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Post by GaryS on Sept 7, 2024 4:31:59 GMT -5
Bullying is nothing new. Parents not being involved with their children’s upbringing is new. In the old days most mothers never had to work and kept a close eye on their children. I grew up with both parents working, Hell I was working as a bus boy at 14, before that had steady lawns to mow. Most of the time I had more walking around money than my parents. My parents didn't know what I was doing before they got home. But thinking back on it most families the mothers didn't work.
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 7, 2024 9:12:55 GMT -5
Did you ever play Doom, Grand Theft Auto, or Call of Duty as a kid? I killed a shitload of ‘indians’ The unnecessary graphic detail in those videos is nothing like what I remember as a kid from when we played cowboys and Indians with our stick rifles and bows.
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 7, 2024 9:20:14 GMT -5
I killed a shitload of ‘indians’ The unnecessary graphic detail in those videos is nothing like what I remember as a kid from when we played cowboys and Indians with our stick rifles and bows. That was kinda my point, I was around for the first Mortal Kombat. Ripping peoples skin off, pulling out hearts. Movies like Saw and Hostel. And it’s gotten progressively worse. Kids are desensitized to brutal violence.
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Post by wynnv on Sept 7, 2024 10:10:59 GMT -5
The unnecessary graphic detail in those videos is nothing like what I remember as a kid from when we played cowboys and Indians with our stick rifles and bows. That was kinda my point, I was around for the first Mortal Kombat. Ripping peoples skin off, pulling out hearts. Movies like Saw and Hostel. And it’s gotten progressively worse. Kids are desensitized to brutal violence. Completely agree. I have said this for years. You cant tell me a child that constantly plays the violent games...particularly a child that has some issues isn't desensitized or influenced by brutal violence of the games. I played the whole Metal Gear Solid series, several of the Halo series...a couple of the Max Payne series and others as an adult. Those games are probably somewhat tame compared to the newer games.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 7, 2024 10:20:46 GMT -5
Bullying is nothing new. Parents not being involved with their children’s upbringing is new. In the old days most mothers never had to work and kept a close eye on their children. I grew up with both parents working, Hell I was working as a bus boy at 14, before that had steady lawns to mow. Most of the time I had more walking around money than my parents. My parents didn't know what I was doing before they got home. But thinking back on it most families the mothers didn't work. Pretty much the same.
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Post by gandy on Sept 7, 2024 10:25:33 GMT -5
The whole unspoken pecking order of life in general has been dismantled as the nanny state removed 'boys will be boys' from the equation in adolescent development. Calling that mental development bullying and giving it zero tolerance.
And now we have a whole mess of people that should have been punched in the face a time or two because time outs and safe spaces don't thoroughly teach every individual life lessons they need to know.
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Post by gardawg on Sept 7, 2024 10:48:52 GMT -5
That was kinda my point, I was around for the first Mortal Kombat. Ripping peoples skin off, pulling out hearts. Movies like Saw and Hostel. And it’s gotten progressively worse. Kids are desensitized to brutal violence. Completely agree. I have said this for years. You cant tell me a child that constantly plays the violent games...particularly a child that has some issues isn't desensitized or influenced by brutal violence of the games. I played the whole Metal Gear Solid series, several of the Halo series...a couple of the Max Payne series and others as an adult. Those games are probably somewhat tame compared to the newer games. I used to play Pac Man a lot. Didn't seem to influence me. Other than now I always run when I see a ghost.
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 8, 2024 0:10:42 GMT -5
The whole unspoken pecking order of life in general has been dismantled as the nanny state removed 'boys will be boys' from the equation in adolescent development. Calling that mental development bullying and giving it zero tolerance. And now we have a whole mess of people that should have been punched in the face a time or two because time outs and safe spaces don't thoroughly teach every individual life lessons they need to know. This sounds like you miss the good old days of bullying?Natural pecking order of making people feel less than?
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 8, 2024 1:51:44 GMT -5
The whole unspoken pecking order of life in general has been dismantled as the nanny state removed 'boys will be boys' from the equation in adolescent development. Calling that mental development bullying and giving it zero tolerance. And now we have a whole mess of people that should have been punched in the face a time or two because time outs and safe spaces don't thoroughly teach every individual life lessons they need to know. This sounds like you miss the good old days of bullying?Natural pecking order of making people feel less than? Whatever part of you two, thinks I earned my stripes in a dishonest way, Mi casa su. casa . There is no truth that the smallest guy fights the hardest.
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Post by GaryS on Sept 8, 2024 5:03:58 GMT -5
That was kinda my point, I was around for the first Mortal Kombat. Ripping peoples skin off, pulling out hearts. Movies like Saw and Hostel. And it’s gotten progressively worse. Kids are desensitized to brutal violence. Completely agree. I have said this for years. You cant tell me a child that constantly plays the violent games...particularly a child that has some issues isn't desensitized or influenced by brutal violence of the games. I played the whole Metal Gear Solid series, several of the Halo series...a couple of the Max Payne series and others as an adult. Those games are probably somewhat tame compared to the newer games. It's not just games, When John Wayne or Mat Dillion shot someone they grabbed their chest and died. Today you have to see the bullet going in and blood shooting out, maybe even some torn flesh and dismemberment.
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Post by garycoleco on Sept 8, 2024 7:37:46 GMT -5
Children are far more endangered by sugar than they are a firearm. The shooter had a Constitutional right to have a firearm. He chose to use it against people. It's not video games or guns. It's broken people. Broken people do broken things. Add prescription drugs to Broken people and you get what you get.
Sorry for injecting common sense to the thread
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Post by johngalt on Sept 8, 2024 7:47:48 GMT -5
Children are far more endangered by sugar than they are a firearm. The shooter had a Constitutional right to have a firearm. He chose to use it against people. It's not video games or guns. It's broken people. Broken people do broken things. Add prescription drugs to Broken people and you get what you get. Sorry for injecting common sense to the thread To many people want to look the other way instead of looking at the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 8, 2024 8:04:54 GMT -5
So everybody has blamed this and blamed and lamented the passing of the good old days.
What is the solution? Be practical. We're not going back to the world we grew up in.
Remember whatever rights we step on are also rights we lose.
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Post by cyclist on Sept 8, 2024 8:06:56 GMT -5
The whole unspoken pecking order of life in general has been dismantled as the nanny state removed 'boys will be boys' from the equation in adolescent development. Calling that mental development bullying and giving it zero tolerance. And now we have a whole mess of people that should have been punched in the face a time or two because time outs and safe spaces don't thoroughly teach every individual life lessons they need to know. Get punched in the face and turn to an easily available and much idolized gun...
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 8, 2024 8:32:04 GMT -5
So everybody has blamed this and blamed and lamented the passing of the good old days. What is the solution? Be practical. We're not going back to the world we grew up in. Remember whatever rights we step on are also rights we lose. You are the poster child for educating us on the new ways to be an asshole. Thx.
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