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Post by stc1993 on Jul 10, 2024 15:08:12 GMT -5
I thank God almost daily for the lowly chicken. I feel he put me on this earth specifically to control their population and to keep them from taking over I eat my share of chickens and part of another's share. There eggs too. I eat eggs any kind of way they're cooked.
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Post by conchydong on Jul 10, 2024 15:21:26 GMT -5
They used to have cockfights on Saddlebunch Key back in the day. I think they moved their operations to Rockland Key. But no comparison to the ones that they have in the Philippines where it is a national pastime. Over there they put razors on the cocks and the fights usually end fairly quickly. The looser goes into a pot the same day. I have seen both. Although it is really not my cup of tea we have to remember that we raise chickens to be slaughtered anyway.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 10, 2024 19:52:43 GMT -5
Sure glad to hear that they are doing well. They sure multiply quickly. Do you have to cull out the younger roosters so that they don’t fight? It is my general practice to. But this year I’m going to let nature take its course and let them cull out each other until the strongest is standing. From a perspective of passing on the best genes, that’s the natural way. I believe I wouldn’t have likely had the issue with Marek’s disease if I would have allowed natural selection via roosters fighting to define the future of the flock.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 10, 2024 20:06:53 GMT -5
They used to have cockfights on Saddlebunch Key back in the day. I think they moved their operations to Rockland Key. But no comparison to the ones that they have in the Philippines where it is a national pastime. Over there they put razors on the cocks and the fights usually end fairly quickly. The looser goes into a pot the same day. I have seen both. Although it is really not my cup of tea we have to remember that we raise chickens to be slaughtered anyway. I don’t think people should cockfight in the U.S. because its illegal to and it isn’t likely going to ever be made legal again. If you want to cockfight, move somewhere its legal. Setting the legality aside, cockfighting does not offend me as a moral matter. Chicken lives are disposable. Like you point out, we raise them for slaughter by the billions in conditions far worse than what a gamefowl lives in prior to his bout in the pit. As it is illegal, I would never partake in it or allow my birds to participate. Yet if it was legal, I probably would. Turns out my family were devoted cockfighters and I never knew it until the various partakers died. The last one, a great uncle, died of Covid a few years ago and when he died, the family members who knew the history relayed it to me. Turns out that as a child, I was raising some of the family’s cocks for that purpose and I didn’t realize it.
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Post by stc1993 on Jul 10, 2024 20:24:12 GMT -5
They still have cockfights. I'd be willing to bet just about 50 percent of the states.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 10, 2024 20:47:14 GMT -5
They still have cockfights. I'd be willing to bet just about 50 percent of the states. Yes, but they’re all illegal now. It was legal in Louisiana through the 2000s. And it was also legal to take roosters to other countries or territories to fight them until very recently. But those days are gone and they aren’t coming back in the U.S.. I never partook in the subculture, but I’m nostalgic for some of those old fashioned personalities, tough old country gentlemen that would give you the shirt off their back on one hand and delighted in brutal blood sport on the other. It was a different mentality, one that I’m not sure we’re totally better off for casting aside. A lot of the people who do it today are methheads that raise game chickens for a quick buck. The value of a good game rooster or game eggs for hatching has remained a constant across time and cultures. About $500 for a rooster and $100 for a dozen hatching eggs in modern values. When adjusted for inflation, the monetary was the same in 1950 as now and is also the same here as Afghanistan. Many people made livings doing nothing but raising gamefowl for the pit. That’s attractive to methheads today, and the illegality runs out a lot of the old fashioned, gentlemen, types.
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Post by gardawg on Jul 11, 2024 7:29:35 GMT -5
some of our neighbors used to have cockfights ... I sneaked in and watched from the woods for a couple ... never seen so much white trash in one place before or since.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 11, 2024 7:37:12 GMT -5
Those birds you’re raising are too magnificent for anyone to fight. I knew a famous dog fighter. He got caught and lost everything he owned. I liked him as a person but I didn’t feel sorry for him one bit.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 11, 2024 8:19:52 GMT -5
Those birds you’re raising are too magnificent for anyone to fight. I knew a famous dog fighter. He got caught and lost everything he owned. I liked him as a person but I didn’t feel sorry for him one bit. That’s how I feel about people who cockfight today. The biggest penalty they usually face is losing all of their birds. For the old timers, their birds were their most prized possessions. The result of decades of selective breeding. Which, they all get destroyed, so its an odd thing to outlaw cockfighting for the welfare of the chickens and enforce the ban by killing all the chickens involved. Do I sympathize with the argument that government shouldn’t care what people do with their chickens? Sure. But its an academic point. Government can regulate your chickens, and has chosen to do so, and that’s that. So don’t be stupid and risk losing your chickens to engage in an illegal cockfight. Enjoy your chickens for what they are. If you absolutely NEED to fight them, go somewhere that allows it. Some very prominent and otherwise clean-cut cockfighters moved to Mexico or the Philippines where its still legal. Good for them. They chose to obey the law.
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Post by mariah8 on Jul 11, 2024 10:21:28 GMT -5
Your threads on YouTube and the old forum are legendary...
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