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Post by garycoleco on Sept 8, 2024 10:04:44 GMT -5
Well bless your heart. Sounds like you owe them an apology and some reparations. Lots of black artists have made lots of positive music that has nothing to do with the criminal element or the “thug” lifestyle. That wasn’t what the rap industry choose to glorify. If you want to defend the multi-billion dollar rap industry, you go right ahead. Gary isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the droor Whatcha drankin retard?
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 8, 2024 10:05:52 GMT -5
Gary isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the droor Whatcha drankin retard? Your bullshit. And it sucks.....ftr....
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Sept 8, 2024 10:06:31 GMT -5
You know I just thought that I don’t believe that there was a heinous crime committed of this ilk by a child that had been out hunting and fishing at a young age.
If my assumption is correct it reinforces that it is the mental state of people not the availability or access to firearms that causes the carnage.
Early firearms instruction and education would/could/should have a significant effect on lessening this type of violence ?
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Post by johngalt on Sept 8, 2024 10:16:17 GMT -5
Well bless your heart. Sounds like you owe them an apology and some reparations. Lots of black artists have made lots of positive music that has nothing to do with the criminal element or the “thug” lifestyle. That wasn’t what the rap industry choose to glorify. If you want to defend the multi-billion dollar rap industry, you go right ahead. Rap is no different than Rock was when the older generation said Rock music glorified drugs and was the devil music. Or rock and roll encouraged wild sex parties and degenerate behavior. You are doing the same thing you accuse those who blame video games of doing, just looking for a scapegoat to blame. If it wasn't the guns, video games or the music, you guys would find something else to blame. That’s why I still listen to Merle Haggard, George Strait, Tammy, Loretta, George Jines, Gordon Lightfoot and the rest of the great musicians, singers. I couldn’t tell you or care who the top ten singers , musicians are today, it all sounds the same. Meanwhile, “The Cowboy Rides Away” is starting to come on now. Later. 👍
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Post by garycoleco on Sept 8, 2024 10:22:26 GMT -5
Rap is no different than Rock was when the older generation said Rock music glorified drugs and was the devil music. Or rock and roll encouraged wild sex parties and degenerate behavior. You are doing the same thing you accuse those who blame video games of doing, just looking for a scapegoat to blame. If it wasn't the guns, video games or the music, you guys would find something else to blame. That’s why I still listen to Merle Haggard, George Strait, Tammy, Loretta, George Jines, Gordon Lightfoot and the rest of the great musicians, singers. I couldn’t tell you or care who the top ten singers , musicians are today, it all sounds the same. Meanwhile, “The Cowboy Rides Away” is starting to come on now. Later. 👍 I completely agree with everything but Lightfoot. Oh he's a fruit. Was actually listening to Silver Wings this morning Truth is hip hop is the most listened to music genre in the world. I get industry magazines and supposedly 450 million streaming users listened to it. Yet a small handful shoot up school
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Post by bullfrog on Sept 8, 2024 11:23:23 GMT -5
Or rock and roll encouraged wild sex parties and degenerate behavior. Negative rock did do that. The difference is that explicit rock didn’t come to dominate the rock industry to the same degree that thug rap came to dominate hip hop, and rock doesn’t aim itself at defining a racial demographic like rap does. Rap says “if you don’t affirm the gang lifestyle, you’re not really black.”
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Post by bullfrog on Sept 8, 2024 11:25:28 GMT -5
Well bless your heart. Sounds like you owe them an apology and some reparations. Lots of black artists have made lots of positive music that has nothing to do with the criminal element or the “thug” lifestyle. That wasn’t what the rap industry choose to glorify. If you want to defend the multi-billion dollar rap industry, you go right ahead. I didn't do anything, so I owe no one.... Also, I'm not sure where you read that I'm defending them or that theyre black?? Care to help me out a little? I thought this thread was about crazy people doing crazy things It sounded like you blamed whites, the government, and the justice system for the ills of modern inner city blacks who embrace negative music. You weren’t?
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 8, 2024 11:31:30 GMT -5
I didn't do anything, so I owe no one.... Also, I'm not sure where you read that I'm defending them or that theyre black?? Care to help me out a little? I thought this thread was about crazy people doing crazy things It sounded like you blamed whites, the government, and the justice system for the ills of modern inner city blacks who embrace negative music. You weren’t? No counselor, he definitely did. He just won't admit it.
