ocala
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Post by ocala on Jun 9, 2024 13:21:18 GMT -5
Fished the Crystal River area since 08. Had much success north of the river. Occasionally getting skunked but most times I was on fish. But then a few years ago the catching went way down. Using the same lures fishing the same area's I couldn't figure out why. I would arrive at a low tide looking for the bars to be sticking out of the water but they were still submerged. Didn't make sense. Last fall I finally noticed why. All those bars I used to fish are gone. I guess washed away by waves and tidal action. Now its just sand bars. The crustaceans that used to hide in the bars had no place to hide so they moved on. The redfish, trout and snook all went with them. Now it's just an occasional jack. A couple years ago I moved my fishing to the Yankeetown area and the catch rates were much improved. Unfortunately there are many under water obstructions in that area so once I come down from plane I have to idle every where. I kept going back the Crystal River area because I knew the fish were there. Plus with age and health it was much easier to launch at the Fort Island Trail ramp. The Yankeetown ramp is a lot harder for this old body. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) You think these bars are permanent structures but I guess with time they do erode away. I would have never thought that. Hopefully will have some pics to share in the near future.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 10, 2024 11:20:29 GMT -5
Oysters need a certain amount of freshwater to survive. The springs just aren't pumping out enough for some of them to survive up around that area. The Chazz just south of there has been hit the worst by this. Springs have dried up and salt water intrusion is killing off most of the trees and underwater fresh water vegetation. Could be the problem in Crystal River.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 11, 2024 14:31:56 GMT -5
I think Irma did a number on them.
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Post by anumber1 on Jun 18, 2024 4:05:17 GMT -5
Lack of fresh water, been watching them and the hammocks die for years.
The pace has really accelerated in the last 10 years.
The mangroves have been marching eastward also, in my lifetime (63 years) I've never seen mangroves east of salt river until lat few years.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 18, 2024 9:23:31 GMT -5
Lack of fresh water, been watching them and the hammocks die for years. The pace has really accelerated in the last 10 years. The mangroves have been marching eastward also, in my lifetime (63 years) I've never seen mangroves east of salt river until lat few years. Crazy how fast things changed. Sad to see.
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Post by capt louie on Jun 19, 2024 7:06:53 GMT -5
Lack of fresh water, been watching them and the hammocks die for years. The pace has really accelerated in the last 10 years. The mangroves have been marching eastward also, in my lifetime (63 years) I've never seen mangroves east of salt river until lat few years. This is true. And , sad.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 19, 2024 12:17:23 GMT -5
Lack of fresh water, been watching them and the hammocks die for years. The pace has really accelerated in the last 10 years. The mangroves have been marching eastward also, in my lifetime (63 years) I've never seen mangroves east of salt river until lat few years. This is true. And , sad. And nothing is being done. They just keep pumping water from the aquifer. Wait until the saltwater gets closer to civilization/residential wells. Then it will be to late.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 19, 2024 12:24:25 GMT -5
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Post by cyclist on Jun 20, 2024 9:40:43 GMT -5
And nothing is being done. They just keep pumping water from the aquifer. Wait until the saltwater gets closer to civilization/residential wells. Then it will be to late. Sea level rise is impacting the big bend big time. No so much lack of freshwater, we have been in a high water and rain trend for decades.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 20, 2024 10:46:45 GMT -5
And nothing is being done. They just keep pumping water from the aquifer. Wait until the saltwater gets closer to civilization/residential wells. Then it will be to late. Sea level rise is impacting the big bend big time. No so much lack of freshwater, we have been in a high water and rain trend for decades. I'm sure sea levels have some impact but watching the springs not pump out the fresh water they use to as the years go by was noticeable. I watched springs on the Chazz literally die.
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Post by anumber1 on Jun 20, 2024 10:56:55 GMT -5
Sea level rise is impacting the big bend big time. No so much lack of freshwater, we have been in a high water and rain trend for decades. I'm sure sea levels have some impact but watching the springs not pump out the fresh water they use to as the years go by was noticeable. I watched springs on the Chazz literally die. and around our docks up in Kings Bay. My stone crab boat has been docked at Charlie's fish house and the Crab Plant over three decades. Last ten years barnacles have gotten bad, that my friend is lack of fresh water. I live on the water in Ozello and see it firsthand.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 21, 2024 10:40:53 GMT -5
Documented Big Bend sea level rise, among other issues, and loss of vegetation communities. 5. Conclusions There is accelerated die-off of coastal forest along the Big Bend of Florida. The decline is documented by in-situ photographs, and in synoptic aerial and satellite imagery, although formal validation with ground-truth surveys was not feasible. Time series of the latter show that the decline accelerated in the last decade with no apparent regeneration. We conclude that a combination of chronic sea-level rise stress and acute cold snap events have caused rapid, sustained, and likely irreversible damage to coastal forest along the largest stretch of undeveloped coastal land in the continental United States. Further decline is expected with an accelerating sea-level rise and an increase in extreme weather events. High-resolution satellite images should be used to monitor seasonal to annual changes for the Big Bend region. This area serves as a canary in the coalmine for the compounded impacts on coastal habitats of sea-level rise and extremes in meteorological events. www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/10/11/1721Abstract Coastal ecosystems throughout the world are increasingly vulnerable to degradation as a result of accelerating sea-level rise and saltwater intrusion, more frequent and powerful extreme weather events, and anthropogenic impacts. Hardwood swamp forests in the Big Bend region of Florida’s Gulf of Mexico coast (USA) are largely devoid of the latter, but have degraded rapidly since the turn of the 21st Century. Photographs of the forest, collected on the ground since 2009, were used to guide an analysis of a 60 km2 study area using satellite images. The images confirm that the coastal forest area declined 0.60% from 1982 to 2003, but degraded rapidly, by 7.44%, from 2010 to 2017. The forest declined most rapidly along waterways and at the coastal marsh–forest boundary. Additional time series of aerial-photographs corroborated the onset of degradation in 2010. Degradation continued through 2017 with no apparent recovery. Previous research from the area has concluded that increased tidal flooding and saltwater intrusion, of the coastal plain, represent a chronic stress driving coastal forest decline in this region, but these drivers do not explain the abrupt acceleration in forest die-off. Local tide gage data indicate that sea-level rise is 2 mm yr−1 and accelerating, while meteorological data reveal at least two short-term cold snap events, with extreme temperatures exceeding the reported temperature threshold of local vegetation (−10 °C) between January 2010 and January 2011, followed by more extremes in 2016. The Big Bend hardwood forest experienced acute cold snap stress during the 2010–2017 period, of a magnitude not experienced in the previous 20 years, that compounded the chronic stress associated with sea-level rise and saltwater intrusion. This and other coastal forests can be expected to suffer further widespread and lasting degradation as these stresses are likely to be sustained.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 21, 2024 11:41:36 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bend_CoastActually some interesting info about Oysters and hammocks, springs, etc. Lots of factors impacting our region, and oysters certainly have taken a hit as well as the freshwater tree species and hammocks.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 21, 2024 12:53:58 GMT -5
Yeah it's a combination of things. It's really sad to see but that's what mother nature does. The planet is in constant change.
Can you imagine our land mass extending to the Middle Grounds many many years ago?
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jun 21, 2024 13:03:25 GMT -5
Or water covering all of Florida and half of Georgia and Alabama.
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