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Post by cyclist on Jun 21, 2024 10:32:01 GMT -5
They fail to mention how much “Fossil Fuels “ it takes to produce these biofuels. I hauled a load(6200 gallons) of used cooking oil from Ocala to Houston to a refinery. I happened to burn diesel fuel in my truck. 😉 Turning seed to cooking oil .. growing seed ... errything in-between. True cost fight only counts towards the negative when it's something Cyclist doesn't like. Way less carbon use and emissions, cradle to grave, with biofuels versus fossil fuels. Do your research, talking out of your ass isn't doing anyone any good.
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 21, 2024 13:37:48 GMT -5
Turning seed to cooking oil .. growing seed ... errything in-between. True cost fight only counts towards the negative when it's something Cyclist doesn't like. Way less carbon use and emissions, cradle to grave, with biofuels versus fossil fuels. Do your research, talking out of your ass isn't doing anyone any good. Biofuels are far more harmful than Dino diesel. Yet another reason your should be in prison.
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Post by johngalt on Jun 21, 2024 13:42:20 GMT -5
Turning seed to cooking oil .. growing seed ... errything in-between. True cost fight only counts towards the negative when it's something Cyclist doesn't like. Way less carbon use and emissions, cradle to grave, with biofuels versus fossil fuels. Do your research, talking out of your ass isn't doing anyone any good. Unfortunately for you there is no way biofuels can replace diesel. The numbers don’t lie.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 21, 2024 17:11:50 GMT -5
Way less carbon use and emissions, cradle to grave, with biofuels versus fossil fuels. Do your research, talking out of your ass isn't doing anyone any good. Biofuels are far more harmful than Dino diesel. Yet another reason your should be in prison. Care to elaborate with some facts? Waster restaurant oil used for biodiesel is worse than fossil fuels? See guys, I can be civil sometime, even when a magaa moron lies.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 21, 2024 17:13:19 GMT -5
No such thing as fossil fuels unless you can show that plants and animals lived on Titan... which has more hydrocarbons than Earth.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 21, 2024 17:19:55 GMT -5
No such thing as fossil fuels unless you can show that plants and animals lived on Titan... which has more hydrocarbons than Earth. You think hydrocarbons are only in fossil fuels from decomposing plants and amimals? LOL
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 21, 2024 20:07:39 GMT -5
Biofuels are far more harmful than Dino diesel. Yet another reason your should be in prison. Care to elaborate with some facts? Waster restaurant oil used for biodiesel is worse than fossil fuels? See guys, I can be civil sometime, even when a magaa moron lies. Veggie oils are sourced from seed to the processor. Pretty simple. It gets delivered to a distributor, then used, then picked back up, brought to a holding area, then it gets processed. There's a lot of hands, fuel, and chemicals involved. If it was so great it would go from farm to fuel tank. That won't happen
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Post by Captj on Jun 22, 2024 5:49:41 GMT -5
Dodge just announced their 2025 Ram 1500 that will have an engine to generate a charge for their electric drive motors. 600 mile range on a 97 kwh battery and 28 gal gas tank to run the gen set (actually a v6 engine). Interesting. Should satisfy those with mileage issues.
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Post by cadman on Jun 22, 2024 8:13:35 GMT -5
Dodge just announced their 2025 Ram 1500 that will have an engine to generate a charge for their electric drive motors. 600 mile range on a 97 kwh battery and 28 gal gas tank to run the gen set (actually a v6 engine). Interesting. Should satisfy those with mileage issues. 690 mile range, 663 horsepower, 625 lbs torque, 2600 lb payload, and 14,000 lb towing capacity. Zero to 60 in 4 seconds. They call it the Ramcharger. Sounds like one bad ass truck and can be yours for about $70,000. I saw a video on one model and it had some pretty cool features. If I win the lottery, I will add it to the list of vehicles I will buy.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 22, 2024 8:17:50 GMT -5
It's not an EV. 48% of EV owners won't buy EV again.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 22, 2024 8:30:23 GMT -5
It's not an EV. 48% of EV owners won't buy EV again. 20% world-wide...not as many as gas drivers switching to ev.
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Post by cadman on Jun 22, 2024 10:23:52 GMT -5
It's not an EV. 48% of EV owners won't buy EV again. 20% world-wide...not as many as gas drivers switching to ev. He's wrong about the U.S. too, but don't let that surprise you, he is wrong about everything. The problem with the surveys is some don't ask if you are selling your EV to buy an ICE. Many are two car households and have an EV for around town and an ICE for trips and towing and such. Most Tesla and luxury EV owners are very loyal and will replace the EV with another EV. 70% of those owners say they will get another EV. Also, the EV owners have not said they won't buy an EV again. There is a reason luapnor never sources any of his claims he posts. The surveys, depending on the questions asked, is all over the place, from 30% to 48% that say their next purchase would be an ICE vehicle, but even at 48%, that means the majority of EV owners would get a second EV. Hybrids like the Ramcharger above are becoming more popular and may be the vehicle of the future for many.
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Post by Captj on Jun 23, 2024 5:21:42 GMT -5
I will replace my ICE vehicles with EV's when they solve the tow issue. I need an 8000# capacity tow vehicle. The RamCharger is an option, but I think they're going to introduce more extended range vehicles in the near future. Prices will drop.
