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Post by bswiv on Mar 27, 2024 11:15:52 GMT -5
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Post by richm on Mar 27, 2024 12:13:05 GMT -5
I saw something like this before.
Have considered getting a lease drafted up and issued to my son-in-law for my place and having my dad issue me a lease for his place. Just in case something like that happens.
That way can just whip out the lease and say I been leasing this place for x years from the owner. I didn't sublease.
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Post by stc1993 on Mar 27, 2024 13:25:40 GMT -5
He said he changed the locks. That's illegal in some states. That's what the homeowner was arrested for in NY.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Mar 27, 2024 13:28:34 GMT -5
My cousin owns a piece of commercial realestate. His renter stopped paying rent and he went over and changed the locks. The judge did not like that and spanked his hand. The kicker is her husband is on the lease as well and also rents another property from him. He's been there several years never late and never a problem. I told him I bet the husband doesn't have a clue his wife hasn't been paying the rent
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 27, 2024 13:38:06 GMT -5
Florida distinguishes between a tenant and a squatter. Someone who has a lease agreement who quits paying their rent isn’t a squatter in the same way a lot of the recent news about squatters is talking about.
The squatters in question are people who see a piece of property they want, move in, and then claim “mine now because I possess it. Deeds and legal owner be damned.”
Yes, that can actually award them the property sometimes. Its legal thievery and has no reason to exist in today’s world.
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Post by cadman on Mar 27, 2024 14:01:51 GMT -5
If I leave my house come back and someone is in my house, they get shot. Plain and simple. Florida recognizes the Castle Doctrine, which means you have the right to use deadly force to protect your house.
fuck em.
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Post by madm002 on Mar 27, 2024 14:27:18 GMT -5
Florida distinguishes between a tenant and a squatter. Someone who has a lease agreement who quits paying their rent isn’t a squatter in the same way a lot of the recent news about squatters is talking about. The squatters in question are people who see a piece of property they want, move in, and then claim “mine now because I possess it. Deeds and legal owner be damned.” Yes, that can actually award them the property sometimes. Its legal thievery and has no reason to exist in today’s world. So what is the remedy Bullfrog? How do people that have multiple properties or a property that is vacant protect themselves?
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Post by richm on Mar 27, 2024 15:30:36 GMT -5
Florida distinguishes between a tenant and a squatter. Someone who has a lease agreement who quits paying their rent isn’t a squatter in the same way a lot of the recent news about squatters is talking about. The squatters in question are people who see a piece of property they want, move in, and then claim “mine now because I possess it. Deeds and legal owner be damned.” Yes, that can actually award them the property sometimes. Its legal thievery and has no reason to exist in today’s world. So what is the remedy Bullfrog? How do people that have multiple properties or a property that is vacant protect themselves? Squatter LawDeSantis made it easier.
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 27, 2024 16:55:46 GMT -5
Florida distinguishes between a tenant and a squatter. Someone who has a lease agreement who quits paying their rent isn’t a squatter in the same way a lot of the recent news about squatters is talking about. The squatters in question are people who see a piece of property they want, move in, and then claim “mine now because I possess it. Deeds and legal owner be damned.” Yes, that can actually award them the property sometimes. Its legal thievery and has no reason to exist in today’s world. So what is the remedy Bullfrog? How do people that have multiple properties or a property that is vacant protect themselves? I do not know what the governor has just signed. Prior to whatever change in the law that has just happened, squatting in Florida was called “adverse possession.” Rarely did it result in someone getting an entire property or home. Usually it allows someone to get a little more extra property. Suppose your neighbor puts his fence 5 feet on your side. You know the fence is on your side. For 7 years you let it go. You didn’t give him permission but you haven’t kicked him off either. For the 7 years he maintains the extra 5 feet by mowing and watering it. After 7 years, he can start the process to make the extra 5 feet his. The 7 year requirement was the biggest factor that saved property owners. 7 years is a long time for someone to openly possess your property. That’s why it rarely happened to residences but more commonly happened in minor border disputes.
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Post by cadman on Mar 27, 2024 17:40:20 GMT -5
I do not know what the governor has just signed. Prior to whatever change in the law that has just happened, squatting in Florida was called “adverse possession.” Rarely did it result in someone getting an entire property or home. Usually it allows someone to get a little more extra property. Suppose your neighbor puts his fence 5 feet on your side. You know the fence is on your side. For 7 years you let it go. You didn’t give him permission but you haven’t kicked him off either. For the 7 years he maintains the extra 5 feet by mowing and watering it. After 7 years, he can start the process to make the extra 5 feet his. The 7 year requirement was the biggest factor that saved property owners. 7 years is a long time for someone to openly possess your property. That’s why it rarely happened to residences but more commonly happened in minor border disputes. I thought you had to pay the taxes on the property as well. Possession, improvement, and pay taxes. In the old days tax collectors didn't care if taxes were paid twice, these days with computers it makes it difficult.
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 27, 2024 18:29:17 GMT -5
I do not know what the governor has just signed. Prior to whatever change in the law that has just happened, squatting in Florida was called “adverse possession.” Rarely did it result in someone getting an entire property or home. Usually it allows someone to get a little more extra property. Suppose your neighbor puts his fence 5 feet on your side. You know the fence is on your side. For 7 years you let it go. You didn’t give him permission but you haven’t kicked him off either. For the 7 years he maintains the extra 5 feet by mowing and watering it. After 7 years, he can start the process to make the extra 5 feet his. The 7 year requirement was the biggest factor that saved property owners. 7 years is a long time for someone to openly possess your property. That’s why it rarely happened to residences but more commonly happened in minor border disputes. I thought you had to pay the taxes on the property as well. Possession, improvement, and pay taxes. In the old days tax collectors didn't care if taxes were paid twice, these days with computers it makes it difficult. The traditional common law requirements are : 1. Open possession 2. Hostile possession 3. Exclusive possession. 4. 7 continuous years of possession under the above conditions. That’s generally what Florida has followed. I am not sure when taxes became dispositive, but I do see that in 2011 the statute changed to make the tax requirement for adverse possession more defined. From that point forward a specific claim and procedure had to be followed to pay the taxes. I’m not sure how adverse possession could ever happen in a case where the adverse possession claim is over a mere 5 feet of land where the only outstanding element is payment of taxes. I imagine you can’t pay taxes on just 5 feet unless the adjoining landowner is totally absentee
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Mar 27, 2024 18:58:56 GMT -5
I can't fathom owning a home or property that you aren't even aware that someone could move into it and be there for months before you know. It's wild to be.
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Post by johngalt on Mar 27, 2024 19:29:30 GMT -5
I can't fathom owning a home or property that you aren't even aware that someone could move into it and be there for months before you know. It's wild to be. I am skeptical of those TV commercials that push the deed/title insurance. If it’s that easy to steal a home, there are some real problems.
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Post by richm on Mar 27, 2024 20:06:51 GMT -5
I can't fathom owning a home or property that you aren't even aware that someone could move into it and be there for months before you know. It's wild to be. Lot of snowbirds down here. Depends on relationship w neighbors and how often someone checks the place. A lawnmower man is your best friend. Cheap security in some cases.
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Post by tonyroma on Mar 27, 2024 20:16:48 GMT -5
So in Florida, if I find an old single wide in the woods, mow the lawn and do improvements for 7 years it’s mine?
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