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Post by meateater on Sept 18, 2024 12:28:50 GMT -5
No one "dropped illegal immigrants" into Springfield. There were manufacturing jobs that native Americans didn't want to do. Haitians who were here under the amnesty program initiated by Geo. Bush heard about them and came to Springfield to take those jobs. "Thousands of new jobs had been created there, thanks to a successful effort by the city’s leadership and Chamber of Commerce to attract new business to Springfield, which sits between Columbus and Dayton. Once a manufacturing hub, Springfield saw its economy shrink after factories closed and jobs migrated overseas. By about 2015, its population had dwindled to under 60,000, from about 80,000 in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Companies that set up shop, however, confronted a dire labor shortage. Haitians in Florida, Haiti and South America heard from friends and family about Springfield and its need for workers. They began arriving to take jobs in warehouses, manufacturing and the service sector, and employers urged the new workers to encourage other Haitians to join them. What started as a trickle swelled to a surge after the Covid-19 pandemic, coinciding with deepening political and economic instability in Haiti after the assassination of the president in 2021." There are certainly some who are illegal, and the quick addition to the population has strained social services and road safety. Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine: "I think it's unfortunate that this came up. Let me tell you what we do know, though. What we know is that the Haitians who are in Springfield are legal. They came to Springfield to work. Ohio is on the move, and Springfield has really made a great resurgence with a lot of companies coming in. These Haitians came in to work for these companies," DeWine said on Sunday. "What the companies tell us is that they are very good workers. They're very happy to have them there, and frankly, that's helped the economy. Now, are there problems connected? Well, sure. When you go from a population of 58,000 and add 15,000 people onto that, you're going to have some challenges and some problems. And we're addressing those," he added. this is 100% bullshit. this guy wants you to believe there are no black,white,latino legal citizens looking for jobs, what a really dumb article full of excuses.
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Post by meateater on Sept 18, 2024 12:31:13 GMT -5
Since they're all working hard at these great jobs then I suppose they don't need any welfare assistance, right? hey knuckle dragger dont be racist.
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Post by nuevowavo on Sept 18, 2024 13:59:10 GMT -5
No one "dropped illegal immigrants" into Springfield. There were manufacturing jobs that native Americans didn't want to do. Haitians who were here under the amnesty program initiated by Geo. Bush heard about them and came to Springfield to take those jobs. "Thousands of new jobs had been created there, thanks to a successful effort by the city’s leadership and Chamber of Commerce to attract new business to Springfield, which sits between Columbus and Dayton. Once a manufacturing hub, Springfield saw its economy shrink after factories closed and jobs migrated overseas. By about 2015, its population had dwindled to under 60,000, from about 80,000 in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Companies that set up shop, however, confronted a dire labor shortage. Haitians in Florida, Haiti and South America heard from friends and family about Springfield and its need for workers. They began arriving to take jobs in warehouses, manufacturing and the service sector, and employers urged the new workers to encourage other Haitians to join them. What started as a trickle swelled to a surge after the Covid-19 pandemic, coinciding with deepening political and economic instability in Haiti after the assassination of the president in 2021." There are certainly some who are illegal, and the quick addition to the population has strained social services and road safety. Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine: "I think it's unfortunate that this came up. Let me tell you what we do know, though. What we know is that the Haitians who are in Springfield are legal. They came to Springfield to work. Ohio is on the move, and Springfield has really made a great resurgence with a lot of companies coming in. These Haitians came in to work for these companies," DeWine said on Sunday. "What the companies tell us is that they are very good workers. They're very happy to have them there, and frankly, that's helped the economy. Now, are there problems connected? Well, sure. When you go from a population of 58,000 and add 15,000 people onto that, you're going to have some challenges and some problems. And we're addressing those," he added. this is 100% bullshit. this guy wants you to believe there are no black,white,latino legal citizens looking for jobs, what a really dumb article full of excuses.
Then how were all those Haitians able to find jobs? Because the existing residents didn't want to do them:
"When Haitian immigrants began trickling into Springfield to work in local produce packaging and machining factories in 2017, some thought the new residents could help the city regain its former vigor as a once-thriving manufacturing hub. Once home to major agricultural machinery companies in the mid-20th century, Springfield has lost a quarter of its population since the 1960s.
“They came to us for one reason: they were looking for ways to find out how to work,” Casey Rollins, executive director of the St Vincent de Paul Society’s Springfield chapter, said of those who came to the Ohio city from Haiti.
“So we got together immigration lawyers and interpreters to figure out how to help them work. We are getting them online and getting them to apply [for work permits]. We wanted workers here [in Springfield] – they want to work.”
"Haitians and immigrants from Central American countries have been in high demand at Springfield’s Dole Fresh Vegetables – where they’ve been hired to clean and package produce – and at automotive machining plants whose owners were desperate for workers due to a labor shortage in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic."
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 18, 2024 14:56:55 GMT -5
"I'm still gonna call them an illegal alien" -- JD Vance on Haitian migrants who are in Ohio legally
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 18, 2024 16:42:19 GMT -5
“Come here the right way!”