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Post by garycoleco on Sept 8, 2024 12:43:12 GMT -5
I didn't do anything, so I owe no one.... Also, I'm not sure where you read that I'm defending them or that theyre black?? Care to help me out a little? I thought this thread was about crazy people doing crazy things It sounded like you blamed whites, the government, and the justice system for the ills of modern inner city blacks who embrace negative music. You weren’t? No. You interjected blacks. Seems like your predisposition would be a problem in your line of work.
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Post by bullfrog on Sept 8, 2024 16:08:56 GMT -5
It sounded like you blamed whites, the government, and the justice system for the ills of modern inner city blacks who embrace negative music. You weren’t? No. You interjected blacks. Seems like your predisposition would be a problem in your line of work. That’s a dishonest answer. I stated that it was my belief that negative music has ruined the black community, a statement I’ve made many times before. You responded that my statement was “bullshit” and you blamed “the government, justice system, and whites” instead of music. So of course you were referring to blacks. You’re lying by saying you were not. Otherwise you wouldn’t have mentioned “whites.”
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Post by garycoleco on Sept 8, 2024 17:08:58 GMT -5
No. You interjected blacks. Seems like your predisposition would be a problem in your line of work. That’s a dishonest answer. I stated that it was my belief that negative music has ruined the black community, a statement I’ve made many times before. You responded that my statement was “bullshit” and you blamed “the government, justice system, and whites” instead of music. So of course you were referring to blacks. You’re lying by saying you were not. Otherwise you wouldn’t have mentioned “whites.” Simple. You blamed music for the degradation of the black community. I blamed all the above for the degradation of inner cities from which hip hop cones from. It's really not that hard to absorb if you're willing to set aside your predisposition
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 8, 2024 17:17:46 GMT -5
That’s a dishonest answer. I stated that it was my belief that negative music has ruined the black community, a statement I’ve made many times before. You responded that my statement was “bullshit” and you blamed “the government, justice system, and whites” instead of music. So of course you were referring to blacks. You’re lying by saying you were not. Otherwise you wouldn’t have mentioned “whites.” Simple. You blamed music for the degradation of the black community. I blamed all the above for the degradation of inner cities from which hip hop cones from. It's really not that hard to absorb if you're willing to set aside your predisposition You concentrate on wearing people down. Civilized people get tired of the childish antics. Consider me, not a fan.
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Post by garycoleco on Sept 8, 2024 17:27:44 GMT -5
Simple. You blamed music for the degradation of the black community. I blamed all the above for the degradation of inner cities from which hip hop cones from. It's really not that hard to absorb if you're willing to set aside your predisposition You concentrate on wearing people down. Civilized people get tired of the childish antics. Consider me, not a fan. Still drankin wino?
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Sept 8, 2024 17:42:01 GMT -5
I played Mario growing up. Never made me want to shoot fireballs at turtles or stomp on them. I've played COD and I'm a big HALO fan. Never thought this is just like killing someone. Of course I'm a semi logical and semi sane person.
There is probably a certain demographic of peope who shouldn't be allowed to play the games. Mater of fact like movies many of those games ha e a rating of M for mature. Unfortunately firearms aren't rated. And we will more than likely eventually face more scrutiny and restrictions on video games than we do firearms. I've been around firearms most of my life. My dad IMO foolishly sold his after an unfortunate incident. But all my uncles, grandfather and most cousins had them.
I have known people the government would.t trust with a drivers license and for good reason who have never had a problem legally attaining guns. As my local Sherriff who I like and deeply respect and ai talked a few years ago about Alabama going to a 5 year pistol permit. I told him I wasn't a fan because a person can change a whole lot in 5 years. The person I sold a permit to last year might not be anything like the man who still possesses it next year. He kinda agreed. Of course now you do t even have to have a permit in Alabama. I choose to maintain one because it makes it easier when traveling out of state with a firearm.
The rednexk POS I got into life threatening combat with several years ago should have never been allowed to possess a gun. Yet he did. Multiple domestic violence charges and assault should have prevented him from ever being given possession of a gun but it didn't. And usually every one of these stories involve some kind of story about the FBI or other agency having these kids or people on their radar. But if they ever did make a move on someone then the Gun Lobby, NRA et al would lose their shit and say the person was a victim and was having his rights taken away. So where do we go? The rights unwillingness to be part of the conversation will result in restrictions that none of us will like. Or at least shouldn't like. But don't worry hold the line. "Guns don't kill people" is a hell of a way to fight gun crime and mass shootings.
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Post by toldya on Sept 8, 2024 18:14:27 GMT -5
Concentrate on solving the problem without letting the gun be an issue in the discussion.
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