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Post by JS84 on May 30, 2024 9:14:32 GMT -5
The FWC is excited to announce that they have published a series of dashboards designed to help plan your next quota hunt. There are dashboards for most quota hunt types (archery, general gun, spring turkey, etc.), and each has a map showing every WMA that offers that specific hunt type. To use the dashboards: - To start, visit MyFWC.com/Hunting/Quota
- Select the year that you want to view data from
- Scroll over to the area of the state you’re interested in hunting
- Click on any of the hunting areas in dark green to view the number of permits available for that area, the average number of preference points needed to be successful, the number of applications submitted for that hunt, and more.
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Post by olmucky on May 30, 2024 12:29:47 GMT -5
What’s Wierd is I didn’t get that email.
Buddy of mine sent me the info.
The new dashboard might just hose my mostly guaranteed draw now.
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Post by JS84 on May 30, 2024 14:44:23 GMT -5
Will help me find which properties folks believe have the best populations based on average perf points required to draw
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Post by JS84 on May 30, 2024 14:58:37 GMT -5
Wow Dinner island averages 8 perf points but there's a property that averages 14 on here. Highest I've found so far
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Post by One Man Gang on May 30, 2024 15:04:58 GMT -5
In order to make better use of my time will you guys please just tell me the best places to apply for?
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Post by 4ward on May 30, 2024 16:04:00 GMT -5
In order to make better use of my time will you guys please just tell me the best places to apply for? If you get drawn let us know, we can all collectively decipher the regulations for you also.
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Post by JS84 on May 30, 2024 16:11:37 GMT -5
I think one of the biggest surprises is that Orange Lake, one of the newest WMAs, already requires 7 perf points on average. What a joke
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Post by richm on May 31, 2024 6:52:53 GMT -5
I think I'm gonna have trouble with 3 point hunts after this. Sigh.
The web page is far from perfect. Just spent a few minutes and seen that my unit ranges from 1.5 to 4 pts depending on hunt.
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Post by meateater on May 31, 2024 8:54:19 GMT -5
i was able to get this info for last 4 years, i tried to tell people how bad it was but most dont care or didnt believe me. public land deer and turkey hunting is basically gone. now everyone can see it. if it take 5 or more years to get a chance to hunt it its not public land.
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Post by meateater on May 31, 2024 9:03:05 GMT -5
Wow Dinner island averages 8 perf points but there's a property that averages 14 on here. Highest I've found so far sad part of that is most permit holders only hunt saturday and half day sunday, then you got the no shows . fwc knows this also. fwc manages the hunter not the resource. good wildlife management would include lots of other things besides limiting access of hunters.
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Post by richm on Jun 1, 2024 8:11:33 GMT -5
i was able to get this info for last 4 years, i tried to tell people how bad it was but most dont care or didnt believe me. public land deer and turkey hunting is basically gone. now everyone can see it. if it take 5 or more years to get a chance to hunt it its not public land. It reflects the population and demand. That is hapoening across the country. More folks than places to hunt… Crazy that it takes so long to hunt certain areas. Our only saving grace is the ability to take a guest.
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Post by pinman on Jun 1, 2024 8:22:55 GMT -5
I havent looked at the info yet but if the PP average is used the numbers would be skewed higher because some might have a large number of PP due to prior returns. Applicants that got the permit with 4 PP are lumped into those who got it with an excess number of PP, say 8 for an average of 6. A more appropriate number would be the minimum number of PP for those who got the permit and how many at that level got one.
