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Post by nuthinfancy on Feb 13, 2024 14:54:27 GMT -5
In the WMA brochures, it lists the number of each type of quota permit given out. For example it would say, archery -50 no cost quota permits for EACH of 4 hunts. Does this mean there are 50 permits given out for each hunt, or 50 permits spread out over the handful of hunt dates they offer?
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Post by james243 on Feb 13, 2024 15:20:57 GMT -5
My understanding is your first scenario is correct: 50 permits for each set of dates- just like it says.
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Post by JS84 on Feb 13, 2024 15:56:19 GMT -5
The first scenario is correct. 50 permits issued per hunt, with 4 hunts, for a total of 200 permits for that season. However, there could be as many as 400 possible individual hunters though if each brought a guest.
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Post by osprey11 on Feb 13, 2024 16:11:35 GMT -5
The first scenario is correct. 50 permits issued per hunt, with 4 hunts, for a total of 200 permits for that season. However, there could be as many as 400 possible individual hunters though if each brought a guest. Could be alot more depending if it is exempt or not. |
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Post by JS84 on Feb 13, 2024 16:28:39 GMT -5
You are correct. I overlooked that aspect as well.
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Post by meateater on Feb 13, 2024 16:59:50 GMT -5
The first scenario is correct. 50 permits issued per hunt, with 4 hunts, for a total of 200 permits for that season. However, there could be as many as 400 possible individual hunters though if each brought a guest. Could be alot more depending if it is exempt or not. my old goat friends still buy there hunting license cause most wmas dont allow exemptions so you still gotta get picked in the regular draw anyway for turkey, still have not met a exempt florida old fart on a quota hunt for turkey, plenty of rich dorks and homos from other states but not 1 florida exempt hunter during turkey season. |
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Post by One Man Gang on Feb 13, 2024 17:11:46 GMT -5
Definitely a lot of rich dorks, homos, and other undesirables from other states out there trying to get a Osceola these days.
I was just notified for the umpteenth time this season that my efforts to secure a turkey permit were UNSUCCESSFUL. Looking like I may have to pull one off the river or out of good ol' Corbett this year. Either that or I'm going to get back into something a true free man can still enjoy; frog gigging.
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Post by meateater on Feb 13, 2024 17:49:05 GMT -5
Definitely a lot of rich dorks, homos, and other undesirables from other states out there trying to get a Osceola these days. I was just notified for the umpteenth time this season that my efforts to secure a turkey permit were UNSUCCESSFUL. Looking like I may have to pull one off the river or out of good ol' Corbett this year. Either that or I'm going to get back into something a true free man can still enjoy; frog gigging. my buddies kid got 19 the other night in the bombing range, from foot, just wading out by sportsman crossing he was spotting them during duck season which he also does by foot over there so him and his buddy gave it a shot one night. ahh to be 25 and fearless again. freaking coot takes off in the dark im running for the levee. |
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 13, 2024 17:49:45 GMT -5
Could be alot more depending if it is exempt or not. my old goat friends still buy there hunting license cause most wmas dont allow exemptions so you still gotta get picked in the regular draw anyway for turkey, still have not met a exempt florida old fart on a quota hunt for turkey, plenty of rich dorks and homos from other states but not 1 florida exempt hunter during turkey season. If you are over 65 you do not need a hunting license or management area stamp to apply for quota permits. I'm hunting the first 2 days of spring turkey on an exempt hunt. |
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Post by richm on Feb 13, 2024 19:34:19 GMT -5
Could be alot more depending if it is exempt or not. my old goat friends still buy there hunting license cause most wmas dont allow exemptions so you still gotta get picked in the regular draw anyway for turkey, still have not met a exempt florida old fart on a quota hunt for turkey, plenty of rich dorks and homos from other states but not 1 florida exempt hunter during turkey season. I know an old guy who does exempt hunts. Deer hog turkey. Hes 81 or so. |
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Post by JS84 on Feb 14, 2024 7:25:15 GMT -5
If I'm still able at an exempt age, I'll certainly be getting at em
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Post by swampdog on Feb 14, 2024 8:33:19 GMT -5
I hunt as often as I can and as long as my mind and stamina can take it. Wife is starting to be concerned about my solo adventures and may put a tracking collar with control features on me to locate and make me stop.
