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Post by meateater on Mar 6, 2024 12:33:13 GMT -5
so is sitting in your truck at a trail head or at locked gate first give you first dibs on a area 1/2 mile away or more in the woods, so you have cameras in the area, scouted it 5 times. seems this is the new florida turkey rule for some guys. my buddy was approached at a trailhead at the locked gate at 4.45am by a guy who slept in his truck all night wanting to go over dropped pins and google earth to show him where he,s gonna be hunting and that he,s been running cameras for the past month and would like a little courtesy, this was during the youth hunt at dinner island. week later same exact thing happens to me out in picayune strand at 4 am , 2 guys sitting in there truck jump out as soon as i pull in, where are you hunting,,we been scouting, let me show you on my phone where were going, i said dont bother i dont care, if my decoys are set up and my ass is in my chair before you guys get out there you will see my red headlamp hanging from a tree limb bout 6ft high, you can go elsewhere or we can hunt together but sitting in your truck dont lock down areas. does sitting in your truck now deserve any courtesy.
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Post by tampaspicer on Mar 6, 2024 12:41:49 GMT -5
It's public land and whoever is setup first gets that spot. Courtesy is going to another spot if the spot you wanted to hunt is taken. If they don't respect that then I guess nobody gets the spot. I'm going to walk around the entire time talking to the critters and ruin everyone's hunt. LOL
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Post by Crkr 23 on Mar 6, 2024 13:02:40 GMT -5
The gate attendant is going to become a flag man, "Gentleman, start your engines". Lol 🤣.
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Post by One Man Gang on Mar 6, 2024 13:10:51 GMT -5
Same thing happened to me at Seminole Ranch about 16 years ago. We worked it out but mostly because none of us were hunting the same place.
I think this kind of BS is overflowing from the duck hunting googans who sleep in the marsh to hold "their" spot. You know, those assholes who are willing to shoot at you if you don't leave and respect their place. Dumb shit like this is ruining the sport.
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 6, 2024 14:55:36 GMT -5
I’m at the point where I now believe nothing ties up public land. It would be stupid for one hunter to walk up on another and refuse to yield to the one that got there first. But “got there” means being in the woods at the spot. But otherwise everyone is free to go where they want when they want.
That’s a 180° from where I used to be. I used to be the guy that slept in the truck. But I never had to fight with anyone. No one cared enough about my spots to fight with me over them. They probably just slipped in when I wasn’t there.
My one rule, besides be safe, is don’t sit in someone else’s stand. Sit next to the stand or under the stand but not in it. The WMA land is everyone’s property for the purpose of utilizing it. But the stand still belongs to someone else.
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Post by ogbohica on Mar 6, 2024 15:16:09 GMT -5
I just call em away with that sweet talk I got
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Post by swampdog on Mar 6, 2024 16:07:46 GMT -5
I politely tell them I appreciate the info and I’ll be as quiet and courteous as I can on the way to my spot. I may mention that I scouted the area over the last umpteen years. I’ll also wish them luck and tell them to be safe above all else.
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Post by tonyroma on Mar 6, 2024 18:00:37 GMT -5
I do my best not to get into heated confrontations with people with loaded firearms. This happened to me at big shoals last year. He was there already , I asked him which way he was planning on going and I went in the opposite direction. I try to do most of my WMA hunting on weekdays. It reduces human contact drastically.
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Post by Stumpy on Mar 6, 2024 18:21:25 GMT -5
With me it is area drivin, unless ive roosted a bird. I hunt this one trail head that has 2 fire rds Either road will take you into miles and miles of pine, cypress and hammocks.... I don't care how many trucks are parked, I park and go hunt. No one has ever tried claim the area as their spot. Rare to see any other hunters. Most walk up and down the roads with their slate/pot calls.
Most other parking spots I like to hunt, if someone is there I move on to some other spot.