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Post by ogbohica on Jun 1, 2024 9:36:13 GMT -5
Long time ago I argued with a guy named Chuck about how quote hunts will become the new way for all the lands... nah that will never happen its only a select few.. BOHICA
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Post by richm on Jun 1, 2024 10:19:37 GMT -5
Long time ago I argued with a guy named Chuck about how quote hunts will become the new way for all the lands... nah that will never happen its only a select few.. BOHICA It is a real simple process actually. Everyone can hunt and someone gets butt hurt. Jimmy shot the deer Johnny wanted or someone sets up too tight while duck hunting. Too many aggressive guys. With 23 million folks to draw from in FL, it is easy for places to get overrun. Then the hunt quality or quantity thing pops up. This includes antler restrictions to increase the "quality of the bucks". Then quotas are assigned to provide the best blend of quality and quantity. Certain areas produce bigger deer so more folks head that way and the preference point requirements increase. Next thing you know it is a 5-8-10 point draw to hunt a popular area. Know a guy who had 12 points for a given hunt. They changed the hunt structure this year. Instead of 1 longer hunt, it is now multiple shorter hunts. Too bad he's got 12 years tied up in this... BOHICA
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Post by richm on Jun 1, 2024 10:22:08 GMT -5
I havent looked at the info yet but if the PP average is used the numbers would be skewed higher because some might have a large number of PP due to prior returns. Applicants that got the permit with 4 PP are lumped into those who got it with an excess number of PP, say 8 for an average of 6. A more appropriate number would be the minimum number of PP for those who got the permit and how many at that level got one. Even having the average helps. The problems are gonna pop up when they start putting harvest data down. We know certain areas have bigger deer and some areas produce a lot of deer. Most guys like myself don't have a clue as to what is what. Once the harvest stats and critter sizes can be put together, the points/tag game will go up a notch. Best thing they ever did was make tags nontransferable.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 1, 2024 14:52:46 GMT -5
Long time ago I argued with a guy named Chuck about how quote hunts will become the new way for all the lands... nah that will never happen its only a select few.. BOHICA Still hasn’t.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 1, 2024 14:56:17 GMT -5
I think “permits” is the word you were looking for.
Tags are different from permits.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 5, 2024 13:16:16 GMT -5
I think one of the biggest surprises is that Orange Lake, one of the newest WMAs, already requires 7 perf points on average. What a joke Orange Creek?
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Post by Crkr 23 on Jun 5, 2024 19:04:59 GMT -5
Probably orange hammock
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Post by JS84 on Jun 5, 2024 21:53:18 GMT -5
Yes Orange Hammock. Not sure how I made that mistake
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Post by cyclist on Jun 6, 2024 8:47:59 GMT -5
Yes Orange Hammock. Not sure how I made that mistake My grandmothers ranch backed up to this from the north all the way to SR72. Neat area.
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Post by meateater on Jun 6, 2024 10:18:12 GMT -5
Yes Orange Hammock. Not sure how I made that mistake place is just below average if i was to rate it against other south wmas. wasting more then 2 points to hunt that place, no thanks ill stick to iguanas and egytian geese in my backyard with the blowgun. seeing good sign of bufo toads and curly tail lizards so should be a good year.
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Post by nuthinfancy on Jun 7, 2024 12:31:51 GMT -5
It could be over double its size seen as it backs up to a big chunk of WMD property but my bad I forgot it’s not our land we just pay for it
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Post by meateater on Jun 10, 2024 9:48:25 GMT -5
It could be over double its size seen as it backs up to a big chunk of WMD property but my bad I forgot it’s not our land we just pay for it hey its still part of the florida 6 million public land acres fwc loves to say and print on everything, 6 million plus acres of public land thats awesome, now tell us how many acres is open to hunting without a quota every 3 years.
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Post by tampaspicer on Jun 10, 2024 11:52:07 GMT -5
It could be over double its size seen as it backs up to a big chunk of WMD property but my bad I forgot it’s not our land we just pay for it hey its still part of the florida 6 million public land acres fwc loves to say and print on everything, 6 million plus acres of public land thats awesome, now tell us how many acres is open to hunting without a quota every 3 years. I hear what you're saying. Unfortunately hunters are in the minority when it comes to what's important in the eyes of the public. It's not going to get any better with the number of people moving here.
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