I do exempt and apply for non-exempt returns.
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Post by meateater on Feb 14, 2024 9:24:00 GMT -5
you have better odds getting picked in the regular drawing with a hunting license vs entering the drawing as exempt. let me explain it to some of you old coots, outa lets say 45 permits how many are set a side for exempts who knows 3 maybe . i know over 65 no license needed but also know 3 guys in there 70s who told me much better chance entering as a licensed hunter vs exempt. talking quotas not first nine day stuff. as i said i have never met a dinosaur who got a exempt turkey quota.
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Post by meateater on Feb 14, 2024 9:30:31 GMT -5
I hunt as often as I can and as long as my mind and stamina can take it. Wife is starting to be concerned about my solo adventures and may put a tracking collar with control features on me to locate and make me stop. I do exempt and apply for non-exempt returns. wife got me a emergency locator thingee 5 years ago, one of my boys has my phone info stored in his phone so he can find my phone anytime. wife said she needs the body for insurance reasons, if coyotes and buzzards eat me its gonna take a while to get the money using dental records and dna she said. she really loves me. |
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Post by daveyc on Feb 14, 2024 11:07:56 GMT -5
is that confirmed by fwc that the system is required to issue less quota permits to resident exempt hunters ? ------the system should be changed to allow exempt hunters to be able to receive a quota for wmas, that allow exemptions, so that they can have a quest permit for assistance, etc
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 14, 2024 11:34:41 GMT -5
is that confirmed by fwc that the system is required to issue less quota permits to resident exempt hunters ? ------the system should be changed to allow exempt hunters to be able to receive a quota for wmas, that allow exemptions, so that they can have a quest permit for assistance, etc If you are exempt and you apply for a exempt hunt the system will kick out your application to the exempt hunt... you do not get a guest quota to a hunt you are exempt to hunt....you do not get a paper quota to a exempt hunt. As a exempt hunter when you show up at a wma that allows exemptions, you just tell the gate attendant your exempt....no gate attendant at wma, drive in and hunt. |
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Post by JS84 on Feb 14, 2024 12:21:45 GMT -5
Makes sense. Awarded hunters can bring a guest, an exempt hunter gets no guest as the exemption is for the individual.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 14, 2024 12:53:40 GMT -5
As an exempt hunter, I have had no more problems drawing quota hunts than my younger friends, maybe I'm just lucky. I have even been tagged out before but still had a quota for an upcoming hunt and carried a guest. I just went and observed the hunt. If I couldn't find a guest, I turned the permit in.
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Post by meateater on Feb 14, 2024 13:14:17 GMT -5
is that confirmed by fwc that the system is required to issue less quota permits to resident exempt hunters ? ------the system should be changed to allow exempt hunters to be able to receive a quota for wmas, that allow exemptions, so that they can have a quest permit for assistance, etc If you are exempt and you apply for a exempt hunt the system will kick out your application to the exempt hunt... you do not get a guest quota to a hunt you are exempt to hunt....you do not get a paper quota to a exempt hunt. As a exempt hunter when you show up at a wma that allows exemptions, you just tell the gate attendant your exempt....no gate attendant at wma, drive in and hunt. yes, but nothing to stop a 103 year old ww2 veteran from buying a hunting license and applying in the general regular drawing, building up preference points same as other licensed hunters. guys i know say its much better odds this way getting a permit since whether or not the wma allows exemptions or not you still have a chance. deer hunting i dont know how it works but if you want to turkey hunt a prime wma your better off buying the license and entering the drawing that way. being exempt might save you 60 bucks but the odds of you getting picked are very slim. from what ive been told a certain number of permits go to licensed florida hunters, certain amount to outa state hunters and a certain amount go to exempt /over 65 who did not buy a license. |
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Post by meateater on Feb 14, 2024 13:18:42 GMT -5
As an exempt hunter, I have had no more problems drawing quota hunts than my younger friends, maybe I'm just lucky. I have even been tagged out before but still had a quota for an upcoming hunt and carried a guest. I just went and observed the hunt. If I couldn't find a guest, I turned the permit in. depends on what wma your trying to hunt and season, and yea your lucky i guess, turkey season in south zone at any decent wma takes 3 plus years to get picked. |
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 14, 2024 14:21:09 GMT -5
The problem that y'all have in the south is too many people putting in for too few hunts. Throwing in the non residents that believe the only place to kill an Osceola is south Florida, y'all are fighting a losing battle.
