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Post by mapper on Jul 31, 2024 21:58:14 GMT -5
Well, even though surgeon General was asked in his confirmation hearings in 2021 if he would use the position as a bully pulpit to promote gun control, he said he would not.
I guess words don't matter, only following a political driven agenda. Another agency that went from objective to political, why is this not a surprise.
Require safe and secure firearm storage, including child access prevention laws. Safe and secure firearm storage means that firearms are stored unloaded and locked in a secure place, such as a firearm safe that is only accessible to authorized users, and that ammunition is stored separately from the firearm(s).
• Implement universal background checks and expand purchaser licensing laws.
• Implement effective firearm removal policies. Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs) and Domestic Violence Protection Orders (DVPOs) are complementary civil court orders, each with defined due process protections and that share the common goal of preventing harm.
• Ban assault weapons and large‑capacity magazines for civilian use.
• Create safer conditions in public places related to firearm use and carry, including through policies that govern who can carry a loaded firearm in public spaces, concealed or open, and through rules around using deadly force with a firearm in public situations where the individual(s) could have safely retreated without firing a weapon.
• Treat firearms like other consumer products. Unlike motor vehicles which have safety standards that are regulated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), pesticides that are regulated by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), or prescription drugs that are regulated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), there are no federal standards or regulations regarding the safety of firearms produced in the U.S.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 31, 2024 22:00:09 GMT -5
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Post by mapper on Jul 31, 2024 22:04:41 GMT -5
It's not a proposed rule, rather a advisory report, so no effect of law. I don't think surgeon General has any enforcement capabilities.
Just politics in a election year.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 31, 2024 22:15:34 GMT -5
Seems like a fair gun-control perspective from a public health official. Last I checked, that's what the Surgeon General does. Why get your panties in a wad? Are you scared they are coming for your guns with a stethoscope and a strongly worded flyer?
But it does raise an interesting question to me...
Should the Surgeon General, who serves at the pleasure of the President, be any more or less required to live up to their words during appointment hearings than, say, a Supreme Court justice?
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Post by mapper on Jul 31, 2024 22:31:38 GMT -5
Nope my knickers are not in a twist, just pointing out a political agenda here.
Remember this does apply to a constitutional Protection.
Most physicians are not experts in fields other than the ones they practice in. There may be exceptions but they are few.
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Post by toldya on Jul 31, 2024 22:37:39 GMT -5
If there were no guns around he would be making a report on cars, bats , matches etc.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 31, 2024 22:53:16 GMT -5
Most of it is sensible however it is politically motivated
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 31, 2024 23:00:58 GMT -5
Nope my knickers are not in a twist, just pointing out a political agenda here. Remember this does apply to a constitutional Protection. Most physicians are not experts in fields other than the ones they practice in. There may be exceptions but they are few. It's a political appointee, FFS, trying to make guns and people safer. What would you have them say? Nah, all good here? I believe insuring domestic tranquility was mentioned before arm bearing rights were protected in the Constitution, incidentally.
You might also note the capitalization in that last sentence, but why bother?
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Post by mapper on Jul 31, 2024 23:33:16 GMT -5
OK, I GeT iT NoW.
AlL ApPoInTeEs or AnY PoSiTiOn ThAt ReQuIrEs AdViSe AnD CoNsEnT iN a CoNfIrMaTiOn HeArInG iS A pOlITiCaL position aNd MuSt ReFlEcT the ViEwS oF tHe PaRtY tHaT SeLeCtEd ThEm.
CiA,NaSa,NoAa,FbI,CoAsT GuArD, SuRgEoN GeNeRaL, PoStMaStEr GeNeRaL, TrEsUaRy, EdUcAtION,EnErGy,AgRiCuLtUrE, InTeRiOr, aNd MoRe.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 31, 2024 23:44:13 GMT -5
OK, I GeT iT NoW. AlL ApPoInTeEs or AnY PoSiTiOn ThAt ReQuIrEs AdViSe AnD CoNsEnT iN a CoNfIrMaTiOn HeArInG iS A pOlITiCaL position aNd MuSt ReFlEcT the ViEwS oF tHe PaRtY tHaT SeLeCtEd ThEm. CiA,NaSa,NoAa,FbI,CoAsT GuArD, SuRgEoN GeNeRaL, PoStMaStEr GeNeRaL, TrEsUaRy, EdUcAtION,EnErGy,AgRiCuLtUrE, InTeRiOr, aNd MoRe. You do realize all the effort you just put into that just makes him smile.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 31, 2024 23:45:41 GMT -5
I'm speechless (and smiling).
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Post by cadman on Aug 1, 2024 6:43:45 GMT -5
He's just making sure Harris keeps him on if she wins. That Is part of her campaign speeches.
Right now, Biden's lame duck, no appointee cares about him. They are trying to follow Harris' lead to keep their jobs if she wins. They know they gone if Trump wins.
Unless the Dems pull a miracle and take both houses of congress and the White House, you got nothing to worry about.
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Post by mapper on Aug 1, 2024 7:09:40 GMT -5
Just trying to pull the curtain back, and show it (democrat agenda) in all places and agencies where it is not expected. It's usually more covert, ( executive actions and agency rulemaking) but I guess I still try and hold on to the rules I am regulated under not allowing me to practice out of the field of my expertise, and expect it of others. I guess I need to check Noaa and Fema and coast guard and see if any rules relating to things. You never know these days.i might need to check dept of energy to see what appliances I can buy, Or dept of education to see how the changes to title 9 will affect my granddaughters.
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Post by cadman on Aug 1, 2024 7:50:34 GMT -5
Just trying to pull the curtain back, and show it (democrat agenda) in all places and agencies where it is not expected. It's usually more covert, ( executive actions and agency rulemaking) but I guess I still try and hold on to the rules I am regulated under not allowing me to practice out of the field of my expertise, and expect it of others. I guess I need to check Noaa and Fema and coast guard and see if any rules relating to things. You never know these days.i might need to check dept of energy to see what appliances I can buy, Or dept of education to see how the changes to title 9 will affect my granddaughters.
Why wouldn't it be expected? You would not want a Trump Surgeon General to reflect his policies and views? He wouldn't last long if he didn't. How much expertise does a Surgeon General need to know violence, especially gun violence is a major issue in today's culture? Every Surgeon General is ask about their position on gun violence in their confirmation hearing. So I would expect the person to take a position on the issue while in office. Trump's Surgeon general had his own opinion on the issue Adams and the panel addressed other pressing public concerns, including gun control laws and legislation.
Adams argued that because the country is so large and vast, all politics and health issues should be addressed at the local level. In one part of the country, he said, an abundance of guns can be seen as a public health threat, while in other areas, the lack of availability of guns is seen as a public health threat.
Coming to an understanding between opposing viewpoints will be key in finding solutions to gun violence, he said, rather than bullishly maintaining a single position on the issue.
"While some folks may disagree with me on that, that's how people perceive it," Adams said. "We have to facilitate these conversations on a local level and in a language that is non-threatening or doesn't shut down the conversation.
www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2018/03/us_surgeon_general_talks_opioi.html
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Post by mapper on Aug 1, 2024 8:22:53 GMT -5
How can an inanimate object be violent ? Violence relates to a person. That's where it needs to be solved.
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