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Post by bswiv on Jun 2, 2024 17:00:58 GMT -5
A couple of quotes below.....the rest linked at the bottom.
Whether this is correct I've no way to know.......
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It is relevant and more than ironic that the energy density of biomass fuels like straw and animal dung is twenty times greater than the today‘s best lithium-ion batteries, and gasoline has an energy density over 50 times greater.
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Using current technologies, half of the power produced by the battery pack of an electric vehicle goes to moving the batteries themselves, a basic problem for a mobile power source.
www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/05/30/the_many_problems_with_batteries_1035000.html
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Post by TRTerror on Jun 2, 2024 17:57:20 GMT -5
Interesting...
We should apply for a Grant and study this ...We'll need new 4 Wheelers and a Tractor and Bush hog..Maybe a couple hundred acres with say 100 Head of Cattle as a test area.
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Post by swampdog on Jun 2, 2024 20:45:07 GMT -5
Hope this isn’t too political of a post, but if this is correct it further proves that the beauty of science is that often a first selection of a solution to a problem is replaced by other technologies. Unfortunately many times the first solution gains too much traction from overly zealous capitalist and political supporters, miring a potentially more environmentally sound and affordable solution in catch-up mode without support from those that deal out the politically driven incentives.
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Post by richm on Jun 2, 2024 20:55:31 GMT -5
The plains indians used to burn dried dung. Burning wood produces a lot more energy.
I sure like my lithium ion trolling motor battery. Light and produces 100 ah, just like the heavy lead/acid battery but supposedly for a gazillion charges.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 3, 2024 8:34:31 GMT -5
The plains Indians had no forests, and no way to chop wood if they did.
"Buffalo chips" were abundant, and free for the taking.
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Post by richm on Jun 3, 2024 8:56:32 GMT -5
The plains Indians had no forests, and no way to chop wood if they did. "Buffalo chips" were abundant, and free for the taking. Yes, but the energy production from burning poo was less than that of wood. Ya do whatcha gotta do. |
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Post by stc1993 on Jun 4, 2024 3:41:47 GMT -5
The plains Indians had no forests, and no way to chop wood if they did. "Buffalo chips" were abundant, and free for the taking. Yes, but the energy production from burning poo was less than that of wood. Ya do whatcha gotta do. I always read the Buffalo chips didn't smoke and give your position away to the bad guys in the story. |
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Post by richm on Jun 4, 2024 5:11:31 GMT -5
Yes, but the energy production from burning poo was less than that of wood. Ya do whatcha gotta do. I always read the Buffalo chips didn't smoke and give your position away to the bad guys in the story. Sounds like a good systematic advantage. |
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Post by luapnor on Jun 4, 2024 11:42:36 GMT -5
A couple of quotes below.....the rest linked at the bottom.
Whether this is correct I've no way to know.......
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It is relevant and more than ironic that the energy density of biomass fuels like straw and animal dung is twenty times greater than the today‘s best lithium-ion batteries, and gasoline has an energy density over 50 times greater.
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Using current technologies, half of the power produced by the battery pack of an electric vehicle goes to moving the batteries themselves, a basic problem for a mobile power source.
www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/05/30/the_many_problems_with_batteries_1035000.html I understood that gasoline is an extremely dense energy storage medium which will make replacing it very difficult. Subsidies in a singular tech will only stagnate the development of any true alternatives. |
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