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Post by olmucky on Jun 4, 2024 18:25:39 GMT -5
is this?
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Post by gardawg on Jun 4, 2024 18:29:15 GMT -5
there's a reason it's called an airboat ...
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 4, 2024 18:33:36 GMT -5
Needed a spoiler, ask Richard Petty
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Post by GaryS on Jun 5, 2024 6:00:33 GMT -5
He's probably running close to 80 mph. He hits his brake which is a u shaped thing that is pulled down behind the boat and drags. You can see the roster tail it throws. He then lets it off and turns the boat and hits the gas. He was still hauling ass after he hit the brake and was coasting. You have a lot of lift on the grass rake and with the boat coasting you don't have the prop to help hold the front down and when you turn the outside corner is going to lift. When he hit the gas again the sudden boost was all it took to make him fly. Airboats are fun but dangerous. Things like that happen a lot when people without enough experience buy a boat above the level.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jun 5, 2024 16:11:37 GMT -5
He's probably running close to 80 mph. He hits his brake which is a u shaped thing that is pulled down behind the boat and drags. You can see the roster tail it throws. He then lets it off and turns the boat and hits the gas. He was still hauling ass after he hit the brake and was coasting. You have a lot of lift on the grass rake and with the boat coasting you don't have the prop to help hold the front down and when you turn the outside corner is going to lift. When he hit the gas again the sudden boost was all it took to make him fly. Airboats are fun but dangerous. Things like that happen a lot when people without enough experience buy a boat above the level. THIS ^^^, and add to it that he is running a gear box that will NOTICEABLY roll the boat to port from the torque when he nails the throttle after the braking and slow down. The show is over for him once his starboard bow and grassrake catch the wind. My 300lb ass sits on the starboard side of my boat and when I punch the gas pedal the right side of the boat will lift right out of the water until I'm on plane where it will level out. That initial gas stomp will get your attention. Needless to say, when shit goes south on a airboat it goes FAST. Over before you know it happened.
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Post by conchydong on Jun 5, 2024 16:23:44 GMT -5
Never owned a airboat but have spent some time on them and they do require a bit of finesse. Hope that nobody got hurt.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 5, 2024 21:09:02 GMT -5
He's probably running close to 80 mph. He hits his brake which is a u shaped thing that is pulled down behind the boat and drags. You can see the roster tail it throws. He then lets it off and turns the boat and hits the gas. He was still hauling ass after he hit the brake and was coasting. You have a lot of lift on the grass rake and with the boat coasting you don't have the prop to help hold the front down and when you turn the outside corner is going to lift. When he hit the gas again the sudden boost was all it took to make him fly. Airboats are fun but dangerous. Things like that happen a lot when people without enough experience buy a boat above the level. THIS ^^^, and add to it that he is running a gear box that will NOTICEABLY roll the boat to port from the torque when he nails the throttle after the braking and slow down. The show is over for him once his starboard bow and grassrake catch the wind. My 300lb ass sits on the starboard side of my boat and when I punch the gas pedal the right side of the boat will lift right out of the water until I'm on plane where it will level out. That initial gas stomp will get your attention. Needless to say, when shit goes south on a airboat it goes FAST. Over before you know it happened. What props do you run on them?
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Post by GaryS on Jun 6, 2024 5:06:43 GMT -5
Composite. Number of blades goes up to 8 I think. There is a counter rotating gear box that can tale more. I have a 6 cylinder Continental aircraft engine with a 5 blade on it. My smaller boat with a 4 cylinder has a 2 blade. The 5 blade prop the blade a re narrow , the 2 blade is wide.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jun 6, 2024 8:14:47 GMT -5
I'm running 3 composite, Sensenich wide blades with a 2.55 gear reduction. Motor spins 5300ish on the trailer. As you know, divide the numbers for prop rpms. You don't want to exceed safe manufacturing limits. I think I would get a lot more out of a 2.68 gear ratio but I don't seem to need it. I would like to try it though to see how much more/less fuel I would burn at cruise and to see if the added performance was worth the cost. My gut tells me my motor might live longer at lower rpms, but my curiosity wants to know if that added pitch requirement in the props would keep my average cruise rpms lower. My motor was built with max hp at 6-6200 rpm so I'm currently leaving a lot of hp on the table in case I needed it in a jam. Unfortunately my wallet is tapped out for excessive experimental desires at the moment. We use different degrees of pitch in the props to control motor rpms. Obviously less pitch for higher rpms and more pitch for less. I don't have a "brake" (most do not) on my boat but then again I'm generally keeping my cruising around 2500 to 3500 motor rpm for about a 30mph average with 4 people. I have no business doing 60 plus, although I've had my barge up to 62 with just me in it. The boat still had room to go but my enthusiasm was out of gas at 50ish.
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Post by richm on Jun 6, 2024 10:01:34 GMT -5
I knew a gal who kept getting boyfriends at places like Jolley Gator and such. She lost 2 in a row to the props on airboats.
How frequent are accidents with those things?
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Post by nickhoog on Jun 6, 2024 10:11:11 GMT -5
At least he did it in front of the camera...
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Post by One Man Gang on Jun 6, 2024 16:22:35 GMT -5
Accidents seem to have risen some in recent years in my opinion. I don't have any figures but it seems like I read about at least one fatality every year now.
Guys used to build their own boats much of the time, but there's a new breed of inexperience out there now that has no problem dropping $80k plus on the latest 800hp rig, who just wants to go tear ass through the woods. A ton of these noobs and pretend gladesmen have joined the community and don't have respect for others, the environment, or that new toy they just bought.
These things are not like a normal boat and I honestly don't think most of the people out there realize how dangerous they are. No reverse, they slide, you have no/less control without throttle, they are relatively easy to sink, roll, or flip if you're horsing around. It's not academics, but you really should develop a feel for the boat in the seat of your pants. In other words, your ass should tell you what's happening with the boat under you.
Much of the time you can be running tight trails with blind turns, or in tall grass. Visibility can be limited so you need to have your head on a swivel and paying attention. Have a plan to bail off a trail if some asshole is trying to run 60 in a winding 8ft wide trail. Too many people don't really know their boat and just think they should be running balls out everywhere they're going instead of using common sense, and slowing down in restricted viz or winding trails. There are also plenty of suicidal nitwits running these same trails in other type of boats with no flag so there is plenty stupidity to go around.
I'm sure pre sail check lists often don't take place among a lot of airboat owners. Nuts and bolts need to be checked. Cracks in metal works need to be looked for. Periodic torque checks on prop blades and hubs. A solid maintenance routine should be adhered to. If anything is not right, the boat shouldn't leave the garage. Airboats are unforgiving and have no mercy when they come apart. Unfortunately, the propeller ALWAYS wins.
Having said this, most accidents happen because someone in the chain of events is either inexperienced, imprudent, inebriated, inattentive or all of the above.
As bad as it sounds, I wouldn't trade my airboat for any other boat in the world, except maybe a better airboat. It's hands down the best way to see and experience things that are impossible to see otherwise. The best times are when you can pull up to a empty dirt ramp with no other trucks or trailers. You know then that you have the place to yourself. No crowds. A quick and effortless launch and you're off like a shot, gliding over the grass trying to catch the sun before it disappears for the day...
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Post by GaryS on Jun 7, 2024 5:34:56 GMT -5
Well said.
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