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Post by cadman on Jun 9, 2024 15:53:04 GMT -5
What you’re describing is not at all the same thing as a defendant being required to prove their innocence to the court. They already have a presumption of it. I never said they didn't. I never said they had to prove their innocence.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 9, 2024 16:23:44 GMT -5
And they don’t.
The state/fed court has to prove their guilt.
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Post by Captj on Jun 10, 2024 17:13:46 GMT -5
And they don’t. The state/fed court has to prove their guilt. That's what we learned in government class back when the schools had gov and history classes - mandatory. Not so much in real life. If you've ever been involved in our legal morass, even worse if you've been arrested, then you would know that it's exactly the opposite. You're guilty until proven innocent. Further the economic and social burdens arrest and trial produces amount to severe punishment.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 10, 2024 22:08:36 GMT -5
I don’t disagree about the costs of being arrested and going to court.
I do still disagree though about who has a requirement to prove what.
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