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Post by garycoleco on Jun 22, 2024 16:49:06 GMT -5
If the study were written by Pfizer would yall believe it? I did not say I do not believe what they wrote. I said it does not prove anything. It's peer reviewed.... We heard that from yall for 3 years. What's different now?
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 23, 2024 14:22:56 GMT -5
Your inability to normalize.
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 23, 2024 16:02:59 GMT -5
Your inability to normalize. Was it that hard of a question for you to answer? Your group of dummies screamed peer reviewed for 3 years. Never one considering what peer reviewed even means. Why the hang up now?
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 23, 2024 16:05:30 GMT -5
I'm not hung up at all. Looks like a solid meta-study upon cursory review. I'm simply saying that, even if we take everything in that study for true, several hundred million divided by two hundred and something is an exceedingly small number. You know, normalization.
Any more silly questions?
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 23, 2024 17:05:35 GMT -5
I'm not hung up at all. Looks like a solid meta-study upon cursory review. I'm simply saying that, even if we take everything in that study for true, several hundred million divided by two hundred and something is an exceedingly small number. You know, normalization.
Any more silly questions?
Not sill just a simple one. Strange how you wouldn't suspect peer reviews from vaccine manufacturers and not think they're cooking numbers with billions on the line, but you do think a group of unknowns with nothing to gain were up to something Pretty sure you didnt read this part. Looks like the used everything they had access to. Seems like a strong sampling Methods We searched PubMed and ScienceDirect for All published autopsy and necropsy reports relating to COVID-19 vaccination up until May 18th, 2023. All autopsy and necropsy studies that included COVID-19 vaccination as an antecedent exposure were included. Because the state of knowledge has advanced since the time of the original publications, three physicians independently reviewed each case and adjudicated whether or not COVID-19 vaccination was the direct cause or contributed significantly to death.
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Post by cadman on Jun 23, 2024 17:53:02 GMT -5
I'm not hung up at all. Looks like a solid meta-study upon cursory review. I'm simply saying that, even if we take everything in that study for true, several hundred million divided by two hundred and something is an exceedingly small number. You know, normalization.
Any more silly questions?
Not sill just a simple one. Strange how you wouldn't suspect peer reviews from vaccine manufacturers and not think they're cooking numbers with billions on the line, but you do think a group of unknowns with nothing to gain were up to something Pretty sure you didnt read this part. Looks like the used everything they had access to. Seems like a strong sampling Methods We searched PubMed and ScienceDirect for All published autopsy and necropsy reports relating to COVID-19 vaccination up until May 18th, 2023. All autopsy and necropsy studies that included COVID-19 vaccination as an antecedent exposure were included. Because the state of knowledge has advanced since the time of the original publications, three physicians independently reviewed each case and adjudicated whether or not COVID-19 vaccination was the direct cause or contributed significantly to death. Pfizer and Moderna did multiple studies with tens of thousands of volunteers and you do not believe them. But you believe a study of around 350 deaths proves something. Only 2 deaths were in the U.S. The sample is too small. Also the group does have something to gain. Check the Declaration of Competing Interest. They sell natural supplements as their business.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 23, 2024 21:52:23 GMT -5
Lol...
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Post by whitebacon on Jun 23, 2024 23:28:46 GMT -5
Not sill just a simple one. Strange how you wouldn't suspect peer reviews from vaccine manufacturers and not think they're cooking numbers with billions on the line, but you do think a group of unknowns with nothing to gain were up to something Pretty sure you didnt read this part. Looks like the used everything they had access to. Seems like a strong sampling Methods We searched PubMed and ScienceDirect for All published autopsy and necropsy reports relating to COVID-19 vaccination up until May 18th, 2023. All autopsy and necropsy studies that included COVID-19 vaccination as an antecedent exposure were included. Because the state of knowledge has advanced since the time of the original publications, three physicians independently reviewed each case and adjudicated whether or not COVID-19 vaccination was the direct cause or contributed significantly to death. Pfizer and Moderna did multiple studies with tens of thousands of volunteers and you do not believe them. But you believe a study of around 350 deaths proves something. Only 2 deaths were in the U.S. The sample is too small. Also the group does have something to gain. Check the Declaration of Competing Interest. They sell natural supplements as their business. Simple question........in the history of the United States, dozens and dozens of drugs/vaccines have failed clinical trials, after years, even decades, of trials. So how is it, that a company, Moderna, who never had one, ONE!!!! Product make it to market, was able to create a vaccine, and get it approved on the first try in literal days and weeks. I will wait.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 24, 2024 6:59:57 GMT -5
Pfizer and Moderna did multiple studies with tens of thousands of volunteers and you do not believe them. But you believe a study of around 350 deaths proves something. Only 2 deaths were in the U.S. The sample is too small. Also the group does have something to gain. Check the Declaration of Competing Interest. They sell natural supplements as their business. Simple question........in the history of the United States, dozens and dozens of drugs/vaccines have failed clinical trials, after years, even decades, of trials. So how is it, that a company, Moderna, who never had one, ONE!!!! Product make it to market, was able to create a vaccine, and get it approved on the first try in literal days and weeks. I will wait. It is all Google has right now.
