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Post by bullfrog on Jul 22, 2023 15:41:56 GMT -5
21 million people in Florida , 300 venomous snake bites, less then a handful result in death. Raising an army of king snakes to patrol the property seems a little drastic. Plus releasing hand reared kings might be illegal. I think that number is very low. Miami-Dade alone has about 300-400 venomous snake bites a year. There are about 7k venomous snake bites in the US each year and Florida and Texas have the most. In the case of bites on children, there are bout 1,300 bites across the US a year and 1/4 of those bites on children are in Florida and Texas. So that 300-400 statistic is probably way off, quoted by someone interested in positive snake PR and promoted to the top of the google results. There isn’t a statewide database that keeps Florida’s snake bite statistics, but it seems like I previous read that by calculating reports by individual counties, Florida has something around 1k venomous snake bites a year. Take my dogs; .17 of 1% of dogs in the US will be snake bit per year. Yet on my north Florida farm 5 dogs have been bitten 7 times between them. Possibly 8 times as a family member thinks I’ve forgotten one bite. That’s 100% of my adult dogs that have ever lived on the farm. Square that with the odds. The only dog of mine that hasn’t been so bit is a puppy that I’m sure will be once she’s allowed to have long periods of outside time unsupervised. |
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Post by stc1993 on Jul 22, 2023 17:46:54 GMT -5
My stepsons jack Russell got bit twice by copperheads. He ended up losing a leg. He lived a long life though.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 22, 2023 18:13:23 GMT -5
A quarter pounder with cheese has a better chance of killing you than a venomous snake. When I was a child I worried about dying from quick sand. Now I worry about gout.
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Post by swampdog on Jul 22, 2023 18:27:47 GMT -5
Good memory troma. Quick sand was in a lot of the old adventure movies back in the day. I actually worried about quicksand as well when I was a young fella.
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Post by cadman on Jul 22, 2023 19:17:10 GMT -5
I still want to know where is all this quicksand that is supposed to get us. Seems like it was everywhere in the old movies.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 22, 2023 22:37:46 GMT -5
A quarter pounder with cheese has a better chance of killing you than a venomous snake. When I was a child I worried about dying from quick sand. Now I worry about gout. Depends on where you are. Around 150,000 die of snakebite world wide a year, compared to lighting strikes where only around 2,000 people die overall. But less than 10 in the US die annually of snake bite. Owed to both our good medicine and the fact that our snakes are a lot more laid back that many species found around the world. There’s some really nasty snakes in Africa and South America that will go out of their way long distances to bite a human. Still, if you’re one of the 6,000-7,000 people to get bit in the US, its going to cost you around $100,000 or more in medical bills. The dangers of snakes gets downplayed a lot in media in the name of snake conservation. Same is true of many dangerous animals. Rattlesnake roundups weren’t done by mustache twirling villains who got off by killing snakes. They were a function of what was practical for a time when people lived closer to the land and wanted to increase the odds that their children and livestock wouldn’t be bit. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 23, 2023 7:32:21 GMT -5
A quarter pounder with cheese has a better chance of killing you than a venomous snake. When I was a child I worried about dying from quick sand. Now I worry about gout. Depends on where you are. Around 150,000 die of snakebite world wide a year, compared to lighting strikes where only around 2,000 people die overall. But less than 10 in the US die annually of snake bite. Owed to both our good medicine and the fact that our snakes are a lot more laid back that many species found around the world. There’s some really nasty snakes in Africa and South America that will go out of their way long distances to bite a human. Still, if you’re one of the 6,000-7,000 people to get bit in the US, its going to cost you around $100,000 or more in medical bills. The dangers of snakes gets downplayed a lot in media in the name of snake conservation. Same is true of many dangerous animals. Rattlesnake roundups weren’t done by mustache twirling villains who got off by killing snakes. They were a function of what was practical for a time when people lived closer to the land and wanted to increase the odds that their children and livestock wouldn’t be bit. You forgot Australia, the land where everything wants to kill you. |
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 23, 2023 7:47:52 GMT -5
