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Post by Tarponator on Apr 12, 2024 13:30:57 GMT -5
Nobody is saying you can't own a firearm. If you have nothing to hide what do you have to fear? A future hostile government knowing what guns you’ve purchased and therefore presumably have in your possession. That seems rather paranoid. However, a system could be set up such that the government doesn't know what you've purchased.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 12, 2024 13:35:00 GMT -5
No background check required when they just steal guns out of the nearest F-150. Negroes will steal guns from your house, well maybe not your house, but any house, and Walmart. I forgot to ask you about the vote in Arizona.
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Post by Tarponator on Apr 12, 2024 13:41:14 GMT -5
White kids stole the gun from my Tahoe. It got returned by the police a few years later.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 12, 2024 14:02:39 GMT -5
White kids stole the gun from my Tahoe. It got returned by the police a few years later. I thought we had a truce. Every Chamberlain game we got robbed. Dangerous place. Dangerous neighborhood. Can't believe you stay there.
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Post by cadman on Apr 12, 2024 14:20:10 GMT -5
A future hostile government knowing what guns you’ve purchased and therefore presumably have in your possession. That seems rather paranoid. However, a system could be set up such that the government doesn't know what you've purchased. They don't know what you purchase or if you made a purchase. All they know is you did a background check to be sure the person was qualified to purchase a weapon. Once you pass the background check, the buyer details, by law, are deleted from the system. The only record is the one at the gun dealers location. I have no issue with background checks at gun shows. That would be easy for the operators of the show to set up a booth to run background checks on people wishing to purchase a weapon. Just need one FFL dealer and pay him to run the paperwork. Not sure how it would work at swap meets since they are less organized than a gun show. People just rent booths. Not everyone is there to look at and buy guns.
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Post by luapnor on Apr 12, 2024 15:00:12 GMT -5
Look at everyone that want to limit blacks from exercising their rights.
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Post by conchydong on Apr 12, 2024 15:07:11 GMT -5
There are often laws regarding feeding wild animals because they become dependent on the people feeding them. The same applies to people. Why would you want to progress and be successful when the government will take care of you? The Democratic Party wants to keep a segment of the population dependent on the government. It has been going on for so many generations now that I don’t think it could be stopped.
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 12, 2024 15:20:20 GMT -5
Nobody is saying you can't own a firearm. If you have nothing to hide what do you have to fear? Everyday of your life you drive and walk past thousands of guns. How do you keep from shitting your pants on the daily?
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 12, 2024 15:21:40 GMT -5
A future hostile government knowing what guns you’ve purchased and therefore presumably have in your possession. That seems rather paranoid. However, a system could be set up such that the government doesn't know what you've purchased. You're part of the problem if you're not sharp enough to understand the garbage our public officials have done to us all
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Post by Tarponator on Apr 12, 2024 16:21:26 GMT -5
That seems rather paranoid. However, a system could be set up such that the government doesn't know what you've purchased. You're part of the problem if you're not sharp enough to understand the garbage our public officials have done to us all What have they done? Please do tell us more!
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Post by garycoleco on Apr 12, 2024 17:07:04 GMT -5
You're part of the problem if you're not sharp enough to understand the garbage our public officials have done to us all What have they done? Please do tell us more! Exactly. Just a problem. You're just useless and taking up space that the good people should have
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Apr 12, 2024 17:39:36 GMT -5
I've gone to a couple of "estate sales" around here and they get your info and the firearms aren't released till your check comes back. I've never tried to buy one because they are all higher than giraffe twat . I mean if it was a family heirloom I coukd see it. But uncle bobs sears & roebuck 12ga that sat behind the seat of his 1975 D100 the past 40 years isn't worth the price of a new berreta
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Post by Stumpy on Apr 12, 2024 18:16:11 GMT -5
Read it before you talk about what you think it is.
The Department of Justice’s final rule implements the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act—the largest expansion of background checks since the Brady Bill became law.
The final rule makes clear when a person needs to become a licensed dealer and run background checks, and gives the Department of Justice additional tools to crack down on individuals illegally selling guns without background checks. Specifically, the final rule:
Lists the types of commercial activity indicating that a person must become a licensed dealer and run background checks, absent evidence showing they are in fact not engaged in the business of firearms dealing. For example, if a person is repetitively selling guns of the same or similar make and model within one year of their purchase, they are supposed to become a licensed dealer. If a person repetitively sells firearms within thirty days of purchasing those firearms, or selling firearms and tells potential buyers that they can acquire additional firearms for that buyer to purchase, the seller is supposed to become a licensed dealer. States that the gun show or online sale loopholes do not exist. If you are conducting business that in a brick-and-mortar store would require you to become a licensed dealer, you have to become a licensed dealer and run background checks. It does not matter whether you are dealing firearms at a gun show, online, in your home, in the trunk of a car, at a flea market, or anywhere else—you must obtain a license and run background checks results. Evidence that a person placed ads online or reserved a table at a gun show shows that the person is intending to profit from the sale. Prevents people from evading the licensing and background check requirements by claiming that they are just selling a few guns. The final rule clarifies that even a single firearm transaction may be sufficient to require a license, if there is other behavior to suggest commercial activity. For example, a person selling just one gun and then saying to others they are willing and able to purchase more firearms for resale may be required to obtain a license and run background checks. Prevents people from falsely claiming that guns are part of a personal collection in an attempt to evade the law. The statute explicitly states that making occasional sales of a firearm from a personal collection or liquidating collection does not require a federal firearms license or background checks. However, people have evaded the background check requirement by falsely claiming they are selling their personal collection. The final rule makes clear that a personal collection of firearms is limited to collections acquired for specific reasons like study; comparison; exhibition; or for a hobby, like hunting or sport shooting. A bona fide personal collection is not the same as business inventory. Closes the so-called firesale loophole. Gun dealers who have had their licenses revoked have sometimes then sold their former business inventory without running background checks. The final rule makes clear that a business inventory may not be transferred to a person’s personal collection after a license is revoked. Instead, a business could dispose of this inventory through another licensed seller who runs background checks.
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Post by pinman on Apr 12, 2024 18:41:45 GMT -5
So what is a transfer? Or a "sale"? If I buy a firearm for my son for Christmas and give it to him is that one? Or if my friend needs a shotgun for the duck season and I loan him one? The devil is in the details.....
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 12, 2024 18:50:38 GMT -5
So what is a transfer? Or a "sale"? If I buy a firearm for my son for Christmas and give it to him is that one? Or if my friend needs a shotgun for the duck season and I loan him one? The devil is in the details..... Yes it can be very confusing
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