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Post by Tarponator on Sept 12, 2024 16:40:39 GMT -5
Maybe you could hit us with this lustrous highlight reel of accomplishments as VP? Google isn't returning much unfortunately. Now do the past 5 vice presidents, and you'll be all caught up.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 16:40:46 GMT -5
She's done well enough to use it as a springboard for the presidency. Now that's funny. She didn't receive a single vote
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Post by cadman on Sept 12, 2024 16:45:14 GMT -5
What is your legitimate source for that $200 million? I know Trump throws that number around a lot, but the highest number I ever heard from conservative organizations who study illegal immigration has been $150 billion and that is likely a stretch. But the liberal side also stretches the number by claiming the taxes illegals pay offset all the costs and they do not cost anything. We really don't know the exact cost, but I would guess more than zero and less than $150 billion. answer the question cad, lets say its twenty bucks , would it be better to give it to a struggling american single mom of 2 kids living in her car or some 25 year old man from brazil that just broke the law by sneaking in across the border. do you hate america that much. I have already said, deport the illegals if we catch them. What if that single mom is an illegal who came here 15 years ago when she was 12 years old? do I still give her the $20 or do we ignore her?
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 16:48:03 GMT -5
She's done well enough to use it as a springboard for the presidency. Now that's funny. She didn't receive a single vote What's that matter? Sorry you seem to have a hard time with the fact that the right-wing brain trust does not get to dictate how or who the Dems choose as their candidate.
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Post by cadman on Sept 12, 2024 16:48:50 GMT -5
She should spend the remainder of the administrations term implementing the changes she claims she'll do if elected. She's in a position to execute those changes now. Put up or shut up. It doesn't get any simpler than that A VP can issue executive orders? Where is that in the constitution?
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 12, 2024 16:51:39 GMT -5
Uh oh.
Now you're in trouble, Josh!
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Post by cadman on Sept 12, 2024 17:00:22 GMT -5
Also, don't they already have a bipartison bill written and ready to go but Trump told them to kill it until he won the election? Why the need to write a new one when we already have one Trump won't let the Republicans work on?
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 17:03:25 GMT -5
No one even used the words executive nor order. What Bill are you referring to
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 17:05:45 GMT -5
Now that's funny. She didn't receive a single vote What's that matter? Sorry you seem to have a hard time with the fact that the right-wing brain trust does not get to dictate how or who the Dems choose as their candidate. Had trump not trounced Biden in the first debate, Ole Joe would still be the primary candidate. So her accomplishments didn't springboard her into anything. She was chosen by the party donors
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Post by Tarponator on Sept 12, 2024 17:08:20 GMT -5
More like had Biden not shit the bed....yet here we are.
I know it can be hard given your world view, but it would be better if you guys would focus on what is rather than what was.
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Post by cadman on Sept 12, 2024 17:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by Captj on Sept 12, 2024 17:18:35 GMT -5
So, it's not a fair game because Kamala came late to the show? No interest in who is the best person to run the country? Better yet if the Repugnant party thinks they have someone better suited to run than FF45 they should bring that person to the table. I would hope they have somebody better suited than FF45 to run the country should they win. Besides, he looks to be a few happy meals away from a major health issue.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 17:24:26 GMT -5
Not the best for the country but it was a strategic move by the party. The democrats made no effort to strengthen the border for the first 3 years. Then then wanted to take action during the election cycle as to claim it as a win.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 17:30:19 GMT -5
What's that matter? Sorry you seem to have a hard time with the fact that the right-wing brain trust does not get to dictate how or who the Dems choose as their candidate. Had trump not trounced Biden in the first debate, Ole Joe would still be the primary candidate. So her accomplishments didn't springboard her into anything. She was chosen by the party donors Politics is messy, and like I said the right-wing opinion on the value of her accomplishments, as they see them, means less than nothing.
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Post by cadman on Sept 12, 2024 17:31:26 GMT -5
Not the best for the country but it was a strategic move by the party. The democrats made no effort to strengthen the border for the first 3 years. Then then wanted to take action during the election cycle as to claim it as a win. I was just answering your question as to why she doesn't author a bill right now. No need to since there is already a bill ready to go. Trump said they needed to do something and they have. He is the person who killed it. Nothing else she can do as long as Trump controls his minions in congress. I agree it was a strategic move, just as Trump's is trying to claim she can do something she can't do.
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