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Post by cadman on Sept 13, 2024 10:09:28 GMT -5
Well that sucks. But you should be aware that when you signed their forms, it says you are responsible for all bills and whether or not insurance pays is your problem. I know medicare and private insurance will reimburse you directly if you go to a doctor who does not accept their plan and you pay cash. downside is, they pay whatever the contract price is, which may be less than you owe. You may want to check with the VA for a similar option and then negotiate with the facility to accept that amount or deal with you in court if they want more. I would bet they take whatever the VA pays you. This website tells you how to get reimbursed for emergency care www.va.gov/resources/reimbursement-of-non-va-prescriptions-or-medical-expenses/#:~:text=In%20most%20cases%2C%20we%20only,to%20file%20a%20reimbursement%20claim. No, there's a lot simpler method. Just don't pay it. Their mistake let them pay it. Until you get sued and the judge tells you you signed a contract to pay them.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 13, 2024 10:13:39 GMT -5
No, there's a lot simpler method. Just don't pay it. Their mistake let them pay it. Until you get sued and the judge tells you you signed a contract to pay them. It would be a lot simpler if he just settled the issue instead of adopting a victim aura.
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Post by toldya on Sept 13, 2024 11:33:04 GMT -5
Until you get sued and the judge tells you you signed a contract to pay them. It would be a lot simpler if he just settled the issue instead of adopting a victim aura. I'm not sure I signed anything . I know you do for certain procedures. Doesn't matter though . They fucked up and I won't pay for their fuck up. I can get this service for free anyplace that accepts my VA insurance. They were the ones that accepted it. I will not be a victim of their screw up unless I let them make me a victim.
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Post by conchydong on Sept 13, 2024 11:38:13 GMT -5
Kemper, even though you may be in the right, if you don't get it straightened out and refuse to pay, they can screw up your credit report.
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Post by cadman on Sept 13, 2024 12:21:13 GMT -5
Even worse, they turn it over to a collection agency in a year or two that files small claims and then he has court costs on top of the bill he owes. No place sees you until you sign the treatment forms, one of them is you are responsible for the bill.
It is simple to contact the VA and get them to him for the emergency care and then he pays the facility and he doesn't have to worry about it haunting him down the road.
They may just write off such a small amount, but many walk-in clinics turn unpaid debts to collectors whose job is to get the money and not be nice about it.
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Post by johngalt on Sept 13, 2024 12:38:32 GMT -5
We as a country have issues. We independents , republicans and democrats tolerate entirely too much s..t from our government. Our veterans have to jump through way too many hoops to get the medical, mental health help they need. All they should have to do is drop proof of Military service on the counter of whichever facility they walk into (VA Card, DD214 Or the likes and they are taken care of) I don't care if it is combat or support staff away from the front lines. I had to go to an emergency care facility not long ago. I asked them if they take VA patients and she said yes and I showed her and she made a copy of my VA card and I was treated . Few weeks later I get a bill for 366 dollars . Come to find out after numerous calls that they are not authorized to take VA patients. I told them all they have to do is go ask the lady that made the mistake to pay it . They'll never get that 366 dollars out of me . Just tell them you’re an illegal alien and are here as an asylum seeker. Case closed.
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Post by toldya on Sept 13, 2024 12:57:08 GMT -5
Kemper, even though you may be in the right, if you don't get it straightened out and refuse to pay, they can screw up your credit report. My credit report means nothing to me. I'm past that as it makes no difference in anything I do.
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Post by toldya on Sept 13, 2024 13:03:19 GMT -5
Even worse, they turn it over to a collection agency in a year or two that files small claims and then he has court costs on top of the bill he owes. No place sees you until you sign the treatment forms, one of them is you are responsible for the bill. It is simple to contact the VA and get them to him for the emergency care and then he pays the facility and he doesn't have to worry about it haunting him down the road. They may just write off such a small amount, but many walk-in clinics turn unpaid debts to collectors whose job is to get the money and not be nice about it. Don't assume I signed anything or what it detailed if I did . You anti-Trumpers are often against personal responsibility. She made the mistake and her company is liable. If you took your Ford truck someplace and told them you wanted work done under warranty and they did the work under those circumstances you would not be liable if they later sent you a bill and said they don't do Ford warranty and admit they shouldn't have performed any actions.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Sept 13, 2024 14:39:42 GMT -5
I caught a very well respected orthopedic group trying to bill my father for more than the Medicare approved amount several times
If they accept Medicare they have to accept the Medicare approved amount.
Medicare paid their portion. Blue Cross paid the balance of the Medicare approved amount. Then they tried to get the old person to come out of their pocket with an additional amount.