Depends on where you are. Around 150,000 die of snakebite world wide a year, compared to lighting strikes where only around 2,000 people die overall. But less than 10 in the US die annually of snake bite. Owed to both our good medicine and the fact that our snakes are a lot more laid back that many species found around the world. There’s some really nasty snakes in Africa and South America that will go out of their way long distances to bite a human. Still, if you’re one of the 6,000-7,000 people to get bit in the US, its going to cost you around $100,000 or more in medical bills. The dangers of snakes gets downplayed a lot in media in the name of snake conservation. Same is true of many dangerous animals. Rattlesnake roundups weren’t done by mustache twirling villains who got off by killing snakes. They were a function of what was practical for a time when people lived closer to the land and wanted to increase the odds that their children and livestock wouldn’t be bit. You forgot Australia, the land where everything wants to kill you. Yes, I’m just not familiar with how likely Australia’s venomous snake species are to go out of their way to bite a person that isn’t already in striking distance. I know that Africa and South America have snakes that will make a decision to close the gap by several yards so that they can bite someone that otherwise isn’t very close to the snake. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 23, 2023 7:57:19 GMT -5
You forgot Australia, the land where everything wants to kill you. Yes, I’m just not familiar with how likely Australia’s venomous snake species are to go out of their way to bite a person that isn’t already in striking distance. I know that Africa and South America have snakes that will make a decision to close the gap by several yards so that they can bite someone that otherwise isn’t very close to the snake. Coastal Taipan will kill you and your whole family if you piss it off. I think it is among the the most aggressive snakes in the world. |
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 23, 2023 8:00:07 GMT -5
Perceived levels of danger I'd guess. One snake's sense is probably greater than another.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 17, 2023 13:00:27 GMT -5
Bullfrog. Will those big chickens you breed harm normal farmyard chickens like Rhode Island Reds or those common white birds. ( I can’t remember their names).
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 17, 2023 13:34:41 GMT -5
Bullfrog. Will those big chickens you breed harm normal farmyard chickens like Rhode Island Reds or those common white birds. ( I can’t remember their names). Only the roosters will hurt other roosters. And they’ll possibly eat chicks that aren’t their own. A couple of times this spring and summer the terrorfowl have crowded new mothers and ate all their chicks. But the mothers for their part didn’t have enough fight in them to ward off the terrorfowl. Generally, the terrorfowl will integrate with adults of other breeds so long as those adults aren’t rival roosters. |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 17, 2023 15:06:23 GMT -5
I’ve got a friend that loves raising chickens. He has about 70 acres in Lockport Illinois. It is historic property. It was part of Andrew Carnegie’s US Steel works. Well the chickens really are therapeutic for him but he loses them too quickly.
The predators keep getting his chickens. Mostly mink and raccoons. Do you think this type of bird could repel them? Thanks for any advice or thoughts.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 17, 2023 17:49:47 GMT -5
I’ve got a friend that loves raising chickens. He has about 70 acres in Lockport Illinois. It is historic property. It was part of Andrew Carnegie’s US Steel works. Well the chickens really are therapeutic for him but he loses them too quickly. The predators keep getting his chickens. Mostly mink and raccoons. Do you think this type of bird could repel them? Thanks for any advice or thoughts. Oriental gamefowl take at least 3 years to hit their aggressive and protective prime. And even then he isn’t likely to repel the mammalian predators with one. They’re more for repelling hawks. Birds of prey will learn to stay away when a big oriental rooster is on guard. A free range dog is his best bet. Is he loosing them in his coop at night? |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 17, 2023 18:02:07 GMT -5
Yes. They are taking them out of the coop at night. He has caught several mink after them, a couple Raccoons and even a possum. It says that possum would not be after chickens but there was one.
I guess it was one of the minks that got in and tried to drag one through the small hole in his chicken wire. It was stuck in the wire in the morning.
He has a few problems with his family and the chickens really help him mellow out. I don’t think people who have not had chickens can believe how calming and therapeutic they can be.
I used to spend hours out with ours years ago.
Anyway he is badly bothered when he loses one of his flock. He was telling me about how a few actually come up to him and hang out with him when he sets outside. 😊. Anyway thanks for the help.
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