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Post by gardawg on Aug 27, 2024 8:15:37 GMT -5
What is this country coming to? When I was a child, you took your school supply list to your parents, and one magical trip to Target later, you had all your supplies. Into your desk, they went, and that was that. Now, because (I guess) we’re living in a communist country, the teacher gave a list of supplies not only for my child. Oh no. She instructed me to get extra supplies to go into the communal bin. Excuse me? Since when have our children taken supplies out of a bin like pigs eating out of a trough? Where have my tax dollars gone? To the teacher’s 100,000-dollar salary? To the school’s new after-school programs where children write poetry about their feelings instead of picking up a d*mn ball and working out their frustrations on the dodgeball court like we did. No wonder this country is going to the dogs. Why should I use my hard-earned money to ensure every student in that class has a pencil? How will charity stop their trajectory if their parent doesn’t care enough to keep them supplied with a mere pencil? That child is doomed to be a drain upon the system if we give in and show them that they’ll get everything handed to them. Notebooks are a privilege, not a right! Have you ever considered that going without is good for some children? Seeing others with their new backpacks and bespoke leather-bound planners gives them something to strive for. They could take their dollar store pencils like little beggars or go out and do something about their predicament. Start a lemonade stand. Try moonlighting as a chimney sweep. Catch worms for fisherman. Anything is better than becoming a burden on society. The teachers should be ashamed of themselves for not stepping in and using this as a learning moment. All I’m saying is that you can take my child’s pens out of their cold, dead hands. I will not budge and allow my kids to believe that looking out for the group is more important than looking out for themselves. It’s a dog-eat-dog world. Sometimes you get a glue stick, and sometimes you must watch with sadness as others glue hearts to their valentines without you. Good. They should harness that sadness. Use it to strengthen their resolve to earn more money so they can be like me and my friends. We didn’t get to where we are supporting mandatory communal bins. We live in America. What’s ours is ours. That means money, good neighbors, and our children’s school supplies.
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 27, 2024 8:44:53 GMT -5
I have a child in 4th grade, our school does the same thing, I have no problem helping those less fortunate than us, and in deep red Mississippi there is plenty. I also send my kid to school with extra money when they have Kona ice days ( think slushy) that they do a few times a year to raise money for the PTO, in case there is some kid that didn’t have money that day
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 27, 2024 9:16:14 GMT -5
My daughter last year in kindergarten took an extra drink for break so her friend could have one too. I have no idea if the kids patents could afford one or not. Didn't care. I don't know where teachers make 100k but it sure as hell ain't Alabama. When I started Kindergarten in 1983ish we always had a list of "supplies" on out list. Paper towels and all kinds of stuff. I'm sure the teachers kept anything that was left over by the end of the year. But then every teacher I know usually spends a minimum of several hundred dollars a year from their own pocket for class supplies. Which to me is insane.
There isn't that many good paying jobs around here. I know I'm fortunate to have one. All the money goes to the west side of town and the west side of the county. Every where else is pretty much on their own to make due. Teachers have a wish list that you can log into and see what they need or want. We always buy a few extra things on the list every year.
It amazes me to hear people talk so highly of a local man because he "out of the goodness of his heart" "donated" a bunch of the steel to build a new wing on his church. Yet despite the fact his company makes more than he and his grandchildren could ever spend yearly most of his employees make low enough to qualify for assistance. And having worked in one of those companies he owns I can tell you they work the shit out those guys. And if I needed another reason to not like him he had no problems with gambling when he built Beau Rivage Casino in Biloxi bit when he did t get the steel contract for the "electronic Bingo casino" here he suddenly had a crisis of conscious and rallied against it. Successful buy enough support and probably bought enough politicians to kill it. Can't have those cheap workers leaving his sweatshop to go work at the casino for probably more money. He and his counter part run this town and have fought tooth and nail to keep any industry other than. Their own out. Which helps keep the standard of living down for everyone. But hey at least he built a church. Little Timmy's dad can't afford school supplies but he can give 10% of his low wages to the big megachurch now 🙄
Thank God I'm on this side of the conversation. I'd rather be a fountain than a well
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Post by meateater on Aug 27, 2024 9:45:38 GMT -5
stop complaining , schools,teachers,curriculum, all run by your government. soon government will take over the healthcare system that way the poorly educated can also have really shitty healthcare. its all gonna be great now if we can only raise the age to get SS to 82 we will be set.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 27, 2024 9:47:40 GMT -5
^ Some would prefer that the children get no healthcare.
