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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 12:21:10 GMT -5
Veteran bills (just like other bills) should be funded when they are passed. If you're so hot for the veterans why are you supporting a candidate who deliberately has his supporters attach a rider to the funding bill that has nothing to do with the funding? A candidate who only uses the Veterans for political gain. "Suckers and losers" Ken. "Suckers and losers! Thats a moronic statement. The pork matters. Always. That’s why it needs to go. Would you be okay with the passage of a V.A. funding bill that also had a bill attached that outlawed presidential term limits? If so, you’re a fool. Why would you even ask that question? Of course I wouldn't. To suggest I would and imply I'm a "fool" is pretty par for the course for some on here.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 12:25:42 GMT -5
That may be the stupidest comment you've made lately. You're too dumb to notice that the pubs are holding up passage by attaching unrelated legislation. Are you sure your last name isn't Tuberville? Sounds a lot like what the democrats do to submarine an otherwise good bill too. Does that justify the actions by the pubs in this case? Of course not. Politicians suck. Always have and always will. All of them. They all participate in it.
Does this make it ok? Why can’t we have single issue bills that get voted up or down on their own merit, rather than the crazy pork laden crap they always vote on? I wish I knew. I'm in complete agreement.
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 15, 2024 13:10:13 GMT -5
Thats a moronic statement. The pork matters. Always. That’s why it needs to go. Would you be okay with the passage of a V.A. funding bill that also had a bill attached that outlawed presidential term limits? If so, you’re a fool. Why would you even ask that question? Of course I wouldn't. To suggest I would and imply I'm a "fool" is pretty par for the course for some on here. I didn’t imply that you’re a fool. I said that if you blindly support any bill to fund the V.A. without considering what else was tacked onto it, you’d be a fool. I did say that your mandate to approve any bill with V.A. funding in it was moronic, for the same reason. Apparently, we agree that the pork attached to any bill matters. It’s often used to kill otherwise good bills. Both parties do it to keep the other from being able to claim an achievement on the campaign trail. It’s all of us who pay the price for their tactics. I don’t know the answer on how to stop it. Until it does though, we will all continue to lose out on the progress they could be making for our country.
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Post by ferris1248 on Sept 15, 2024 13:14:06 GMT -5
Why would you even ask that question? Of course I wouldn't. To suggest I would and imply I'm a "fool" is pretty par for the course for some on here. I didn’t imply that you’re a fool. I said that if you blindly support any bill to fund the V.A. without considering what else was tacked onto it, you’d be a fool. I did say that your mandate to approve any bill with V.A. funding in it was moronic, for the same reason. Apparently, we agree that the pork attached to any bill matters. It’s often used to kill otherwise good bills. Both parties do it to keep the other from being able to claim an achievement on the campaign trail. It’s all of us who pay the price for their tactics. I don’t know the answer on how to stop it. Until it does though, we will all continue to lose out on the progress they could be making for our country. If we ever meet, I'll buy the beer.
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Post by walkerdog on Sept 15, 2024 13:14:39 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like what the democrats do to submarine an otherwise good bill too. Does that justify the actions by the pubs in this case? Of course not. Politicians suck. Always have and always will. All of them. They all participate in it.
Does this make it ok? Why can’t we have single issue Never said it justified anything. bills that get voted up or down on their own merit, rather than the crazy pork laden crap they always vote on? I wish I knew. I'm in complete agreement. Never said it was okay for the pubs to do it. I don’t think it’s okay for either party to do it. Some here have sure enjoyed using it as a cudgel though by ignoring the pork that was voted against in a bill that would have otherwise enjoyed bipartisan support. I’m sure you’ve seen it happen here too.
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Post by luapnor on Sept 15, 2024 13:33:26 GMT -5
Implication not required
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Post by mapper on Sept 15, 2024 14:47:58 GMT -5
Apparently, we agree that the pork attached to any bill matters. It’s often used to kill otherwise good bills. Both parties do it to keep the other from being able to claim an achievement on the campaign trail. It’s all of us who pay the price for their tactics. I don’t know the answer on how to stop it. Until it does though, we will all continue to lose out on the progress they could be making for our country. Pay attention to amendments on bills and votes on bills. Read the bills and amendments and comittee substitutes. If your representative or senator does not support your beliefs after reading bills and votes, they are NOT worthy of being your representative. Government is something that needs following, don't rely on others to do it.
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Post by meateater on Sept 16, 2024 16:06:39 GMT -5
so we are 2.9 billion short for our veterans, sorry ukraine the usa is gonna be a little short this month, beg for some more money from your nextdoor neighbors since they should be paying the most anyway. all democrats and most republicans still vote to use our tax dollars for a proxy war but cant come together for its own people, whats new. disgusting people in our government.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Sept 16, 2024 16:11:20 GMT -5
We need legislation that limits all bills to being “single action bills”.
Enough of tacking garbage into good legislation
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