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Post by billybob on Mar 4, 2024 12:46:52 GMT -5
I always tighten the pressure plate bolts a little at a time So to gently evenly compress it
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Post by cadman on Mar 17, 2024 14:21:13 GMT -5
Well I can now answer my own question about why you don't change a clutch by pulling the engine. Pulling the engine was easy, changing out the bushing, clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, a piece of cake. Trying to line up that damn engine onto the transmission as heavy as it is with the hoist, is impossible. After fighting with it for 2 hours, I gave up. Tomorrow I will drop the driveshafts, unbolt the transmission, and pull it back out of the way to install the engine. Then use the engine hoist to line up and re-install the transmission. should have thought of that to begin with. I never even thought how simple it would be to remove and install the transmission without the tub in the way. Some days you have to make stupid mistakes to learn the lesson the hard way.
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Post by GaryS on Mar 18, 2024 6:48:03 GMT -5
The only way I ever changed a clutch was with the engine removed. Don't you have body off? Taking transmission out will mean you will have engine and transmission twisting and turning instead of just the engine. You have to go slow, get the shaft in and turn the engine until splines line up. Did you check to make sure you had the right bushing before you installed it?
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Post by cadman on Mar 18, 2024 7:00:12 GMT -5
Checked everything. Once I mount the engine to the frame, the only floating piece will be the tranny.
You would be the first guy I know who pulls the engine to change a clutch normally. I have pulled and installed engines years ago, but this shit ain't working. I can't even get the damn engine to line up to get the shaft past the pressure plate, much less near the pilot bearing.
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Post by slough on Mar 18, 2024 7:29:54 GMT -5
Have installed a lot of standard shift engines with trans. in place. Most with new clutches. With a hoist, make sure you have several links of chain between engine and hoist. This way you can rock engine side to side to get splines lined up. Have trans in gear so the splines are not turning .
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Post by swampdog on Mar 18, 2024 7:54:34 GMT -5
I’m like you Cad it has been many years since I attempted heavy mechanic work. We pulled a lot of engines with both manual and auto transmissions and I don’t remember the degree of difficulty with what you’re experiencing. We changed a few under the proverbial “shade tree” with no issues. There was always at least two of us helping, so that can make a difference. Good luck!
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Post by gogittum on Mar 18, 2024 10:15:34 GMT -5
Did you use an alignment tool to center the clutch plate ?? I found that an old input shaft works better than a plastic tool - much less slop and more precise. 1/8" or even 1/16" makes a huge difference.
Make very sure the pilot bearing is the correct size to match the input shaft...and grease it liberally.
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Post by swampdog on Mar 18, 2024 12:44:53 GMT -5
You got this Cad. It’s just like putting socks on a rooster…
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Post by cadman on Mar 28, 2024 10:16:51 GMT -5
Well, it was the pilot bushing, nobody had one locally, so I had to order one and wait a week. I must have damaged it installing it or something. I did pull the transmission to install the clutch and it went in pretty quickly with the new pilot bushing. I changed the rear shocks while the body was off. I can get the front with the tub on before installing the front fenders. At least I can return the engine hoist bad to Cyclist now.
I was glad I pulled the transmission as the u-joints were rusty pieces of junk and the transmission mount was broken.
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Post by cyclist on Mar 28, 2024 11:24:06 GMT -5
Man you gotta take some pics Cad! I think its illegal to talk car shit without photos...
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Post by billybob on Mar 28, 2024 11:26:11 GMT -5
Cool Cad. Keep up the good work
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Post by cadman on Mar 28, 2024 13:56:08 GMT -5
Man you gotta take some pics Cad! I think its illegal to talk car shit without photos... You want pictures of rusty u joints? I may take a photo of the old and new transmission mount and attempt to explain the redneck engineering they performed to fix a broken mount rather than buy a new $20 mount.
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