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Post by 4ward on Mar 6, 2024 18:55:25 GMT -5
Any “courtesy “ depends on the “etiquette “ of the other guy. Don’t play some phone map games, Don’t tell me you deserve it more, Don’t pretend to be my friend to get your way. I’m a pretty nice guy(usually too nice) but, play games with me and find out.
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Post by ogbohica on Mar 6, 2024 21:14:25 GMT -5
Couple of men on this post... couple of not
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Post by meateater on Mar 7, 2024 8:51:26 GMT -5
i go by your already set up in the WOODS, not sitting in your truck because your scared of the dark and mosquitos. i always move on if someone beats me to a area, always , but this sitting in your truck then expecting guys to go somewhere else will never fly with me. this goes for the dipshits that set up decoys on the main trail then shine you as your walking to a area half mile away.
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Post by meateater on Mar 7, 2024 9:29:17 GMT -5
It's public land and whoever is setup first gets that spot. Courtesy is going to another spot if the spot you wanted to hunt is taken. If they don't respect that then I guess nobody gets the spot. I'm going to walk around the entire time talking to the critters and ruin everyone's hunt. LOL i did that exact thing bout 10 years ago, at dinner island. i roosted 2 gobblers friday night, made a little ground blind in the dark that night, snuck in there at 4.30 am next morning had my decoys set up in a little burn 30 yds from my blind, decoys bout 80 yds from exact tree they where roosted in and at 6.am i could hear couple guys talking in spanish i think walking my way with there flashlights on, i flashed my light at them, they stopped , talked to each other then set up 75 yds parallel to the tree birds where in and diagonally 125yds from me. if birds flew down into the burn we would be shooting each others direction so i got up walked directly to tree they were roosted in and spooked about 15 birds outa the tree , stood around talking to my buddy with headlamps on then when it got light out i walked into the burn grabbed my decoys and went to another spot after i wished them good luck so loud hunters a mile away could have heard me. nice thing was we called one in at 11 am later that morning 2 miles away. public land i still love it.
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Post by TRTerror on Mar 7, 2024 12:30:59 GMT -5
Glad I got Turkeys in my back yard.... I also only hunt Monday thru Friday.
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Post by One Man Gang on Mar 7, 2024 13:24:59 GMT -5
Sometimes sleeping overnight in the bush isn't even good enough! This reminds me of the time everyone knew about a couple big gobblers that were strutting like clockwork every morning for weeks in the first field off tomato field grade. I went in there two days before the opener one morning and scared them away... then scared them some more... until I was sure they might not come back. I took note of where I last saw them calm down and snuck back out. I went back the next morning and was thrilled to see zero birds on the first field and went back home. Opening morning I got the story how a buddy I knew from Miami crept into the first field and went to sleep trying to be first in and first out. He told me two others came in before 0300 and he pushed them off the area since he was there first. As he settled in for opening morning glory he was strangely greeted by silence and no birds. I know this only because his group told me the story in their camp when I stopped in to show them a bird I killed about a mile away. Likely one of the birds everyone from Dade to Martin County was planning on easily killing. Sometimes a man has to know how to make lemonade out lemons.
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Post by richm on Mar 7, 2024 15:26:23 GMT -5
Being first in line to enter the area works at MINWR - guys will wait 3 days to hunt ducks. I could see being first at a trailhead or locked gate as being an advantage in the predawn race to the hunting spot. Doesn't mean yer gonna get there first, but gives you an advantage when the gate gets unlocked or the legal entry time arrives.
My question for them is - What if someone beats you to the special X in the woods? Whattaya do then?
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Post by tampaspicer on Mar 7, 2024 15:48:39 GMT -5
Being first in line to enter the area works at MINWR - guys will wait 3 days to hunt ducks. I could see being first at a trailhead or locked gate as being an advantage in the predawn race to the hunting spot. Doesn't mean yer gonna get there first, but gives you an advantage when the gate gets unlocked or the legal entry time arrives. My question for them is - What if someone beats you to the special X in the woods? Whattaya do then? Shit like this was why I stopped hunting public land in Florida. Waaaaaaaaaaaay to much bull shit to hunt shitty land. Started hunting lease and out of state public land and never had any issues. Florida is by far the worst state I've hunted in on public and private land. Only place I hunted in Florida that was worth a damn was Tampa Palms back in the 90's.