Dad turned them into Medicare
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 13, 2024 15:02:40 GMT -5
Even worse, they turn it over to a collection agency in a year or two that files small claims and then he has court costs on top of the bill he owes. No place sees you until you sign the treatment forms, one of them is you are responsible for the bill. It is simple to contact the VA and get them to him for the emergency care and then he pays the facility and he doesn't have to worry about it haunting him down the road. They may just write off such a small amount, but many walk-in clinics turn unpaid debts to collectors whose job is to get the money and not be nice about it. Don't assume I signed anything or what it detailed if I did . You anti-Trumpers are often against personal responsibility. She made the mistake and her company is liable. If you took your Ford truck someplace and told them you wanted work done under warranty and they did the work under those circumstances you would not be liable if they later sent you a bill and said they don't do Ford warranty and admit they shouldn't have performed any actions. Trumpers or anti trumpers have nothing to with this. Its sad you think that way. This could easily be resolved but you'd rather play the victim. Credit scores are way more important in this day and age than you think. They're not just about credit. Good luck to you.
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Post by slough on Sept 13, 2024 15:04:39 GMT -5
Yall feeding the troll
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Post by stc1993 on Sept 13, 2024 15:04:55 GMT -5
I had a dermatologist overcharge me. They sent me a refund.
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Post by toldya on Sept 13, 2024 17:10:24 GMT -5
Don't assume I signed anything or what it detailed if I did . You anti-Trumpers are often against personal responsibility. She made the mistake and her company is liable. If you took your Ford truck someplace and told them you wanted work done under warranty and they did the work under those circumstances you would not be liable if they later sent you a bill and said they don't do Ford warranty and admit they shouldn't have performed any actions. Trumpers or anti trumpers have nothing to with this. Its sad you think that way. This could easily be resolved but you'd rather play the victim. Credit scores are way more important in this day and age than you think. They're not just about credit. Good luck to you. Think logically for a moment. For example- As if you took your vehicle that was under full warranty to get work done . You checked with them and showed them your paperwork and they said you were covered and then worked on your vehicle . Weeks later they send you a bill and when you talk to them about it they say they made a mistake and are not authorized to do warranty work on your vehicle so now they want you to pay thousands of dollars . If you're dumb enough to pay thousands of dollars for something that was someone else's fault and they are admitting they were at fault and all evidence shows they were at fault, that's on you.
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Post by cadman on Sept 13, 2024 17:15:43 GMT -5
Even worse, they turn it over to a collection agency in a year or two that files small claims and then he has court costs on top of the bill he owes. No place sees you until you sign the treatment forms, one of them is you are responsible for the bill. It is simple to contact the VA and get them to him for the emergency care and then he pays the facility and he doesn't have to worry about it haunting him down the road. They may just write off such a small amount, but many walk-in clinics turn unpaid debts to collectors whose job is to get the money and not be nice about it. Don't assume I signed anything or what it detailed if I did . You anti-Trumpers are often against personal responsibility. She made the mistake and her company is liable. If you took your Ford truck someplace and told them you wanted work done under warranty and they did the work under those circumstances you would not be liable if they later sent you a bill and said they don't do Ford warranty and admit they shouldn't have performed any actions. I was just trying to help you. You had to sign forms or they would not have treated you. So you do whatever you want. I really don't give a fuck. If I take my truck in and tell them I want work under warranty, they will have a form I sign that stipulates all work done will be under warranty and I agree to pay for any work not covered by warranty up to a certain dollar amount without my prior approval. They then will not do any work until they contact the warranty company and get approval. It might take days for that approval and I will be out the use of my truck waiting on it. Your situation is different in the respect you say it was an emergency care facility. Under those circumstances, they can not wait the several hours to get approval and treat you as quickly as possible and you definitely signed paperwork when you checked in. Every single facility I have ever been to has check in forms you fill out and sign. But you go ahead and ignore it instead of doing the easy thing which is contact the VA, fill out their forms, have them pay you and you pay the facility. If the warranty company was willing to pay me and i pay the repair facility, I would do that instead of acting like a child about it. Nobody is telling you to pay it out of pocket, but take the easy route and get the VA to pay it by whatever means it takes.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 13, 2024 17:53:29 GMT -5
Trumpers or anti trumpers have nothing to with this. Its sad you think that way. This could easily be resolved but you'd rather play the victim. Credit scores are way more important in this day and age than you think. They're not just about credit. Good luck to you. Think logically for a moment. For example- As if you took your vehicle that was under full warranty to get work done . You checked with them and showed them your paperwork and they said you were covered and then worked on your vehicle . Weeks later they send you a bill and when you talk to them about it they say they made a mistake and are not authorized to do warranty work on your vehicle so now they want you to pay thousands of dollars . If you're dumb enough to pay thousands of dollars for something that was someone else's fault and they are admitting they were at fault and all evidence shows they were at fault, that's on you. As I said, Good luck. (By the way, I read what I sign and there ain't no way in hell they treated you without you signing a personal guarantee. )
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