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Post by Reptile Dysfunction on Aug 27, 2024 10:36:35 GMT -5
Keep voting the way you vote and we will all be wards of the state in a generation, if not sooner.
This is really not difficult.
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 27, 2024 10:41:45 GMT -5
stop complaining , schools,teachers,curriculum, all run by your government. soon government will take over the healthcare system that way the poorly educated can also have really shitty healthcare. its all gonna be great now if we can only raise the age to get SS to 82 we will be set. Some would suggest shity health care is better than no health care
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 27, 2024 10:43:56 GMT -5
stop complaining , schools,teachers,curriculum, all run by your government. soon government will take over the healthcare system that way the poorly educated can also have really shitty healthcare. its all gonna be great now if we can only raise the age to get SS to 82 we will be set. Some would suggest shity health care is better than no health care We'll know in two weeks.
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Post by meateater on Aug 27, 2024 10:47:54 GMT -5
Keep voting the way you vote and we will all be wards of the state in a generation, if not sooner.
This is really not difficult.
one persons socialism is another persons neighborliness. tampon machines in boys restrooms. helping raise money for rioters bail. censoring free speech . still people are ok with todays democrat party.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 27, 2024 10:49:04 GMT -5
I would almost think the dawg is being facetious but he could also be obsessing over this Saturday and is taking out his frustrations on the poorer children of the world.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 27, 2024 10:49:23 GMT -5
Some would suggest shity health care is better than no health care We'll know in two weeks. I LOL'd
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 27, 2024 10:50:34 GMT -5
Keep voting the way you vote and we will all be wards of the state in a generation, if not sooner.
This is really not difficult.
one persons socialism is another persons neighborliness. tampon machines in boys restrooms. helping raise money for rioters bail. censoring free speech . still people are ok with todays democrat party. In fairness, at least we have an actual party and not simply the remnants of the decimated GOP, all in service to one man. Once Trump loses, there is no longer a Republican Party.
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Post by meateater on Aug 27, 2024 10:56:27 GMT -5
stop complaining , schools,teachers,curriculum, all run by your government. soon government will take over the healthcare system that way the poorly educated can also have really shitty healthcare. its all gonna be great now if we can only raise the age to get SS to 82 we will be set. Some would suggest shity health care is better than no health care ever heard of florida healthy kids, no kid in florida is without healthcare, yea its shitty but its available , also nobody gets turned away from treatment at a hospital if you go to the ER. but lets no argue we gotta send another 86 billion to ukraine to defend democrasy and help out american children.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 27, 2024 10:58:41 GMT -5
If they paid teachers 200k I still wouldnt be interested in the job. Especially considering that many people view teachers as free babysitters and not education professionals. I say this as someone who probably would have gotten the boot once of twice myself. If we do not remove the "children" who are either unwilling or unable to learn then all the children will suffer. When my oldest son was in middle school more than a decade ago I could not believe the amount of disrespect the children had for the teachers, their peers, and themselves. Nor coukd I believe the lack of control the teachers had over their classrooms. Some of those students absolutely did not give a shit and did everything in their power to make sure the other students could not learn because of their disruptive behavior. As much as I believe in education let's face it. Some of them are not going to advance past the 6th grade. They're not. They either can't or won't. And they need to be removed from the basket before they ruin the other fruit. Some kids are going to excel. They are just smart (usually a lot of parental involvement) and will do well I'm school no matter the circumstances. My hats off to them. But a lot of kids WANT to learn the just struggle and have to work twice as hard for half the results. And that group of kids are probably the majority. And until we remove the wonts and cants from their classes they are the ones who will suffer the most.
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Post by meateater on Aug 27, 2024 11:00:02 GMT -5
one persons socialism is another persons neighborliness. tampon machines in boys restrooms. helping raise money for rioters bail. censoring free speech . still people are ok with todays democrat party. In fairness, at least we have an actual party and not simply the remnants of the decimated GOP, all in service to one man. Once Trump loses, there is no longer a Republican Party. not sure there is republican party anymore, or a democrat party . no common sense on either side.
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