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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:00:17 GMT -5
Democrat Virginia Gov Ralph Northam talking about approval for late term abortions and even the procedure. Quite interesting where he talks about keeping the fetus alive or even resuscitating it while the parents and physician make a decision. Jump to the 40:00 minute mark on the dot. Again this was debunked so...
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:05:21 GMT -5
Trump said it was legal in six states.
He's talking about a proposed bill that failed at the state level, so, is it legal anywhere, or not? Pretty simple question.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:10:53 GMT -5
Democrat Virginia Gov Ralph Northam talking about approval for late term abortions and even the procedure. Quite interesting where he talks about keeping the fetus alive or even resuscitating it while the parents and physician make a decision. Jump to the 40:00 minute mark on the dot. Again this was debunked so... A failed bill in Virginia's state legislature does not make the case you think it does. But, I guess it's not for the states to decide after all, right?
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:14:15 GMT -5
Does Harris support Fracking or support BANNING Fracking? Her words
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 12, 2024 10:20:00 GMT -5
Here is the incident that sparked the cat eating comment. This was debunked as well. Thats a cat , Trump said THEY ARE EATING DOGS. It also wasn’t in Springfield, it was in Dayton. Just a bunch of desperate fear mongering.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:21:07 GMT -5
Trump said it was legal in six states. He's talking about a proposed bill that failed at the state level, so, is it legal anywhere, or not? Pretty simple question. www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-courtWhere things stand todayFertilization: 14 states have laws in effect banning nearly all abortions starting at fertilization. Six weeks: South Carolina and Georgia are the only states that have laws in effect banning abortions when cardiac activity has been detected in an embryo, which is at around six weeks. 12 weeks: Nebraska and North Carolina are the two states that currently ban abortion at the 12-week mark. 15 weeks: Arizona and Florida ban abortion at 15 weeks. 18 weeks: Utah is the only state that currently bans abortion at 18 weeks of pregnancy. 22 weeks: Iowa, Kansas, Ohio and Wisconsin ban abortions at 22 weeks of pregnancy. Over half of states have restrictions in place only at or after viability, or have no limit at all. 24 weeks: Four states ban abortions at 24 weeks of pregnancy. Viability: 14 states ban abortions after the fetus is considered viable. Some laws that don't specify a limit say it's up to the abortion provider's "judgment" to determine whether a fetus is viable. Third trimester: Virginia is the only state that prohibits abortions in the pregnancy's third trimester, which starts at around 25 weeks, per Guttmacher. It's also the lone southern state that hasn't banned or restricted abortion since the end of Roe. No limit: Six states and Washington, D.C., do not impose any term restrictions. That has not changed since the overturning of Roe. Of note: Most states with restrictions have exceptions, including to preserve a pregnant person's life or health, though they are often narrowly defined.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:24:28 GMT -5
Trump said it was legal in six states. He's talking about a proposed bill that failed at the state level, so, is it legal anywhere, or not? Pretty simple question. www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-courtWhere things stand todayFertilization: 14 states have laws in effect banning nearly all abortions starting at fertilization. Six weeks: South Carolina and Georgia are the only states that have laws in effect banning abortions when cardiac activity has been detected in an embryo, which is at around six weeks. 12 weeks: Nebraska and North Carolina are the two states that currently ban abortion at the 12-week mark. 15 weeks: Arizona and Florida ban abortion at 15 weeks. 18 weeks: Utah is the only state that currently bans abortion at 18 weeks of pregnancy. 22 weeks: Iowa, Kansas, Ohio and Wisconsin ban abortions at 22 weeks of pregnancy. Over half of states have restrictions in place only at or after viability, or have no limit at all. 24 weeks: Four states ban abortions at 24 weeks of pregnancy. Viability: 14 states ban abortions after the fetus is considered viable. Some laws that don't specify a limit say it's up to the abortion provider's "judgment" to determine whether a fetus is viable. Third trimester: Virginia is the only state that prohibits abortions in the pregnancy's third trimester, which starts at around 25 weeks, per Guttmacher. It's also the lone southern state that hasn't banned or restricted abortion since the end of Roe. No limit: Six states and Washington, D.C., do not impose any term restrictions. That has not changed since the overturning of Roe. Of note: Most states with restrictions have exceptions, including to preserve a pregnant person's life or health, though they are often narrowly defined. I'm missing where post birth abortion is legal anywhere as Trump says it is.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:24:33 GMT -5
You're arguing that it was a cat instead of a dog and in Dayton instead of Springfield. Are you serious? That's like arguing the facts of a shooting saying it was a Glock not a Walther and it was a 40cal not a 9mm. This is the problem with democrats.
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Post by resinhead on Sept 12, 2024 10:24:57 GMT -5
Facts don’t care about feelings.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:25:35 GMT -5
It's the 6 states with no limit. Meaning there is no limit to term.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:32:01 GMT -5
It's the 6 states with no limit. Meaning there is no limit to term. Yes, but Trump was specifically talking about after term.
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Post by tonyroma on Sept 12, 2024 10:34:29 GMT -5
You're arguing that it was a cat instead of a dog and in Dayton instead of Springfield. Are you serious? That's like arguing the facts of a shooting saying it was a Glock not a Walther and it was a 40cal not a 9mm. This is the problem with democrats. So one isolated instance of a clearly mentally disturbed woman deserves a mention at a presidential debate. It’s racist fear mongering plain and simple. Vilify the Haitians for political gain.
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 12, 2024 10:35:33 GMT -5
You're arguing that it was a cat instead of a dog and in Dayton instead of Springfield. Are you serious? That's like arguing the facts of a shooting saying it was a Glock not a Walther and it was a 40cal not a 9mm. This is the problem with democrats. BS. Your moving the goal posts from what Trump claimed and you intimated in your example. The claim is about post birth abortion, so please spare me that tripe about the difference between cats and dogs and intellectual honesty.
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:39:38 GMT -5
Trump was specifically talking about botched Surgical Abortions which is where the fetus is not deceased before being delivered, then the fetus is terminated after it is outside of the womb. Dr Trump hasn't been practicing for quite a while now. I'm not holding him to the specifics of how the procedure is performed nor whether he had perfect use of the phrase 'term'. It just amazing me how you all want to inspect each individual word and seize on a single technicality. lozierinstitute.org/the-reality-of-late-term-abortion-procedures/Are you disputing the fact of late term abortions?
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Post by JS84 on Sept 12, 2024 10:40:40 GMT -5
BT that was in response to Tony. Keep up
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