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Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 11:35:17 GMT -5
EVs are not yet practical. It’s just that simple. For about 6% of the population.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Apr 16, 2024 11:46:19 GMT -5
Is that 6% for the entire population or 6% of the driving population?
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Post by meateater on Apr 16, 2024 11:55:08 GMT -5
So which one is the truth... above or below... take your pick. You say your range is 250 based on normal usage... then you say you never go below 60% on the battery so that makes each stop only 100miles. Then you say you only fill up 2 times in a 600 mile drive. That is 200 miles per segment but that wouldnt be 60%
Which charger are you using and why recharge at 60%? No one stops for gas with over half a tank. Range anxiety?
Usually stop to stretch our legs. Like to reach our destination with at least a 2/3 charge so that we don't have to see a charger for another week of local driving. Use the Tesla Super Chargers, range depends on driving habits and accessories being used. And last, don't really care what you speculate as to anything. We love the car and are extremely satisfied with it's everything. Now go ahead and post something negative. my daughter drove thru bout a foot of water in dicks sporting goods parking lot last year, 3000.00 in repairs on her tesla for electrical and battery repairs. i told her she got what she deserved for shopping at dicks.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 11:56:41 GMT -5
Is that 6% for the entire population or 6% of the driving population? Something like 93% of the population drives less than 30-40 miles a day. EV makes sense.
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Post by mapper on Apr 16, 2024 12:57:54 GMT -5
Well it depends on how you do the average, new math and all that statistical analysis.
If you average it out based on daily I might be borderline in that 93% a trip to town and back is 40 miles give or take. If you base it on how I actually use my vehicles hauling, towing, trips, etc I will be in that 6% So I guess that puts me in that 1% of other users.
Just because it works for some uses does not mean it will work for all uses.
If it works for you, great.
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Post by luapnor on Apr 16, 2024 13:08:06 GMT -5
Is that 6% for the entire population or 6% of the driving population? Something like 93% of the population drives less than 30-40 miles a day. EV makes sense. That's Europe...they drive even less due to public transit available...but even they are dumping EVs... Wonder why? Reality maybe??
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Post by meateater on Apr 16, 2024 13:13:29 GMT -5
i consider myself pretty handy when it comes to car/truck repairs, unless its a computer problem i can usually figure it out and up to bout 5 years ago did all general repairs and maintenance , still when im traveling, in the middle of nowhere hunting or just going to the pub i like knowing i can figure out most problems. with a ev all i would need to know is the tow trucks phone number and a mechanics address. not for me but i got no problem with them.
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Post by misterjr on Apr 16, 2024 13:17:56 GMT -5
i consider myself pretty handy when it comes to car/truck repairs, unless its a computer problem i can usually figure it out and up to bout 5 years ago did all general repairs and maintenance , still when im traveling, in the middle of nowhere hunting or just going to the pub i like knowing i can figure out most problems. with a ev all i would need to know is the tow trucks phone number and a mechanics address. not for me but i got no problem with them. Try buying an automobile that won't break down.
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Post by luapnor on Apr 16, 2024 13:18:03 GMT -5
I couldn't care less how somebody spends their money, but I do have a problem with government influencing technology direction using subsidies. It always, always ends in malinvestment.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 13:27:48 GMT -5
Something like 93% of the population drives less than 30-40 miles a day. EV makes sense. That's Europe...they drive even less due to public transit available...but even they are dumping EVs... Wonder why? Reality maybe?? No, it's the US and the daily distance is getting shorter. Basically what this says, is that the average person would have no issues with an EV and a typical 2-car family should own one if they want to save money.
This is important as the Chinese are perfecting the inexpensive long range EV, which will be at the expense of US car manufacturers.
Why, cause EVs are the future over ICE with the long=term future probably being a hydrogen EV hybrid.
THE AVERAGE DRIVER Spends 55 minutes a day behind the wheel Drives 29 miles a day
Daily travel miles per driver - United States 2001 to 2017 Published by Mathilde Carlier , Aug 4, 2021 This statistic shows the average number of miles driven per day in the United States per driver between 2001 and 2017. On average, American drivers today are moving their vehicles considerably less than they were sixteen years ago, but they still totaled an average of 25.9 miles per day and per driver in 2017. The average driver also made more trips in 2001 than in 2017, when 2.7 daily vehicle trips per driver with an average length of 9.6 miles per trip were recorded. In 2001, the average driver made 3.4 trips with an average of 9.9 miles.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 13:28:24 GMT -5
I couldn't care less how somebody spends their money, but I do have a problem with government influencing technology direction using subsidies. It always, always ends in malinvestment. Oil, coal, gas, the most heavily subsidized fuels ever.
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Post by meateater on Apr 16, 2024 13:28:32 GMT -5
i consider myself pretty handy when it comes to car/truck repairs, unless its a computer problem i can usually figure it out and up to bout 5 years ago did all general repairs and maintenance , still when im traveling, in the middle of nowhere hunting or just going to the pub i like knowing i can figure out most problems. with a ev all i would need to know is the tow trucks phone number and a mechanics address. not for me but i got no problem with them. Try buying an automobile that won't break down. they all break down i just like knowing how to fix it , most times.
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Post by tonyroma on Apr 16, 2024 13:31:14 GMT -5
i consider myself pretty handy when it comes to car/truck repairs, unless its a computer problem i can usually figure it out and up to bout 5 years ago did all general repairs and maintenance , still when im traveling, in the middle of nowhere hunting or just going to the pub i like knowing i can figure out most problems. with a ev all i would need to know is the tow trucks phone number and a mechanics address. not for me but i got no problem with them. Yup, you don’t need a mechanic , you need tech support.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 16, 2024 13:34:28 GMT -5
An AC electric motor is one of the most reliable pieces of moving machinery that humans have ever created. They almost never fail as long as they aren't fed electricity that's outside the design specification (which a car of course would never allow). Nothing is impossible, but I would classify electric motor failure as "extremely unlikely."
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Post by misterjr on Apr 16, 2024 14:03:07 GMT -5
Try buying an automobile that won't break down. they all break down i just like knowing how to fix it , most times. I have not had a breakdown in over 30 years.
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