a "Remain in Mexico" policy and who cancelled it? One guy cancelled the deal for funding and better enforcement, and killed any chance of mitigating the problem. Just ask the border patrol union who's to blame for that. They even admitted that they killed the deal as to not give the other guy a win. Would you like to see the video? Stop with the “better enforcement” bullshit. There are already plenty of laws on the books that apply to immigration. You and others do not want them to be enforced. And yes, a lot of countries are emptying out their prisons and sending them north. Why wouldn’t they? They know that America is stupid enough to take them.
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Post by cyclist on May 7, 2024 12:51:36 GMT -5
This guys a democrat but there is truth in what he says. connolly.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=4691MYTH: The Biden administration has implemented an “open border” policy that has created chaos at our border with Mexico. TRUTH: President Biden inherited an immigration system in tatters. The Trump administration cut off legal pathways to citizenship, leaving would-be migrants with fewer lawful methods of entering the country. They cut funding to Central American countries in 2019 as they splurged on an ineffective, costly wall. It was the Trump administration that tightened sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua, exacerbating the macroeconomic crises that have led hundreds of thousands to flee and arrive at the southern border. When they pulled the rug out from various, essential assistance programs, they made the problem worse.But our immigration system has been broken for many decades — long before Joe Biden or Donald Trump took the oath of office. Time and again, Democrats have proposed solutions to fix the immigration system in a reasonable, humane way. And time and again, Republicans have opposed these efforts at every turn.One might recall that in 2013, House Republicans thwarted comprehensive immigration reform after an agreement was reached in the Senate. Many of those same House Republicans who prevented that legislation from passing are now intent on blaming irregular migration, an issue our country has dealt with for over a century, solely on the Biden administration.There’s only one problem with their affinity for blaming Democrats — it doesn’t hold up to basic scrutiny. In fact, between December 2022 and January 2023, the Biden-Harris administration halved the number of encounters at the border and reduced the number of Cuban, Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, and Haitian migrants by 97 percent.MYTH: The Biden administration has ignored the border and is refusing to commit proper resources to it. TRUTH: The idea that Democrats have ignored the situation at the border and refused to commit resources to solving it is another outright lie. In reality, the Biden-Harris administration and congressional Democrats have surged record levels of funding to the border. The FY23 government funding package that President Biden signed into law provided Border Patrol with $7.153 billion — a 17 percent increase from the year before. Additionally, the funding package provided $65 million for 300 new Border Patrol agents, $60 million for 125 new personnel at points of entry; and $230 million for technology like autonomous surveillance towers.
House Republicans voted against this historic funding.MYTH: Biden’s “open border” policies allow undocumented immigrants to flood the country with deadly fentanyl. TRUTH: Republicans continue to blame vulnerable migrants fleeing violence, hunger, and natural disasters for illicit drug smuggling, but facts are stubborn things. Over 90 percent of fentanyl, and over 80 percent of total illegal narcotics, arrive at legal points of entry—not between them—and are smuggled largely by Americans—not undocumented migrants. In fact, migrants accounted for less than 9 percent of fentanyl trafficking convictions in FY 21, compared to more than 86 percent for American citizens. In December 2022, CBP seized 4,500 pounds of fentanyl, the largest amount ever recorded. Incredibly, just five of those 4,500 pounds were seized at the border by U.S. Border Patrol. Republicans are focused on 1 percent of the problem, 100 percent of the time. MYTH: Biden’s “open border” policies have allowed criminals and terrorists to pour over the southern border unchecked, contributing to a spike in crime in America. TRUTH: Study after study has shown that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S. citizens. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Alternatives to Detention Program provides a strong example: The latest data from ICE released on Feb. 3, 2023, demonstrated 99.4 percent of immigrants monitored on ICE’s Alternatives to Detention Program attended their court hearings compared to the .6 percent which failed to attend their hearing. Not all undocumented immigrants are tracked through this program, but immigrants, when paroled into the United States, overwhelmingly are lawful individuals that attend their court hearings. An American Immigration Council report found that over the past 11 years, an overwhelming 83 percent of immigrants attended their immigration court hearings, and those who failed to appear in court often did not receive notice or faced hardship in getting to court. Republicans who assert the Biden administration is releasing countless dangerous migrants into the country are not only trafficking in xenophobic, anti-immigrant sentiment, but they are also peddling lies that are categorically false. The situation at the border demands serious policy solutions that provide a pathway to citizenship for DACA recipients; address the root causes of migration like repression, political instability, violence, hunger, and lack of economic opportunity; and fix our own broken immigration system.
