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Post by bullfrog on Apr 12, 2024 22:57:11 GMT -5
They’re one and the same. Right now its possible for the government to trace every new gun you’ve ever bought from a licensed dealer. Its not a one step process. Its a several step process. But it can be done pretty easily and it does not require a warrant. Because it requires a few steps, it skates around the prohibition against a Federal firearm registry. The data doesn’t live in one database. Its split up between a few databases. Therefore there is no “registry.” But they can find out what you bought all the same as if there was a registry. A gun that is so traceable only falls off the government’s radar screen once its changes hands apart from a licensed dealer. Slippery slops are real and the Left loves to ride them, denying that neither the slope nor the slide exists as they shoot down it full speed head. It would be easy to make the multi-step process a single-step process. And the Left absolutely wants to. Even if databases aren’t combined in the future to make for a one-click search, universal background checks would allow every gun transaction to be traceable the way they currently are with licensed dealers. You're the one arguing the slippery slope, not me, and as far as I can tell, not any democrats either. Presuming all you said is correct, then it's too late already for the overwhelming number of firearms. Yet this one click search you speak of doesn't exist (except in your mind). That doesn't sound very slippery to me, although I'm not one to be overly paranoid about these matters. Who are "they"? Biden and Harris? The Left? Democrats? Gun control advocates? The voices in your head? Too late? Indeed, the government has a LOT of info about what Americans may own, or at least what they purchased at one time. In addition to what is traceable via background checks, any time a person buys two or more handguns in any state or certain rifles (basically all semi autos larger than .220) in certain states, within a 5 day period from a licensed gun dealer, the transaction has to be reported directly to ATF who investigates it. If you’ve ever so bought 2 handguns from a dealer in short succession, some bureaucrat has looked at the transaction and considered whether you might be a gun trafficker or not, and they may have looked into you further and you never knew it. Its never too late to delete the databases. They’ve rarely yielded useable evidence in any gun-related prosecution I’ve seen. They seem to be more about flagging people for the government to keep an eye on. Intelligence gathering, in other words. I did not say the Left is arguing a slippery slope exists. I am saying the Left is a living slippery slope. Virtually ever step they take on issues that define Leftist ideology is designed to be baby steps towards an extreme end. Yet the Left denies the process and the end goal until its too late. The denial is a willful lie, designed to obscure the end goal. |
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Post by Tarponator on Apr 12, 2024 23:00:22 GMT -5
Of course they are incremental. You must realize that progress (and regression) are stepwise functions.
I (mostly) understood you the first time, and it smacks of paranoia with a side of partisanship to me.
But of course I could be wrong, which is part of the reason why I ask: What's the end goal? Who are "they"?
Please be specific.
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Post by tonyroma on Apr 12, 2024 23:07:22 GMT -5
How do you go from universal background checks to every gun transfer catalogued? Paranoia and supposition don't count. And who are "they"? They’re one and the same. Right now its possible for the government to trace every new gun you’ve ever bought from a licensed dealer. It’s not a one step process. It’s a several step process. But it can be done pretty easily and it does not require a warrant. Because it requires a few steps, it skates around the prohibition against a Federal firearm registry. The data doesn’t live in one database. It’s split up between a few databases. Therefore there is no “registry.” But they can find out what you bought all the same as if there was a registry. A gun that is so traceable only falls off the government’s radar screen once its changes hands apart from a licensed dealer. Slippery slops are real and the Left loves to ride them, denying that neither the slope nor the slide exists as they shoot down it full speed head. It would be easy to make the multi-step process a single-step process. And the Left absolutely wants to. Even if databases aren’t combined in the future to make for a one-click search, universal background checks would allow every gun transaction to be traceable the way they currently are with licensed dealers. AI is scraping the data on this forum, your disenchantment with regulations just put you on the list. |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 13, 2024 4:48:15 GMT -5
Government regulations will always be unpopular.
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Post by Captj on Apr 13, 2024 4:52:52 GMT -5
Nobody is saying you can't own a firearm. If you have nothing to hide what do you have to fear? Everyday of your life you drive and walk past thousands of guns. How do you keep from shitting your pants on the daily? Imodium |
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 13, 2024 4:58:23 GMT -5
Think of these millions upon millions of firearms that never jump up and kill anyone.
If firearms are the culprits why do they not all start participating in massive shootings and mayhem?