“I’m still gonna call you illegal”
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 18, 2024 20:46:10 GMT -5
If I didn't know better, I'd almost think it wasn't about legal or illegal at all.
Whoops, did I just say that?
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Post by johnnybandit on Sept 18, 2024 22:31:02 GMT -5
Some of y'all need to live in South Florida for a bit. The Haitians and some Cubans sacrifice animals on a regular basis. Whether it is Voodoo or Santeria. They may not be eating them but they do kill them for religious purposes. I have seen the discards many times when I worked in Miami. One of the regular job duties of the Dade county custodial staff is cleaning up chicken parts off the court house steps. I guess the defendants are hoping for a favorable outcome. I have lived in Miami.... But YOU were claiming cats on the grill... Which was a blatant lie...It was a lie when Vance said it... It was a lie when trump said it... and it was a lie when you said it...
And now you have switched you chickens.... I am sure if you live in Miami you live in Miami... especially in your line of work....
I am sorry you have to pick up chicken parts all day.... if you were a little smarter... Or in reality... Just more motivated.... you would not be a janitor...
And your story is largely bullshit..... But There is Santeria religion... In Miami... Tampa... New Orleans (Big time). Atlanta, Chicago. Detroit... Kingston, Port-au-Prince, Port of Spain etc...
Do as you wish... But my advice to you.... Is to avoid the dark arts and religions...
And to be clear... I am not talking about me.... I would throw a jar of my piss in a Santeria priest's face.... But you have proven many times over.... That you are not that mentally strong...
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 18, 2024 23:04:03 GMT -5
You lost me at "avoid the dark arts".
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Post by johnnybandit on Sept 18, 2024 23:46:20 GMT -5
You lost me at "avoid the dark arts".
That was mean for Zif.... Ignorant people like harry potter references... They cannot afford quality tv... They mostly watch Wrestlemania and harry potter video tapes that they buy out of the 3 for a dollar bit at the walmart in Florida City...
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 19, 2024 0:01:29 GMT -5
I have (allegedly) been wrong before, but Zif doesn't strike me as a Harry Potter fan.
But it does strike me that if we were to somehow combine your and IF's posts that we would still have too many periods.
Sorry, it's hard for me sometimes.
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Post by Zif on Sept 19, 2024 11:01:59 GMT -5
I have (allegedly) been wrong before, but Zif doesn't strike me as a Harry Potter fan. But it does strike me that if we were to somehow combine your and IF's posts that we would still have too many periods. Sorry, it's hard for me sometimes. While I don't often agree with you, your intuition is clearly much keener than Johnny B's. That dude is madder than a hatter.
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 19, 2024 11:06:05 GMT -5
Harry Potter -Deathly Hallows, pretty good, just saying.
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Post by Zif on Sept 19, 2024 11:07:08 GMT -5
One of the regular job duties of the Dade county custodial staff is cleaning up chicken parts off the court house steps. I guess the defendants are hoping for a favorable outcome. I have lived in Miami.... But YOU were claiming cats on the grill... Which was a blatant lie...It was a lie when Vance said it... It was a lie when trump said it... and it was a lie when you said it...
And now you have switched you chickens.... I am sure if you live in Miami you live in Miami... especially in your line of work....
I am sorry you have to pick up chicken parts all day.... if you were a little smarter... Or in reality... Just more motivated.... you would not be a janitor...
And your story is largely bullshit..... But There is Santeria religion... In Miami... Tampa... New Orleans (Big time). Atlanta, Chicago. Detroit... Kingston, Port-au-Prince, Port of Spain etc...
Do as you wish... But my advice to you.... Is to avoid the dark arts and religions...
And to be clear... I am not talking about me.... I would throw a jar of my piss in a Santeria priest's face.... But you have proven many times over.... That you are not that mentally strong...
Your reading comprehension really sucks. When did I ever say I was a janitor?
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Post by toldya on Sept 19, 2024 11:20:37 GMT -5
One of the regular job duties of the Dade county custodial staff is cleaning up chicken parts off the court house steps. I guess the defendants are hoping for a favorable outcome. I have lived in Miami.... But YOU were claiming cats on the grill... Which was a blatant lie...It was a lie when Vance said it... It was a lie when trump said it... and it was a lie when you said it...
And now you have switched you chickens.... I am sure if you live in Miami you live in Miami... especially in your line of work....
I am sorry you have to pick up chicken parts all day.... if you were a little smarter... Or in reality... Just more motivated.... you would not be a janitor...
And your story is largely bullshit..... But There is Santeria religion... In Miami... Tampa... New Orleans (Big time). Atlanta, Chicago. Detroit... Kingston, Port-au-Prince, Port of Spain etc...
Do as you wish... But my advice to you.... Is to avoid the dark arts and religions...
And to be clear... I am not talking about me.... I would throw a jar of my piss in a Santeria priest's face.... But you have proven many times over.... That you are not that mentally strong...
I don't know why some people have problems with some of you former moderators.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 19, 2024 13:34:02 GMT -5
I wonder what JD Vance would do if someone told him they didn’t care about Usha’s actual status they were still going to call her an illegal alien because reasons.
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