Personally, I can't tell the difference in the enjoyment of hunting a bird with black wings versus one with white wings, they are all good.
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 14, 2024 16:15:42 GMT -5
If you are exempt and you apply for a exempt hunt the system will kick out your application to the exempt hunt... you do not get a guest quota to a hunt you are exempt to hunt....you do not get a paper quota to a exempt hunt. As a exempt hunter when you show up at a wma that allows exemptions, you just tell the gate attendant your exempt....no gate attendant at wma, drive in and hunt. yes, but nothing to stop a 103 year old ww2 veteran from buying a hunting license and applying in the general regular drawing, building up preference points same as other licensed hunters. guys i know say its much better odds this way getting a permit since whether or not the wma allows exemptions or not you still have a chance. deer hunting i dont know how it works but if you want to turkey hunt a prime wma your better off buying the license and entering the drawing that way. being exempt might save you 60 bucks but the odds of you getting picked are very slim. from what ive been told a certain number of permits go to licensed florida hunters, certain amount to outa state hunters and a certain amount go to exempt /over 65 who did not buy a license. Me, as an exempt hunter, when I apply for non exempt permits, be it deer or turkey, if I am not drawn on the 1st phase I get a preference point just like everyone else not drawn. I was drawn for spring turkey wma local to me, it took 2 preference points. I've picked up redraws also, here and there... I'm not sure where you get your info on permit draws, but I feel like I'm in the system like everyone else.. |
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Post by tater on Feb 14, 2024 17:54:52 GMT -5
Screw Florida and all the rules. I am about to be 65 and haven't hunted Fl. In many years. Been here all my life, just do like me and a couple friends do. Get off your wallet and find a piece of land in bama. You will be happy and can kill all the deer you want. Just my opinion
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 14, 2024 18:09:26 GMT -5
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 14, 2024 19:10:21 GMT -5
So far as know, the number of non resident quota permits are not restricted, so I could not imagine the number of permits for exempt hunters be restricted whether they bought a license or not.
Just a reasonable assumption on my part.
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Post by olmucky on Feb 15, 2024 11:12:31 GMT -5
I know one of the wma I regularly hunt has X permits given and allows the exempt aged and a buddy.
The dude at the gate keeps track.
With all the totals of hunters combined I don’t recall him ever reaching the number of permits given.
IE if 75 permits were issued, he’s never counted 75 come in
That irks me the most
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Post by One Man Gang on Feb 15, 2024 11:54:11 GMT -5
Most of this quota bullshit is a direct result of the queerbois qlub constantly whining about what they believe their "quality" hunts should consist of, and their needs not being met... and a few other things.
From the looks of this thread it seems like everyone has a different interpretation of the rules and that's shameful of the rule making process and the responsibile agencies. None of this should be this confusing to so many people.
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Post by meateater on Feb 15, 2024 13:33:02 GMT -5
heres some of the confusion, my old geezer friends just assumed since they are exempt they dont need a quota, wrong old decrepit bogans need a quota on just about every south zone wma just like everyone else. its so hard to get a permit in the regular draw for a 35 year old guy every 3 or 4 years on average well shit if your 77 years old 3 or 4 years feels like 10 years. being exempt saves you the money you would spend on the license and thats it when talking south florida wma turkey hunting. no special treatment for old geezers. 60 bucks off now get in line with the rest of us gramps.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Feb 15, 2024 14:07:12 GMT -5
Are you that threatened by an old man?
Damn, I was feeling old and pretty useless. I feel better now that I can still put fear in some of these young Buck's heart. Lol
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Post by meateater on Feb 15, 2024 15:04:30 GMT -5
Are you that threatened by an old man? Damn, I was feeling old and pretty useless. I feel better now that I can still put fear in some of these young Buck's heart. Lol im a old fart at heart, only 58, but physically bout 87, mentally around 103, i think making some guy whos 75 wait 3 or 4 years to go turkey hunting on a decent piece of public land is bullspit, im on your side . |
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