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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 19:28:27 GMT -5
What you talking about ? I was saying when you look at a presented poll it doesn't show how the question was worded to the participants. Not that I pay much attention to polls. That's not what you said. I am talking about your ignorance of the topic and asking why would you say something so provably false? Just a suggestion: You should probably not comment on things you don't pay much attention to. He would have nothing to post.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 14, 2024 19:34:37 GMT -5
Trump is in town today for a rally in downtown Asheville... about as Blue as it gets.. so blue the cops quit en masse a couple years ago and violent crime skyrocketed.
Lines were long to get in. Guess he's not afraid of blue towns
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Post by toldya on Aug 14, 2024 19:47:56 GMT -5
That's not what you said. I am talking about your ignorance of the topic and asking why would you say something so provably false? Just a suggestion: You should probably not comment on things you don't pay much attention to. He would have nothing to post. You're the one that was completely off point n your response to my post. And still don't get it or care other than running your mouth, which is fine if you just want something to post.
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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 19:56:38 GMT -5
If it was so easily refuted and you knew it, then why would you use the incorrect description of "rarely"? It wasn't so easily refuted . Cad showed it can be looked up. That isn't the same as seeing it listed with the poll. It may be refuted if showing how often the actual question asked appears with the poll. Anyway , I'm about to take a break from you idiots that only want to argue and can't stay on point. Try to make yourself useful to the discussions. The actual questions are always listed with the poll. The poll is the thing where the questions are listed. What you see in the media and news reports in the poll results and there is no reason to list every question asked when posting results. Most people don't care and most would not understand why the question wording matters. Most pollsters use straight forward questions and will randomize the choices to try and keep the poll fair and balanced. Their reputation is on the line. They want to be the pollster who got it right the highest percentage of the time. Websites like 538 and Realclear show you the poll results and the poll name is a link to the poll. You click the link and then you see the questions. Sometimes it links to a summary that then links to the questions. But if you want to see the questions, they are easy to find. The questions aren't why the poll results vary. The reason for different results is usually the sample demographics, which are usually listed at the end of the poll. Democrats are 33% of voter nationwide, Republicans are 32%, and independents make up 35% of voters. If they are doing national polls, the pollster will try to get the demographics as close to that as possible. if the poll is for a particular state the pollster will find the political demographics of the state and get the demographics of the poll as close as possible to those numbers If a poll's demographics leans heavy one party or another, their results will lean that way as well. It is more important to look at demographics of the pollster and then see the questions to determine if they have a bias. Real Clear will use (D) after a pollster that leans heavy democratic and an (R) after a pollster that leans heavy Republican. There are other websites that also rank how much right or left a pollster is. The other thing to check in most polls is the margin of error. Some poll have a margin of error as high as 4%. A poll result within 2 points is basically a tie. No poll has a margin of error less than 2%.
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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 20:06:09 GMT -5
He would have nothing to post. You're the one that was completely off point n your response to my post. And still don't get it or care other than running your mouth, which is fine if you just want something to post. i answered the question. I even give you more details in the post above. The issue is you have no idea what you are talking about. You read someplace that polls ask questions in certain ways to get certain responses. Which can be true for marketing polls. Political pollsters have different objectives than marketing does.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 14, 2024 20:10:15 GMT -5
Trump is in town today for a rally in downtown Asheville... about as Blue as it gets.. so blue the cops quit en masse a couple years ago and violent crime skyrocketed. Lines were long to get in. Guess he's not afraid of blue towns Lil yeah that liberal bastion of North Carolina
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 14, 2024 20:19:30 GMT -5
Trump is in town today for a rally in downtown Asheville... about as Blue as it gets.. so blue the cops quit en masse a couple years ago and violent crime skyrocketed. Lines were long to get in. Guess he's not afraid of blue towns At least he’s back on the road , Harris has forced the Trump campaign to dump money into a state that was off the board. And y’all have a real gem running for Gov. what were you guys thinking?
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Post by toldya on Aug 14, 2024 20:39:44 GMT -5
You're the one that was completely off point n your response to my post. And still don't get it or care other than running your mouth, which is fine if you just want something to post. i answered the question. I even give you more details in the post above. The issue is you have no idea what you are talking about. You read someplace that polls ask questions in certain ways to get certain responses. Which can be true for marketing polls. Political pollsters have different objectives than marketing does. It wasn't a question. Here is what I posted - " They rarely show what question they asked in context or if everybody in the poll was asked the same question in the same way. " I don't remember seeing it on the polls people posted here .
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 20:40:41 GMT -5
Ole syphilis brain is losing his grip on the party and reality.
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Post by resinhead on Aug 14, 2024 20:42:45 GMT -5
Looking in a mirror?
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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 20:58:43 GMT -5
i answered the question. I even give you more details in the post above. The issue is you have no idea what you are talking about. You read someplace that polls ask questions in certain ways to get certain responses. Which can be true for marketing polls. Political pollsters have different objectives than marketing does. It wasn't a question. Here is what I posted - " They rarely show what question they asked in context or if everybody in the poll was asked the same question in the same way. " I don't remember seeing it on the polls people posted here . No one posted polls here. They posted poll results. I posted links to the polls because you asked for the questions. The polls always have the questions asked. The poll result will only have a link to the poll in many cases. The question are always asked the same way and he person polled is asked the same question. The choices are usually randomized to ensure fair results.
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Post by toldya on Aug 14, 2024 21:17:24 GMT -5
It wasn't a question. Here is what I posted - " They rarely show what question they asked in context or if everybody in the poll was asked the same question in the same way. " I don't remember seeing it on the polls people posted here . No one posted polls here. They posted poll results. I posted links to the polls because you asked for the questions. The polls always have the questions asked. The poll result will only have a link to the poll in many cases. The question are always asked the same way and he person polled is asked the same question. The choices are usually randomized to ensure fair results. Seriously Cad ?
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Post by Tarponator on Aug 14, 2024 21:41:47 GMT -5
He is both serious and correct.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 14, 2024 22:23:09 GMT -5
While Donold is hiding out changing his piss catheter, JD Vance is having a sad little parking lot rally in Michigan. You can't make this up.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 14, 2024 23:40:53 GMT -5
And Harris is in joes basement
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