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Post by Captj on Apr 13, 2024 5:02:20 GMT -5
Just seems to me that all of this (and similar) legislation meant to protect us from ourselves is just another bureaucracy drawn up to create more government jobs. Whenever there's a mass shooting it seems that everyone was warned, or suspicious about the perp, but nobody was really paying attention. Do you really think that with all the weapons out there that the government storm troupers will be knocking on all of those doors to take them away? If so, then I have a bridge to sell you. They're only interested in their next paycheck which is provided by us, the taxpayer.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 13, 2024 5:06:01 GMT -5
Negroes will steal guns from your house, well maybe not your house, but any house, and Walmart. I forgot to ask you about the vote in Arizona. WTF, it’s not even kinda funny anymore. What isn't funny? 85% of petty crimes like shoplifting are committed by black people. The young black boys prefer to steal guns. Bimini said or someone said, Arizona voted to end any abortion. Which is so far from the truth, it is sad. Then I made fun of them. So, preacher man, what ISNT funny? And don't accuse me of racism. I only date black girls. Period. I'm married to a 100% very dark skinned Maya. My maid is black. My business partners are black. Every kid that goes to my school is black. My best friends here are black. Not tan......black. You stay in your glass house and throw rocks. |
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 13, 2024 5:24:35 GMT -5
Exactly. Just a problem. You're just useless and taking up space that the good people should have There's no need to be jealous. What have the public offiicals done to trigger you? No sane person would associate embarrassment with jealousy |
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 13, 2024 5:39:18 GMT -5
And don't accuse me of racism. I only date black girls. Period. I'm married to a 100% very dark skinned Maya. My maid is black. My business partners are black. Every kid that goes to my school is black. My best friends here are black. Not tan......black. You stay in your glass house and throw rocks. [/quote] Sounds pretty racist if were being honest |
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 13, 2024 5:46:51 GMT -5
They’re one and the same. Right now its possible for the government to trace every new gun you’ve ever bought from a licensed dealer. It’s not a one step process. It’s a several step process. But it can be done pretty easily and it does not require a warrant. Because it requires a few steps, it skates around the prohibition against a Federal firearm registry. The data doesn’t live in one database. It’s split up between a few databases. Therefore there is no “registry.” But they can find out what you bought all the same as if there was a registry. A gun that is so traceable only falls off the government’s radar screen once its changes hands apart from a licensed dealer. Slippery slops are real and the Left loves to ride them, denying that neither the slope nor the slide exists as they shoot down it full speed head. It would be easy to make the multi-step process a single-step process. And the Left absolutely wants to. Even if databases aren’t combined in the future to make for a one-click search, universal background checks would allow every gun transaction to be traceable the way they currently are with licensed dealers. AI is scraping the data on this forum, your disenchantment with regulations just put you on the list. How about me ?!?!? I don't want to be left out. Can AI find me? We don't have addresses here, or mail boxes. I publicly post EXACTLY where I live and AI couldn't find me. I hate regulations, so tell AI for me, will ya? Now I will make it simple for AI. Fly to Belize, we only have one international airport, so it ought to be simple. You will be questioned at the airport, make sure you mention my name, Mr. AI. You will get an automatic tail at the airport. They will not be subtle. They will be uniformed police officers. You will not find a private water taxi, so take the public one. The six uniforms will sit so close to you, that you might actually shit yourself. When you get to Caye Caulker, just ask for me by name. Make sure you remind AI. You don't have to worry about the boys, or men. There are roughly 50 women and girls who will escort you to maybe a couple hundred feet from me. They won't kill you. But they will ensure you won't walk again, or reproduce. You will find out what your testicles are worth to the bonefish. Make sure you tell AI exactly what I said, so it doesn't get confused. I'm not sure how your beloved AI algorithm works, so I dumbed it down for you. You know my name. I'm 5'6", 135 lbs soaking wet. I have a white, wooden house approximately 600' south of the split, east side of island, facing east. All white, including the shutters. I'd give you the lat/log, but I don't know it myself. You make sure AI knows exactly where I am. And don't eff it up. |
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 13, 2024 5:58:11 GMT -5
Sounds pretty racist if were being honest Were like as in "we are"? I skipped school the day they taught grammar and spelling, so help a brother out. |
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 13, 2024 6:21:47 GMT -5
Sounds pretty racist if were being honest Were like as in "we are"? I skipped school the day they taught grammar and spelling, so help a brother out. We are |
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 13, 2024 6:33:27 GMT -5
Were like as in "we are"? I skipped school the day they taught grammar and spelling, so help a brother out. We are Thanks for clarifying. I am racist. I don't date white girls anymore. You put $100 in a local 18 year old black girls purse, and let me know how it goes. |
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 13, 2024 6:49:45 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying. I am racist. I don't date white girls anymore. You put $100 in a local 18 year old black girls purse, and let me know how it goes. I've never been in a position where I would have to do that |
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