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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 15, 2024 6:04:07 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about policy at the level of power we are discussing. That Walz puffed something up or got in a hurry to make a point someplace is both expected and should be expected to be called out in the modern environment. If there is a test to apply to it it would be whether he owns it or not. Own it. Explain it. Move on. People can deal with that. You mean like issuing a curfew during COVID and having cops walk the streets like thugs shooting paintballs at citizens for standing in their doorway?? Walz is a piece of shit, just like admitting you would fire someone for not getting the vaxx if it affected your income.
LMAO..........you're so stupid you can't even get your retorts right.
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Post by meateater on Aug 15, 2024 13:28:06 GMT -5
100% i respect and thank walz for his service, but ,, here it comes,, but there is a difference , a monumental difference between national guard and full time active duty soldiers. 1 weekend a month basically is what he did, he told some straight up lies, some real whoppers so now he,s gotta answer for that.
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Post by nuevowavo on Aug 15, 2024 13:50:30 GMT -5
100% i respect and thank walz for his service, but ,, here it comes,, but there is a difference , a monumental difference between national guard and full time active duty soldiers. 1 weekend a month basically is what he did, he told some straight up lies, some real whoppers so now he,s gotta answer for that.
In 2003 Walz deployed to Italy for nine months. Quite the long weekend!
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Post by tampaspicer on Aug 15, 2024 15:18:08 GMT -5
Every time Vance opens his mouth, his approval rating drops a few more points. He is turning into a liability. Just take a look at his boss LOL
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Post by throttle on Aug 15, 2024 18:45:32 GMT -5
I notice that the OP fails to include any quote from Vance actually criticizing Walz for retiring, which after 24 years of National Guard service is well deserved, although Vance did say that Walz's stealthy manner of retiring, going around the chain of command, and deceiving his direct superior "was shameful". The main criticism of Walz is that Walz lied about his service. Walz claimed to have retired as a Command Sergeant Major and that's a lie. Walz never completed the prerequisites to that rank. And Walz said of "assault rifles" that "we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are at", which is a twofer. The rifles that are legal for civilians to buy and which gun grabbers refer to as "assault weapons" or "weapons of war" are neither. No country has ever equipped it's soldiers for battle with AR-15s. And perhaps more importantly, Walz never carried any weapon "in war". So that's two counts of Stolen Valor against Walz: claim of rank he didn't earn and claim of combat. That's valid criticism, as much as the lying democrat media, and their obedient parrots here, try to play bait and switch, pretending that Walz's service was criticized. It wasn't. It was his lies about his service.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 15, 2024 19:16:31 GMT -5
Yes his lies
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Post by Captj on Aug 16, 2024 6:44:21 GMT -5
When it comes to lies I would defer to the greatest liar of all time - the one and only tRumpist. Vance criticizing anyone is like the pot calling the proverbial kettle black. Bone spurs? C'mon man! Sure doesn't stop him from playing a few rounds of golf. Or anyone without his father's influence from serving our country when called upon to do so. Did he do any marching in the military academy daddy shipped him off to? And that's only the start. The fact is that the only dirt that the right could dig up against the VP nominee is a dui from 1999. Meanwhile the homophobe anti feminist Vance shows up in multiple media from his past in drag, USSR tribute clothing, and as a generally drunk ass frat boy. Most of us here can identify with having a few drinks and then driving home. 24 years in The National Guard vs a party animal frat boy? Let me compare the two. On second thought why bother.
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Post by meateater on Aug 16, 2024 10:57:25 GMT -5
100% i respect and thank walz for his service, but ,, here it comes,, but there is a difference , a monumental difference between national guard and full time active duty soldiers. 1 weekend a month basically is what he did, he told some straight up lies, some real whoppers so now he,s gotta answer for that.
In 2003 Walz deployed to Italy for nine months. Quite the long weekend!
he sure was, where were we in 2003 oh iraq, maybe he was helping look for wmds cruising around in a gondola sipping wine. my point is he never was in a combat zone or used weapons of war. we all have told lies, admit it, apologize,move on. the media wants us to believe he,s dan crenshaw or ryan zinke, he,s not.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 16, 2024 11:33:38 GMT -5
Was Vance ever in combat?
"What shouldn’t be lost in the conversation is that both Vance and Walz served their country honorably and had no marks against their records when they were in uniform. That’s the main thing that shouldn’t be forgotten. It gets said so much that it can be trite, but maybe in this case it’s particularly apt: Gentlemen, thank you for your service."
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Post by johngalt on Aug 16, 2024 11:47:37 GMT -5
He owned it and said it was an error. I don't question a man's service, especially one who served 24 years. No one is questioning his service. Just his embellishment of it.
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Post by meateater on Aug 16, 2024 11:48:20 GMT -5
back in 1972 i remember putting on those shoulder pads and lacing up those cleats, don shula was getting everybody fired up for the game and we went out there and created history, we still are the only team with a perfect season.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 16, 2024 12:00:21 GMT -5
back in 1972 i remember putting on those shoulder pads and lacing up those cleats, don shula was getting everybody fired up for the game and we went out there and created history, we still are the only team with a perfect season. That was slick, top shelf sir.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 16, 2024 19:07:43 GMT -5
👍
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 16, 2024 19:33:57 GMT -5
In today's world where anything can be researched found our or dug up why in the hell would anybody lie or embellish anything? Especially knowing the scrutiny they'll be under?
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 16, 2024 19:36:48 GMT -5
In today's world where anything can be researched found our or dug up why in the hell would anybody lie or embellish anything? Especially knowing the scrutiny they'll be under? Exactly
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