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Post by richm on May 7, 2024 13:18:17 GMT -5
If only there had been a bipartisan proposal on the table to further fund border enforcement. Who can even remember what single person killed that? Trump humpers owns it now. It is a United Nations issue that popped up during Trump and he kept it limited. Biden embraced it, deleted all Trumps rules, and let more than 10 million in. Bipartisan my ass. It is some kind of global thing. I always knew that in order to take the US down, they had to make the US like all the 3rd world places. Never ever imagined that they'd import the 3rd world. Joe owns this, he's got a tattoo of this on his ass. If anyone votes for him, they are voting for this shit. You might hate Trump but he didn't make this. The immigration system in tatters! LoL! I about spit my doughnut on the keyboard. We had no issues and suddenly there is a fukking travel route for all undesirables to get to US and to be let in, your favor from the United Nations. Same group who wants you disarmed - there is some kind of ruling Obama signed i think. The US is in for a world of hurt and well, here we are.
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Post by nuevowavo on May 7, 2024 13:37:38 GMT -5
What significant event happened in our country in 2020 that might have spiked border crossings? Help me out, I cant quite remember..... View Attachment
Biden didn't become President until 2021, if that's what you're getting at.
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Post by Tarponator on May 7, 2024 14:28:36 GMT -5
If only there had been a bipartisan proposal on the table to further fund border enforcement. Who can even remember what single person killed that? Trump humpers owns it now. It is a United Nations issue that popped up during Trump and he kept it limited. Biden embraced it, deleted all Trumps rules, and let more than 10 million in. Bipartisan my ass. It is some kind of global thing. I always knew that in order to take the US down, they had to make the US like all the 3rd world places. Never ever imagined that they'd import the 3rd world. Joe owns this, he's got a tattoo of this on his ass. If anyone votes for him, they are voting for this shit. You might hate Trump but he didn't make this. The immigration system in tatters! LoL! I about spit my doughnut on the keyboard. We had no issues and suddenly there is a fukking travel route for all undesirables to get to US and to be let in, your favor from the United Nations. Same group who wants you disarmed - there is some kind of ruling Obama signed i think. The US is in for a world of hurt and well, here we are. If you thought US immigration law/enforcement had "no issues" at any point in the last 30 or so years, you are woefully out of touch, blindly partisan, or both.
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Post by pinman on May 7, 2024 18:00:56 GMT -5
It is a United Nations issue that popped up during Trump and he kept it limited. Biden embraced it, deleted all Trumps rules, and let more than 10 million in. Bipartisan my ass. It is some kind of global thing. I always knew that in order to take the US down, they had to make the US like all the 3rd world places. Never ever imagined that they'd import the 3rd world. Joe owns this, he's got a tattoo of this on his ass. If anyone votes for him, they are voting for this shit. You might hate Trump but he didn't make this. The immigration system in tatters! LoL! I about spit my doughnut on the keyboard. We had no issues and suddenly there is a fukking travel route for all undesirables to get to US and to be let in, your favor from the United Nations. Same group who wants you disarmed - there is some kind of ruling Obama signed i think. The US is in for a world of hurt and well, here we are. If you thought US immigration law/enforcement had "no issues" at any point in the last 30 or so years, you are woefully out of touch, blindly partisan, or both. Where did he say there were no issues in the last 30 years? Who is talking about the "last 30 years"?!?!? Why didnt you pick 10 years? 5 years? 2 years IDK? What is is about commie pukes that they constantly LIE about what was said? The fact is the border was more secure under Trump and Biden opened it up especially by cancelling the Remain in Mexico policy so we have had MORE border encounters in the last 3 years than any time in history.
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Post by pinman on May 7, 2024 18:40:11 GMT -5
What significant event happened in our country in 2020 that might have spiked border crossings? Help me out, I cant quite remember..... View Attachment
Biden didn't become President until 2021, if that's what you're getting at.
Really? Look at the graph....