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Post by cadman on Jun 24, 2024 7:55:34 GMT -5
Pfizer and Moderna did multiple studies with tens of thousands of volunteers and you do not believe them. But you believe a study of around 350 deaths proves something. Only 2 deaths were in the U.S. The sample is too small. Also the group does have something to gain. Check the Declaration of Competing Interest. They sell natural supplements as their business. Simple question........in the history of the United States, dozens and dozens of drugs/vaccines have failed clinical trials, after years, even decades, of trials. So how is it, that a company, Moderna, who never had one, ONE!!!! Product make it to market, was able to create a vaccine, and get it approved on the first try in literal days and weeks. I will wait. No vaccine has taken decades from when the clinical trials start. Moderna had been working on mRNA technology for decades before using on for the Covid vaccine. Lab testing of mRNA has been ongoing and this was not the first try. It took 8 months to get the emergency approval after human trials started. The Polio vaccine was approved in less than two years after Salk injected himself and his family with his vaccine and one year after the mass human trials began. The drug companies did save time by combining some phases of the testing, but the time frame from human testing to approval was not that much quicker than Polio and our technology is much advanced since the 50s.
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 24, 2024 10:06:55 GMT -5
I'm not hung up at all. Looks like a solid meta-study upon cursory review. I'm simply saying that, even if we take everything in that study for true, several hundred million divided by two hundred and something is an exceedingly small number. You know, normalization.
Any more silly questions?
Not sill just a simple one. Strange how you wouldn't suspect peer reviews from vaccine manufacturers and not think they're cooking numbers with billions on the line, but you do think a group of unknowns with nothing to gain were up to something Pretty sure you didnt read this part. Looks like the used everything they had access to. Seems like a strong sampling Methods We searched PubMed and ScienceDirect for All published autopsy and necropsy reports relating to COVID-19 vaccination up until May 18th, 2023. All autopsy and necropsy studies that included COVID-19 vaccination as an antecedent exposure were included. Because the state of knowledge has advanced since the time of the original publications, three physicians independently reviewed each case and adjudicated whether or not COVID-19 vaccination was the direct cause or contributed significantly to death. That's not a question, that's a statement, and one that I never made. That would be called a strawman.
Also, I didn't question the sampling. I questioned a lack of perspective (i.e. normalization) in missing the bigger picture -- and it seems you still don't get it. If you'd like, just ask, and I'll explain it further as it's an important concept to understand if one is going to be reading scientific literature.
Lastly, I did read that part -- the part that three doctors decided, after the fact, what happened with each case -- and every other part of that meta-study.
Any more silly questions, logical fallacies, or false accusations?
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Post by johngalt on Jun 24, 2024 10:20:31 GMT -5
The usual suspects are still carrying the water for their team. Cad and Tarponator have so much egg on their faces. Just admit that you were all duped by a fraudulent system of liars and corrupt officials?
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Post by meateater on Jun 24, 2024 10:38:27 GMT -5
maybe cad can give us the definition of gain of function research and why did the cdc change the definition of vaccine on there website. dont be afraid to upset your chinese man crush xi jinping or hero dr falsie.
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 24, 2024 10:56:24 GMT -5
The usual suspects are still carrying the water for their team. Cad and Tarponator have so much egg on their faces. Just admit that you were all duped by a fraudulent system of liars and corrupt officials? What "team" are you referring to?
Duped about what, specifically?
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Post by johngalt on Jun 25, 2024 6:31:52 GMT -5
The usual suspects are still carrying the water for their team. Cad and Tarponator have so much egg on their faces. Just admit that you were all duped by a fraudulent system of liars and corrupt officials? What "team" are you referring to?
Duped about what, specifically? Team? You have to ask?😂 Your insults and criticism of anyone and everyone who questioned all the mandates, rules and other nonsense from the so called experts was epic! Everything from the ridiculous 6’ rule, masks and vaccines and even closing schools and beaches. All have been proven to be a scam.
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