|
|
Post by joekat46 on Aug 11, 2023 5:06:19 GMT -5
Anyone notice that several states are doing everything they can to price out or restrict non-res. Because of the money and politics involved I'm betting Florida will be the last to even consider such a move. It would be nice to at least have some sort of edge on the WMA quota hunts (not Special Op - do have one there). A non-res turkey tag/license (all I care about) can now easily approach $500 in many nearby southern states. No thank you. They win.
|
|
|
|
Post by wayvis on Aug 11, 2023 9:30:41 GMT -5
This started when non-res hunters started leasing land and driving up the cost for local hunters. Just like everything else the price keeps going up. Too many people with too much money and no sense. As long as we hunters keep paying the price it will keep going up. The biggest factor is hunters asking for higher non-residents fees so they can have an edge on out of state hunters. As you I will not pay non-res fees, so I don't hunt out of state, and if I do I don't buy a license.
|
|
|
|
Post by richm on Aug 11, 2023 12:37:34 GMT -5
I’ve done a little hunting out west and there is a lot of NR and Res competition.
Folks are pushing for wever restrictions on NR hunters.
It seems like where-ever we get some well made hunter videos, everyone goes aflocking.
The grass is greener on other side and in many cases, it is the only game in town. FL is only pkace for osceola turkeys.
|
|
|
|
Post by Crkr 23 on Aug 12, 2023 8:53:59 GMT -5
This started when non-res hunters started leasing land and driving up the cost for local hunters. Just like everything else the price keeps going up. Too many people with too much money and no sense. As long as we hunters keep paying the price it will keep going up. The biggest factor is hunters asking for higher non-residents fees so they can have an edge on out of state hunters. As you I will not pay non-res fees, so I don't hunt out of state, and if I do I don't buy a license. |
|
|
|
Post by Crkr 23 on Aug 12, 2023 9:03:02 GMT -5
I would be very careful with hunting out of state without proper license. Along with fines there maybe a suspension of hunting privileges which probably carry over to a suspension of privileges in Florida. Plus transportation of game over state lines illegally might get you a federal Lacey Act charge. That 400 or 500 hundred dollar license might look like a bargain at this point. Me, if I hunt, I'm buying the license.
|
|
|
|
Post by joekat46 on Aug 12, 2023 10:03:44 GMT -5
I think some post are done for shock value. Hunting anyplace without the required license would be foolish. Over my years in Florida I have had out of state visitors that have hunted hog that don't or didn't require a license where we went. Any turkey hunting they bought a license as I did when hunting their state. Most states now have their 2024 turkey regs finalized. There are still a few places that are affordable. The problem will be they will draw more non-res because of this. My future as a non-res will be very selective.
|
|
|
|
Post by meateater on Aug 14, 2023 9:04:26 GMT -5
florida should be charging 500.00 minimum . thats for a 3 day turkey license. public or private. outfitter or not 500.00 for a 3 day license. non residents are over crowding many of our non quota areas just about causing them to go quota only.
|
|
|
|
Post by Stumpy on Aug 14, 2023 9:38:28 GMT -5
florida should be charging 500.00 minimum . thats for a 3 day turkey license. public or private. outfitter or not 500.00 for a 3 day license. non residents are over crowding many of our non quota areas just about causing them to go quota only. I agree, and stop issuing transferable special opportunity turkey permits, if you don't want the permit turn it in for the next person in line. Also limit the number applications on special opportunity turkey permits, its a lottery to sell the permit to non residents. |
|
|
|
Post by richm on Aug 14, 2023 9:58:32 GMT -5
Yup - all permits should be non-transferrable. Keep the guest thing but lose the transfer.
Gotta be careful what we ask for with prices - once we start doing it, no excuse to complain about other state rates.
|
|
|
|
Post by Crkr 23 on Aug 14, 2023 12:04:27 GMT -5
I believe 500 bucks per permit is to high. I do like idea of limiting NR permits to 10% of the total number of all issued permits.
|
|
|
|
Post by joekat46 on Aug 14, 2023 17:49:58 GMT -5
At the very least the resident should have an edge on the Florida general quotas hunts. In a few years non-res will be priced out in many states. Watching other forums Al, MS, AR, and LA are leading the charge. Yes FL could easily have a Osceola turkey zone tag that 500.00 would seem cheap. The north of the Suwanee River eastern birds could be a cheaper tag. Nobody travels to Florida for an Eastern gobbler.
Add - the transferrable Special Op permit is the old gamers last stand. Draw one for Fisheating Creek East and see what it brings on some turkey forums. Guys willing to pay $2500 for a private land Osceola hunt. They will lay out a buck or two for a good transferrable S O permit.
|
|
|
|
Post by pinman on Aug 14, 2023 17:54:05 GMT -5
florida should be charging 500.00 minimum . thats for a 3 day turkey license. public or private. outfitter or not 500.00 for a 3 day license. non residents are over crowding many of our non quota areas just about causing them to go quota only. I agree, and stop issuing transferable special opportunity turkey permits, if you don't want the permit turn it in for the next person in line. Also limit the number applications on special opportunity turkey permits, its a lottery to sell the permit to non residents. The next person in line part is pure genius....but there is no incentive unless the next person in line has to pay the fee and the original holder gets a refund. It makes sense but I couldnt see it happening very often. |
|
|
|
Post by Stumpy on Aug 14, 2023 20:33:46 GMT -5
I agree, and stop issuing transferable special opportunity turkey permits, if you don't want the permit turn it in for the next person in line. Also limit the number applications on special opportunity turkey permits, its a lottery to sell the permit to non residents. The next person in line part is pure genius....but there is no incentive unless the next person in line has to pay the fee and the original holder gets a refund. It makes sense but I couldnt see it happening very often. This is the current system.......... Successful applicants will be notified of their drawing status with a deadline for purchasing the special-opportunity permit. If the selected applicant does not purchase the special-opportunity permit by the deadline, the FWC will offer the permit to an applicant "waiting in line" in the next round. |
|
|
|
Post by richm on Aug 15, 2023 6:53:16 GMT -5
I believe 500 bucks per permit is to high. I do like idea of limiting NR permits to 10% of the total number of all issued permits. Seems to be a trend. Gonna come down to either you live there or pretty much you can't hunt there - areas worth hunting, of course. And now, even our state is getting excited over NR hunters for 3-day Osceola turkey permits - nothing else here is worth a NR trip. Imagine if we had better hunting for other stuff? Seems like most of the guys who want it do not hunt elsewhere. |
|
|
|
Post by meateater on Aug 15, 2023 10:30:48 GMT -5
nobody is rushing out to hunt easterns in any state so it will always be cheap in most states, merriams and rio,s also have tons of hunting opportunities, its only florida that gets overrun by outa state hunters during spring turkey. season starts before most states and of course guys want a osceola. last season i was called by 2 guys, 1 had 1 day left on a triple n ranch permit, he wanted 500.00 other guy had 2 days left and wanted 900.00. i turned both down but 100% they both got sold. 500.00 for a 3 day license, if you want the greatest turkeys with golden spurs that poop diamonds your gonna have to pay. otherwise turkey will become like deer season , residents waiting 3 to 5 years just to go hunting on our public lands.
|
|