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Post by richm on May 7, 2024 19:14:57 GMT -5
It is a United Nations issue that popped up during Trump and he kept it limited. Biden embraced it, deleted all Trumps rules, and let more than 10 million in. Bipartisan my ass. It is some kind of global thing. I always knew that in order to take the US down, they had to make the US like all the 3rd world places. Never ever imagined that they'd import the 3rd world. Joe owns this, he's got a tattoo of this on his ass. If anyone votes for him, they are voting for this shit. You might hate Trump but he didn't make this. The immigration system in tatters! LoL! I about spit my doughnut on the keyboard. We had no issues and suddenly there is a fukking travel route for all undesirables to get to US and to be let in, your favor from the United Nations. Same group who wants you disarmed - there is some kind of ruling Obama signed i think. The US is in for a world of hurt and well, here we are. If you thought US immigration law/enforcement had "no issues" at any point in the last 30 or so years, you are woefully out of touch, blindly partisan, or both. This is 10+ million allowed to just walk in. There is no comparison, not even close. That’s the population of the smallest 10 states combined.
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Post by Tarponator on May 7, 2024 21:10:39 GMT -5
If you thought US immigration law/enforcement had "no issues" at any point in the last 30 or so years, you are woefully out of touch, blindly partisan, or both. Where did he say there were no issues in the last 30 years? Who is talking about the "last 30 years"?!?!? Why didnt you pick 10 years? 5 years? 2 years IDK? What is is about commie pukes that they constantly LIE about what was said? The fact is the border was more secure under Trump and Biden opened it up especially by cancelling the Remain in Mexico policy so we have had MORE border encounters in the last 3 years than any time in history. Curious. I could have sworn you he said "Joe owns this".
More importantly, I didn't realize you were a communist.
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Post by johngalt on May 8, 2024 7:27:40 GMT -5
Where did he say there were no issues in the last 30 years? Who is talking about the "last 30 years"?!?!? Why didnt you pick 10 years? 5 years? 2 years IDK? What is is about commie pukes that they constantly LIE about what was said? The fact is the border was more secure under Trump and Biden opened it up especially by cancelling the Remain in Mexico policy so we have had MORE border encounters in the last 3 years than any time in history. Curious. I could have sworn you said "Joe owns this".
More importantly, I didn't realize you were a communist.
Tell us why you think a open border and flooding the country with illegals is beneficial to our country and economy?
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Post by pinman on May 8, 2024 7:39:37 GMT -5
Where did he say there were no issues in the last 30 years? Who is talking about the "last 30 years"?!?!? Why didnt you pick 10 years? 5 years? 2 years IDK? What is is about commie pukes that they constantly LIE about what was said? The fact is the border was more secure under Trump and Biden opened it up especially by cancelling the Remain in Mexico policy so we have had MORE border encounters in the last 3 years than any time in history. Curious. I could have sworn you said "Joe owns this".
More importantly, I didn't realize you were a communist.
Is this another one of your poorly formed sentences where we are supposed to know what you are saying because WTH are you talking about? Duh...
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Post by throttle on May 8, 2024 8:25:31 GMT -5
If only there had been a bipartisan proposal on the table to further fund border enforcement. Who can even remember what single person killed that? Trump humpers owns it now. Yeah I'm sure that we can trust the Biden misadministration to actually enforce immigration laws instead of facilitating ever more illegal entries into the country if only we gave them just a bit more money to work with. Guffaw...
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Post by Tarponator on May 8, 2024 13:35:23 GMT -5
Curious. I could have sworn you said "Joe owns this".
More importantly, I didn't realize you were a communist.
Tell us why you think a open border and flooding the country with illegals is beneficial to our country and economy? Although there are undoubtedly some benefits with millions of additional consumers and taxpayers....there are plenty of problems too.
However there is no open border, and this country has been "flooded with" immigrants (illegal or otherwise) for its entire history.
What this country really needs is pragmatic immigration policy reform rather than using this issue as a pawn in a larger political game (as evidenced by the partisan arguments and language in this thread) with no effective solutions even on the table.
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Post by Tarponator on May 8, 2024 13:43:37 GMT -5
If you thought US immigration law/enforcement had "no issues" at any point in the last 30 or so years, you are woefully out of touch, blindly partisan, or both. Where did he say there were no issues in the last 30 years? Who is talking about the "last 30 years"?!?!? Why didnt you pick 10 years? 5 years? 2 years IDK? What is is about commie pukes that they constantly LIE about what was said? The fact is the border was more secure under Trump and Biden opened it up especially by cancelling the Remain in Mexico policy so we have had MORE border encounters in the last 3 years than any time in history. To answer your first question: He said, "We had no issues and suddenly there is a fukking travel route for all undesirables[.]"
For the rest of your questions: I picked 30 years arbitrarily because the facts of the matter is there have been issues for quite some time -- before Biden and even before Trump.
To suggest otherwise, as he did, is painting a longstanding issue as some sort of recent development -- which it is not.
I hope this helps clear things up for you.
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