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Post by bswiv on Aug 24, 2024 6:37:33 GMT -5
As much as I want to like him at the end of the day he tried to shop out his endorsement to the highest bidder or cabinet level position. The Harriss campaign woukd t even bother with him. I believe as well as he does that the CIA was involved in both his uncle and dad's deaths. He's certainly not stupid. Eccentric maybe but definitely not stupid. Which is why I don't know why he would want a position in either administration. After he was highly critical of them. I guess it always comes down to power, prestige, and or money You do realize that in a parliamentary form of government, one where coalitions are often needed, and in truth here too where often one has to accept some things that you don't like about a party or individual because others outweigh them, that in return for support it is quite normal and expected that trading on issues will occur? Kennedy did what is reasonable......he "shopped" for where his MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES would be dealt with the most favorably and that happened to be Trump, at least in Kennedy's judgment. Nothing untoward in that......get the best you can get on things you see a very important and then deal with the rest. In reality......it's how those of us who are not Team Players always have to operate, we're picking based on what seems to do the best on the most important and stomaching the rest.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 24, 2024 6:46:15 GMT -5
Trump is a negotiator and deal maker... kennedy can probably move him in certain directions and not others. Kamala is simply the shiny window dressing for a deeper cabal that has a very specific hateful and destructive agenda and there is zero negotiating with them.
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Post by garycoleco on Aug 24, 2024 6:48:46 GMT -5
The Democrat party as a whole has gone completely off the rails.... I'm still strangely shocked by how many votes they get. Everything points to poll fixing. Surely 50% of the population isn't that stupid The only reason I can come up with for why people support the Dem party is that they don't consider the state or direction of the Country. They just concentrate on winning and will take anybody they can get. They vote parry over country. Unfortunately it takes an open mind that can't be manipulated to make a change. 95% of the world's population aren't capable of that. Otherwise we wouldn't be in this predicament
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Post by jsd on Aug 24, 2024 7:32:37 GMT -5
I'm not on board with alot of Kennedys views (2 A) but do agree with others like healthcare corruption, government corruption, poison in our food. Glad to see Kenedy do the right thing with his endorsement. It's not like I was voting for Kennedy to begin with but I think his endorsement will help Trump more than it helps Harris. Trumps made it clear last night when he said this isn't a conservative, republican or Democrat party it's a Make America Great movement. Another party is forming.
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Post by johngalt on Aug 24, 2024 7:32:57 GMT -5
Watching the big government pigs squeal about RFK jr. (and I’m including those on this site) is all you need to know. The kick in the nuts to the dims/socialist is the children’s health issue. No matter ones politics or party loyalty, you don’t fuck with people’s children. And anyone with an ounce of common sense can see the obesity and diabetes epidemic in this country and not to mention all the mental health issues. I’ve said before and stand by it, the reason so many hate Trump is that he has exposed just how corrupt and incompetent this government really is. My bet is no matter if Trump wins in November he will not set foot in the White House.
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Post by cadman on Aug 24, 2024 8:01:40 GMT -5
Did JD Vance just get replaced? i had the same thought.
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Post by cadman on Aug 24, 2024 8:12:15 GMT -5
As much as I want to like him at the end of the day he tried to shop out his endorsement to the highest bidder or cabinet level position. The Harriss campaign woukd t even bother with him. I believe as well as he does that the CIA was involved in both his uncle and dad's deaths. He's certainly not stupid. Eccentric maybe but definitely not stupid. Which is why I don't know why he would want a position in either administration. After he was highly critical of them. I guess it always comes down to power, prestige, and or money You do realize that in a parliamentary form of government, one where coalitions are often needed, and in truth here too where often one has to accept some things that you don't like about a party or individual because others outweigh them, that in return for support it is quite normal and expected that trading on issues will occur? Kennedy did what is reasonable......he "shopped" for where his MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES would be dealt with the most favorably and that happened to be Trump, at least in Kennedy's judgment. Nothing untoward in that......get the best you can get on things you see a very important and then deal with the rest. In reality......it's how those of us who are not Team Players always have to operate, we're picking based on what seems to do the best on the most important and stomaching the rest. RFK chose the only guy willing to talk to him. He tried to shop the Libertarians and the Democrats as well. Trump was the only one who willing to listen to the crazy fool. RFK was out of money, his VP candidate was tired of supporting the campaign, so he shopped his endorsement to whoever would promise him a position in their administration. There really wasn't a choice by RFK to endorse Trump. The other two parties wanted nothing to do with him, Trump was his only chance. I am sure he is worried Trump will screw him over once the election is over, but he really had no other options. Make a deal with the devil and hope he doesn't fuck you or disappear and never be heard from again. If Trump does screw him, he gets more press ranting about that.
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Post by walkerdog on Aug 24, 2024 8:46:17 GMT -5
The only reason I can come up with for why people support the Dem party is that they don't consider the state or direction of the Country. They just concentrate on winning and will take anybody they can get. Trump just excepted a Kennedy that believes in man made climate change. The Dems aren’t the only party who believe in winning. I don’t accept your assertion that anyone was excepted.😉
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 24, 2024 9:16:08 GMT -5
Kennedy may have been the most ethical person running for president. He made his endorsement based upon what is best for America 🇺🇸
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Post by cadman on Aug 24, 2024 9:19:45 GMT -5
Kennedy may have been the most ethical person running for president. He made his endorsement based upon what is best for America 🇺🇸 He sold his soul to the devil for an administrative position. He has no ethics after that decision. Ethical person would have stayed in and fought for his cause, not sell out for a promise from a known liar who never keeps his word. I hope RFK got it in writing, even though the only value in that will be something to wipe his butt with.
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 24, 2024 9:21:02 GMT -5
Not only did his endorsement go to the highest bidder, it went to the only bidder out of desperation.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 24, 2024 9:24:12 GMT -5
Prove your ridiculous accusations. Will you ever quit making shit up. Oh wait, I guess not as you follow the democrat roadmap- LIE LIE LIE UNTIL YOU DIE
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 24, 2024 9:29:46 GMT -5
Kennedy may have been the most ethical person running for president. He made his endorsement based upon what is best for America 🇺🇸 Yup, the Kennedys are the most ethical family in American politics. Do you read this shit before you post it?
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Post by cadman on Aug 24, 2024 9:35:19 GMT -5
Prove your ridiculous accusations. Will you ever quit making shit up. Oh wait, I guess not as you follow the democrat roadmap- LIE LIE LIE UNTIL YOU DIE Which accusations and who are you speaking to? If my statement, allow me to respond. Trump said he would form advisory panels who would work with RFK on the issues RFK was advocating. He admitted RFK will have a position in his administration just as RFK endorsed Trump. There was no endorsement before that. Quid Pro Quo I know, you will claim it was all just a coincidence. Trump and RFK weren't meeting to discuss what it would take for Trump to get RFK's endorsement. RFK just did it all on his own.
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Post by cadman on Aug 24, 2024 9:37:22 GMT -5
Kennedy may have been the most ethical person running for president. He made his endorsement based upon what is best for America 🇺🇸 Yup, the Kennedys are the most ethical family in American politics. Do you read this shit before you post it? Nixon once said, everything he learned about crooked politics, he learned from the Kennedys.
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