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Post by meateater on Jun 23, 2024 10:22:26 GMT -5
why will the prices drop, have we made some kinda deal with china i didnt read about.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 23, 2024 10:49:22 GMT -5
why will the prices drop, have we made some kinda deal with china i didnt read about. just like all tech, the prices drop the longer it’s around. Remember how expensive a 60inch flat screen TV used to be.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 23, 2024 14:02:43 GMT -5
why will the prices drop, have we made some kinda deal with china i didnt read about. just like all tech, the prices drop the longer it’s around. Remember how expensive a 60inch flat screen TV used to be. Did the government make flat screens cheaper for rich guys at the expense of the working class?
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 23, 2024 14:28:34 GMT -5
No
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Post by conchydong on Jun 23, 2024 14:52:19 GMT -5
why will the prices drop, have we made some kinda deal with china i didnt read about. just like all tech, the prices drop the longer it’s around. Remember how expensive a 60inch flat screen TV used to be. And how many of those 60” TVs are made in America? Kinda goes back to what meateater was saying about China.
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Post by olmucky on Jun 27, 2024 5:03:43 GMT -5
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 27, 2024 5:49:38 GMT -5
Which makes the chart an eye opener. There is panic developing in the auto world over the investment in EV manufacturing. These SOBs are panicking their ass off. LOL "Volkswagen announced it intends to work with Rivian to create “next generation software-defined vehicle (SDV) architectures” to be used in both companies’ future EVs. The joint venture will use Rivian’s “zonal hardware design” and platform as the foundation of future vehicles, as well as Rivian’s electrical architecture expertise for the vehicles. Rivian will license its existing IP rights to the joint venture." "In exchange, Volkswagen will invest an initial $1 billion in Rivian through an “unsecured convertible note that will convert into Rivian’s common stock,” with up to $4 billion in additional investment staged through 2026 for a total infusion of $5 billion." "Irving, Calif.-based Rivian's shares closed up 23.2% on Wednesday." finance.yahoo.com/news/rivian-stock-soars-as-volkswagen-says-it-will-invest-up-to-5-billion-in-new-joint-venture-210921047.html
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Post by olmucky on Jun 27, 2024 7:16:50 GMT -5
Someone’s post just magically disappeared
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 27, 2024 7:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by mapper on Jun 27, 2024 8:28:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really agree with the methodology of the study. I'll call bullshit on it. So bullshit in, bullshit out.
A review of 1 million other publicly posted reviews of charging stations.
Somehow that just because some Harvard dude with a degree in climate studies and writes for a global business arm gives it legitimacy? And he gets paid big bucks for this supposed data driven study?
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Post by cyclist on Jun 27, 2024 9:21:31 GMT -5
Certainly on the fly road trip charging is a super crucial issue that is getting figured out. But consider that many if not most EVs are second cars and used for local commuting, the road trip charging is kinda a non-issue. My friends top off their batteries a couple of times a week at home. That being said, everyone I know that has an EV uses them on road trips more than their gasser. Because they are nice to drive, fun, cheap and more eco. Most trips they take are not aimlessly wandering around podunck USA looking for places without a charger, they are to visit family, friends, and Airbandb destinations. Almost all along major highways, they use the tesla app. which is pretty stellar and eliminates wasted stops, broken chargers, etc. They are predictable trips with easy stops near restaurants etc. and represent probably the majority of charging needs.
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Post by mapper on Jun 27, 2024 9:51:15 GMT -5
Well since there are numerous charge connections (at least 4 connection types) and not a standard like say a diameter of a gas nozzle at a pump, it seems like trying to find your way through the forest of Mirkwood watching out for spiders trying to find the one that fits. There is a lot of podunk in the US, and some quite scenic. So not everyone lives in cities, airports, and interstates and major routes. For those who find a ev meets their needs, I'm happy for them. BUT they do not meet EVRYONES needs.
I did see on the map where a fire station was listed as a charger.
Zoom out and see diffrent color pin options for that scenic wander around podunk.
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Post by gandy on Jun 27, 2024 11:59:44 GMT -5
"Well since there are numerous charge connections (at least 4 connection types) and not a standard like say a diameter of a gas nozzle at a pump, it seems like trying to find your way through the forest of Mirkwood watching out for spiders trying to find the one that fits." You say that like the WWW doesn't know where the car is, where the charging stations are and the connecters are going to be an ever changing surprise.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 27, 2024 12:18:21 GMT -5
It's always interesting when people who dont own EVs spew negative tripe and those that have hands on experience say they dont have problems using one for the purpose they purchased it for.
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Post by mapper on Jun 27, 2024 12:36:55 GMT -5
OK, evs are wonderful, solve every use and should be mandated for every application.. I can't wait until they can fly and are used in marine uses.batteries are the solution for everything.
Ferris you also forgot the ones who don't own them and spew positive vaporware..
The only opinion that matters are the owners and users of them.
The long term test on this should be good to follow,
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 27, 2024 12:38:45 GMT -5
Acting superior to the hoi pol-oi. All they are good for!
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Post by cyclist on Jun 27, 2024 13:23:57 GMT -5
OK, evs are wonderful, solve every use and should be mandated for every application.. I can't wait until they can fly and are used in marine uses.batteries are the solution for everything.
Ferris you also forgot the ones who don't own them and spew positive vaporware..
The only opinion that matters are the owners and users of them.
The long term test on this should be good to follow,
I could drive/Fly this too work, within range, plenty of space, charging no prob.
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