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Post by tropicbird on Jul 22, 2023 13:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by Captj on Jul 24, 2023 9:17:51 GMT -5
A buddy went out 20 miles off KL and caught three keepers (barely).
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Post by throttle on Jul 25, 2023 20:00:56 GMT -5
I'd love to know where in the world the mahi population is getting decimated because they're not being caught in the Keys, which is FL's first crack at migrating mahi's. Either there's a massive fleet of foreign boats taking them somewhere to the south or there's a mahi disease diminishing the population.
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Post by tropicbird on Jul 26, 2023 8:52:33 GMT -5
I think Brazil is the second biggest producer of Mahi so that could be one of the contributors if it's the same population that we get here.
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Post by olmucky on Jul 26, 2023 16:50:50 GMT -5
I read a couple years ago the Chinese had boats and were wacking them in the GS before they could migrate towards us.
I even thought the Bahamians gave them permission as well
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Post by throttle on Jul 26, 2023 18:25:27 GMT -5
I read a couple years ago the Chinese had boats and were wacking them in the GS before they could migrate towards us. I even thought the Bahamians gave them permission as well Always the Chinese... If they're not unleashing engineered bat viruses on us or bribing our president they're decimating the mahi... |
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Post by professoro on Jul 27, 2023 7:49:09 GMT -5
The mahi decline has been discussed a lot on the hull truth forum. I and most other scientists believe it is due to over fishing by us, the recreational fisherman. I know you all don't want to hear this but this one we can't blame on the Chinese.
I was out swordfishing on Saturday night, we caught a few mahi near 79 50 W south of Port Everglades. Fought a large shark for hours before releasing it.
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Post by throttle on Jul 27, 2023 20:40:56 GMT -5
The mahi decline has been discussed a lot on the hull truth forum. I and most other scientists believe it is due to over fishing by us, the recreational fisherman. I know you all don't want to hear this but this one we can't blame on the Chinese. I was out swordfishing on Saturday night, we caught a few mahi near 79 50 W south of Port Everglades. Fought a large shark for hours before releasing it. Mahi generally migrate in a clockwise circle, heading north up our coast as the season warms. Where would US recreational fishermen have intercepted them? They aren't showing up at their first US stop, the FL Keys, so the decimation is occurring elsewhere to the south. I blame foreign commercial fishing ops, whether Chinese or other... but it sure isn't us FL recreational fishermen.  |
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Post by olmucky on Jul 28, 2023 4:59:13 GMT -5
The mahi decline has been discussed a lot on the hull truth forum. I and most other scientists believe it is due to over fishing by us, the recreational fisherman. I know you all don't want to hear this but this one we can't blame on the Chinese. I was out swordfishing on Saturday night, we caught a few mahi near 79 50 W south of Port Everglades. Fought a large shark for hours before releasing it. |
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Post by professoro on Jul 28, 2023 11:41:10 GMT -5
There is no where in that lengthy article stating that the Chinese are catching mahi or does it detail them fishing in the Atlantic or Carib'n Sea. It is worthless for this discussion. You need to do better than that. The mahi are getting hampered by the US recreational fleet along a lot of its migratory path especially the path closest to Florida.
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Post by conchydong on Jul 28, 2023 12:27:10 GMT -5
Harvest
Commercial fishery:
In 2021, commercial fishermen harvested 172,000 pounds of mahi mahi in the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico valued at $584,000, according to the NOAA Fisheries commercial fishing landings database.
Gear types, habitat impacts, and bycatch:
Hook-and-line gear (including handlines and longlines) is used for commercial harvest.
Hook-and-line gear has minimal impact on habitat because it does not contact the ocean floor.
Longlines can incidentally catch sea turtles, marine mammals, and other species.
Longline fishermen follow measures to prevent bycatch and protect other species. These include using specific gear and safe handling techniques to reduce impacts on sea turtles, as well as not fishing in certain areas to protect species such as billfish.
Recreational fishery:
The mahi mahi fishery in the Atlantic, Caribbean, and Gulf of Mexico has historically been recreational.
In 2021, recreational fishermen harvested 10 million pounds of mahi mahi in the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico, according to the NOAA Fisheries recreational fishing landings database.
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Post by catseye on Jul 28, 2023 12:55:19 GMT -5
Thankyou !
It does not matter where along their migration route the biomas of mahi is reduced.
Its a numbers equation and it does not happen in just a couple/three years.
Conversly, it took take years to build up their numbers if that is even in the cards.
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Post by Laxcoach on Jul 28, 2023 14:15:24 GMT -5
There was a time in the 90s, before limits I think, that mahi got pretty scarce off Ft Lauderdale. My dad went from catching them constantly in the 80s to getting no mahi for 2 years. And he fished a lot.
I think they came back pretty quickly when the limits were first introduced.
I do think they should have the same size limits in the Gulf as they have in the Atlantic. What exactly is the point of filleting something small like a 12” mahi? I assume they have done impact studies that it doesn’t affect the population. But it pisses me off whenever I see a YouTube video at one of the panhandle FADs gathering peanuts.
That brings up another question, even though we have the GS, why aren’t there any FADs out there? I assume they would draw bait fish like an oil rig does. And fishing off of rigs is a lot of fun.
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