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Post by One Man Gang on Mar 7, 2024 17:15:53 GMT -5
If someone beats me to the X, I just move on along to plan B.
I will give as good as I get though. If you're a jerk I'm going to probably be overly noisy when I move off, not move far or fast enough, and generally fuck your hunt up. If you're decent, I'll move off quietly, not interfere, wish you luck, and even help drag your deer or gear. I will escalate things as far as needed unless my kids are with me.
Some of the worst behavior I've ever seen has been at minwr and the STAs while duck hunting. Assholes chasing "trophys" were always the worst. At least a noob has a excuse. Seasoned hunters trying to act like some fucking big name trophy hunter on TV have no excuse. This is how the ruination of ethics and etiquette in the hunting community started and it ultimately led to the never ending slippery slope of restrictions. Those are the facts.
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Post by richm on Mar 7, 2024 17:33:00 GMT -5
Being first in line to enter the area works at MINWR - guys will wait 3 days to hunt ducks. I could see being first at a trailhead or locked gate as being an advantage in the predawn race to the hunting spot. Doesn't mean yer gonna get there first, but gives you an advantage when the gate gets unlocked or the legal entry time arrives. My question for them is - What if someone beats you to the special X in the woods? Whattaya do then? Shit like this was why I stopped hunting public land in Florida. Waaaaaaaaaaaay to much bull shit to hunt shitty land. Started hunting lease and out of state public land and never had any issues. Florida is by far the worst state I've hunted in on public and private land. Only place I hunted in Florida that was worth a damn was Tampa Palms back in the 90's. It is amazing how hard people will work to mess with others when hunting FL public. I had 2 cams up 10-12 ft in cabbage palms and both got spotted! And messed with. The joys of public land. This year I'ma gonna put em higher with a steel box and cable around em.
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Post by ben10 on Mar 14, 2024 20:17:53 GMT -5
Thoughts, decoys on public?
Mainly asking for turkey, however all can apply. What are your thoughts?
I like the idea, however I’m newish to hunting, and I’d like to not get shot at.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Mar 15, 2024 5:55:26 GMT -5
Personally, I don't care for them. I've heard too many stories of birds being spooked by them, especially on a high pressured area. I prefer to have some sort of barrier between me and the turkey where they can't see where I'm calling from, like a bend in the road or little thick area. I hate to fool with birds in a field, yeah you can see them but they also see farther too. You would think decoys would solve that but it goes against their nature, the hen is supposed to go to the displaying gobbler. Anyhow, that's just my opinion and besides that a decoy is just one more thing to drag through the woods. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Post by swampdog on Mar 15, 2024 8:21:03 GMT -5
If I’m in a thicker area with a kid, I might set a decoy up so if the gob shows up he may check the decoy out before he has a chance to see us, or gets suspicious and leaves. Nothing like a big gobbler that slips in unannounced at 5 yds and freezes. It rattled the young folks. In my experience, if he spots that hen decoy from any distance and it doesn’t move, he will usually hit the trail before coming into range. I never use one except hunting with a newby. Good luck folks.
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Post by meateater on Mar 15, 2024 9:12:52 GMT -5
my best hunting buddy never uses them and kills a turkey or 2 every year, me i use one every time i set up unless im stalking and bushwacking one, single hen most times, 2 hens once in a while. gave up on jake or gobbler decoys as ive had a few gobblers hang up outa range, 4 to be exact . all public land. last weeks gobbler beat up the hen decoy for a minute then made love to it for a minute then beat it up again knocking it over , he got a little spooked so thats when i shot him.
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