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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 6:47:34 GMT -5
It is disheartening that persons are still equating violence with the actual firearms themselves. Most persons realize that the criminals and perpetrators of violence will be able to obtain weapons regardless of any laws on the books.
The only people that will be effected by such laws will be honest law abiding citizens.
The proposed laws in Colorado will have national implications as they are going to go against what has already been established as constitutional rights for Americans.
Common sense must prevail. We must go after the root cause of the violence. Mental illness and poor upbringing of children.
That’s my 2 cents.
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Post by cadman on Apr 1, 2024 7:18:10 GMT -5
Which proposed law are you referring to? The one banning guns in certain "sensitive" areas? I don't have an issue with that one. You can leave it locked in your car at those venues. they may need to refine the areas to get past a constitutional challenge. But do you want a guy legally carrying while he's getting drunk at a bar? I can understand government buildings also. Not sure you can restrict at public parks though. The courts will decide.
While I agree that criminals will still carry, hopefully when they get caught, it is more time they will spend in prison and not on the street.
Colorado has a few being proposed, need to know which one upsets you.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 7:27:07 GMT -5
Read the list. The sensitive areas law is the least egregious.
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Post by cadman on Apr 1, 2024 7:29:24 GMT -5
Read the list. The sensitive areas law is the least egregious. What list? Could you post the source of the list. My google search turns up a few new proposed laws, most that are already dead in the legislature. I tried to find a list and could not. I ask because a lot of times I see these reports put out by certain groups just looking to raise funds and the "proposed" laws are already dead issues.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 7:31:28 GMT -5
On way to job now. I’ll try later. Sorry
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Post by ferris1248 on Apr 1, 2024 9:14:16 GMT -5
On way to job now. I’ll try later. Sorry Quit texting and driving.
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Post by meateater on Apr 1, 2024 9:19:02 GMT -5
the voters of colorado voted for this guy knowing his HUSBAND was a full blown animal rights psycho creepy weirdo so when the wolves and mountain lions finish eating all the elk and deer hopefully they will start eating the voters before they move to other states and screw them up. they are getting what they deserve.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 9:34:26 GMT -5
Our country is being turned upside down.
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Post by Captj on Apr 1, 2024 10:14:55 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense?
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 10:23:32 GMT -5
Does one need a 15 round magazine for hunting? Or self defense? Around my area you definitely could use a 15 round magazine for self defense. Otherwise the “bad guys” would easily “out gun” you. Damn the local crazies all have converted Glocks and massive clips.
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 11:24:44 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 1, 2024 12:13:39 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. Definitely don't need a gun to sell insurance. Stupid customers don't need to be sold at gunpoint. A slick salesman is good enough.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Apr 1, 2024 12:33:48 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. You don’t need a gun - UNTIL - you need a gun. Sir, I have been robbed on multiple occasions and shot three times during robbery. If I did not have a firearm I would not be typing this today. I respect your decision to not own a firearm but I have to disagree with you on the matter. Most respectfully. Ken
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 13:07:31 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. As long as you understand that police have no duty to protect. Case law on police no duty to protectI'm smart enough to know where to go and how to act without the police looking over my shoulder.
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Post by misterjr on Apr 1, 2024 13:08:06 GMT -5
I live smack in the middle of 3.5M people (about 2.5 miles from Parkland school), don't own a gun, never needed one. You don’t need a gun - UNTIL - you need a gun. Sir, I have been robbed on multiple occasions and shot three times during robbery. If I did not have a firearm I would not be typing this today. I respect your decision to not own a firearm but I have to disagree with you on the matter. Most respectfully. Ken You should move.
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