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Post by cyclist on Sept 6, 2024 10:50:36 GMT -5
It is reasonable to think that the 2nd can still stand tall with regulations that make our country safer from guns I strongly disagree with that statement. I feel the only thing that keeps the whack jobs in DC at least a little restrained is the fact that there are 10's of millions that are well armed. If that wasn't the case they'd just shove their agenda down our throats. Well armed insurgents?
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Post by johngalt on Sept 6, 2024 12:08:12 GMT -5
I don’t think it mattered what kind of firearm he had access to. The kid is a homicidal maniac. An “AR” didn’t make him do it. He could have done just as much with a semi-auto .22LR squirrel gun. The ar made it more convenient... easier for a 14 yo...made it turn key, more alluring maybe, and certainly more deadly - no hunting sa or shotgun is gonna have that capacity without a little work and buying stuff... that a mental 14 yo probably did not have the means to undertake. It is reasonable to think that the 2nd can still stand tall with regulations that make our country safer from guns. ...about 40,000 people die from guns every year...thats 14 deaths per 100,000 people - in the entire EU gun deaths are below 1 per 100,000 Europe? Ever been to Dachau? Or one of those other tourist attractions?😉
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Post by johngalt on Sept 6, 2024 12:11:22 GMT -5
The problem is mental illness not weapons. And I might add, anyone noticed that back in July when a former president was shot, a man killed and two others critically wounded there was absolutely no talk of gun bans, types of guns or even magazine capacities? I guess it all depends on who gets shot?
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Post by cyclist on Sept 6, 2024 12:14:08 GMT -5
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Sept 6, 2024 12:17:19 GMT -5
Every time this happens I am forced to question what that kid went through to make him want to kill. 12-14 are some of the hardest years on young men for all kinds of reasons. Raging hormones and an inability to self regulate emotions. All that being said millions of kids have access to guns. When I was that age we regularly rode around my buddies farm on pickup trucks, 4wheelers, anything that woukd roll and had gas in it. And we usually had a gun or 2 to shoot. How we never shot a cow I'll never know because we shot every damn thing else. But we didn't have the desire to shoot people. All though I can say on a couple of occasions I would of shot a bully or two if the opportunity presented itself. I learned my lesson from one incedent and I tried to stress it to my kids. Do what ever you are going to do but do it quietly. Do not tell someone you are going to beat their ass. And what ever you do do not under any circumstances say you are going to kill someone. Which is what I did as I was bashing his head into the ice cream cooler in the lunch room. They really frown on that. But if you are telling the person you are bashing their head that tou are going to kill them it ups the punishment and gets a lot of people involved. You'd rather not have involved
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Post by jcbcpa on Sept 6, 2024 13:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by stc1993 on Sept 6, 2024 14:21:44 GMT -5
I read that story yesterday. It got me you have to press the button 8 times to lockdown the school. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by toldya on Sept 6, 2024 14:46:23 GMT -5
I don’t think it mattered what kind of firearm he had access to. The kid is a homicidal maniac. An “AR” didn’t make him do it. He could have done just as much with a semi-auto .22LR squirrel gun. The ar made it more convenient... easier for a 14 yo...made it turn key, more alluring maybe, and certainly more deadly - no hunting sa or shotgun is gonna have that capacity without a little work and buying stuff... that a mental 14 yo probably did not have the means to undertake. It is reasonable to think that the 2nd can still stand tall with regulations that make our country safer from guns....about 40,000 people die from guns every year...thats 14 deaths per 100,000 people - in the entire EU gun deaths are below 1 per 100,000 No, that's not reasonable because you would not stop at anything short of a complete ban. If so, what regulations would you be in favor of that would make you not touch the issue again ?
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Post by conchydong on Sept 6, 2024 16:25:36 GMT -5
What do I think? I think that many Americans, regardless of race do not raise their kids properly. That is my simple explanation.
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Post by gardawg on Sept 6, 2024 16:33:27 GMT -5
how many of these school shooters have been female ...
seems our young men have some serious problems that young women don't.
wonder why that is?
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 6, 2024 16:43:31 GMT -5
Lonely, isolated , bullied, confused, misguided, unguided. Kids can be cruel and parents can be absent.
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Post by conchydong on Sept 6, 2024 16:49:11 GMT -5
Bullying is nothing new. Parents not being involved with their children’s upbringing is new. In the old days most mothers never had to work and kept a close eye on their children.
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 6, 2024 16:57:00 GMT -5
As a father of 2 teenagers … the social media aspect of todays society adds another thing to worry about. My wife has a flexible schedule and has been lucky enough to be there for the kids much more than the typical 2 income household.
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Post by olmucky on Sept 6, 2024 16:57:45 GMT -5
I had my grandfather's semiautomatic .22 and a Ruger 10/22 by the time I was 14........other than the ammunition feeding them no different...... And a pump 20 ga that was used for skeet and doves......50+ years ago...... Never considered the sort of thing discussed here. So......is it the object used or the mind of the individual? Bonnie.....of Bonnie and Clyde was 19 when they met....... World is confusing.....and in a world of how many BILLIONS......and a nation of 330+ millions......that the tail end of the bell curve distribution raises its head now and again is to be expected. And that we have world where what was done in some little hamlet out in nowhere is news all over the place, a situation that did not attain not so long ago.......well......how to figure it all out and apply the implications towards some action? And, of even more import.....how do we be sure the actions we apply to something so truly statistically rare are not more detrimental to society in the long-term than doing something else.....or even nothing.....can't answer that one either. Did you ever play Doom, Grand Theft Auto, or Call of Duty as a kid? I killed a shitload of ‘indians’
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Post by billybob on Sept 6, 2024 17:45:40 GMT -5
My home is 20 or so miles from Winder in Walnut Grove. Sad stuff
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