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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 12:59:49 GMT -5
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Post by nuevowavo on Aug 14, 2024 13:12:43 GMT -5
The only reason we've been talking about "voter fraud" is because Trump claimed the 2020 election was stolen. Period. Why wasn't there "fraud" on any of the Congressional contests that year? You would think that whoever was responsible for filling out all those fake ballots for Biden would have been smart enough to check off Democrat Congress candidates, as well.
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Post by garycoleco on Aug 14, 2024 13:16:06 GMT -5
The Heritage Foundation? What a joke. They are about as creditable as The Institute For Policy Studies or The Roosevelt Institute. Anyway, show us how many of those incidents affected the outcome of an election on the Federal level. Are you familiar with an unbiased source of anything in the news?
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Post by meateater on Aug 14, 2024 13:21:41 GMT -5
The Heritage Foundation? What a joke. They are about as creditable as The Institute For Policy Studies or The Roosevelt Institute. Anyway, show us how many of those incidents affected the outcome of an election on the Federal level. Are you familiar with an unbiased source of anything in the news? yes, the patriot twins youtube show, ex marines,, men of color,, very unbiased.
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Post by toldya on Aug 14, 2024 13:28:00 GMT -5
The only reason we've been talking about "voter fraud" is because Trump claimed the 2020 election was stolen. Period. Why wasn't there "fraud" on any of the Congressional contests that year? You would think that whoever was responsible for filling out all those fake ballots for Biden would have been smart enough to check off Democrat Congress candidates, as well. That's not true. People were talking about voter fraud and the election practices in Dem districts . It was widely being discussed.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 13:55:52 GMT -5
My point exactly. But I guess you and IF have seen all that fraud so you know better than the rest of us. I don't know whether or not the last election was fair. I don't think we will ever know. I know the Dems made it questionable which is not a good thing. No, the magaa stop the steal liars made it questionable, good thing the courts upheld reason. Your take is wrong, you've been lied to.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 13:57:37 GMT -5
The only reason we've been talking about "voter fraud" is because Trump claimed the 2020 election was stolen. Period. Why wasn't there "fraud" on any of the Congressional contests that year? You would think that whoever was responsible for filling out all those fake ballots for Biden would have been smart enough to check off Democrat Congress candidates, as well. That's not true. People were talking about voter fraud and the election practices in Dem districts . It was widely being discussed. Let's see your info. The heritage club stuff wasn't it.
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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 14:00:36 GMT -5
They won’t admit that fraud is taking place under their watch Common sense: IDs required for voting. Democrats are against it. Why? Kamala just required photo ids to get into her political rally BUT she is against requiring voters to submit ID to vote. Why? The answer is simple. It makes cheating harder Georgia requires I.D. to vote. I do not believe democrats are against I.D. to vote. The issue is, how restrictive and repressive is the requirement. Florida and Georgia have I.D. laws that work and are not restrictive. You present a photo I.D. to vote and if you do not have one, you vote using a provisional ballot which is not countered until it is verified. The issue was many new I.D. laws that made no exception or method to vote if you forgot or lost your I.D. for any reason. There are ways to create I.D. laws which make it impossible for some to vote, which is unconstitutional. Under our constitution, Every American has a right to vote. It does not say every American with a state I.D. The courts have upheld the restrictive voter I.D. laws without the option of a provisional ballot or other method for those without I.D. are unconstitutional. So it isn't just Democrats, but the judicial system as well that is against restrictive I.D. laws.
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Post by toldya on Aug 14, 2024 14:09:02 GMT -5
They won’t admit that fraud is taking place under their watch Common sense: IDs required for voting. Democrats are against it. Why? Kamala just required photo ids to get into her political rally BUT she is against requiring voters to submit ID to vote. Why? The answer is simple. It makes cheating harder Georgia requires I.D. to vote. I do not believe democrats are against I.D. to vote. The issue is, how restrictive and repressive is the requirement. Florida and Georgia have I.D. laws that work and are not restrictive. You present a photo I.D. to vote and if you do not have one, you vote using a provisional ballot which is not countered until it is verified. The issue was many new I.D. laws that made no exception or method to vote if you forgot or lost your I.D. for any reason. There are ways to create I.D. laws which make it impossible for some to vote, which is unconstitutional. Under our constitution, Every American has a right to vote. It does not say every American with a state I.D. The courts have upheld the restrictive voter I.D. laws without the option of a provisional ballot or other method for those without I.D. are unconstitutional. So it isn't just Democrats, but the judicial system as well that is against restrictive I.D. laws. How are they going to verify it without a photo ID ? And what good would a voter ID law be if people could just say they forgot or lost it ?
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Post by toldya on Aug 14, 2024 14:10:48 GMT -5
That's not true. People were talking about voter fraud and the election practices in Dem districts . It was widely being discussed. Let's see your info. The heritage club stuff wasn't it. Use your memory. You know what people were talking about in regards to the election practices. Before the election.
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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 14:18:56 GMT -5
i would believe their information to be correct and accurate and their database is very objective. The commentary you link to is highly misleading and pretty much garbage. Here is a link to the actual data base the commentary is referring to www.heritage.org/voterfraudIf you, in the center and near the bottom is a link to the searchable database. www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine=&state=All&year=&case_type=All&fraud_type=All&page=1If you click that searchable link you will notice a database of 81 pages listing the 1500 or so fraud incidents. You will also notice that it covers years going back to 1982. So the database of 1546 cases of fraud covers 40 years elections. Do you know how many billions of votes have been cast in various elections in the past 40 years and all they found was 1546 cases? Does that really sound like election fraud is the big issue Trump is claiming it is?
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Post by cadman on Aug 14, 2024 14:26:14 GMT -5
Georgia requires I.D. to vote. I do not believe democrats are against I.D. to vote. The issue is, how restrictive and repressive is the requirement. Florida and Georgia have I.D. laws that work and are not restrictive. You present a photo I.D. to vote and if you do not have one, you vote using a provisional ballot which is not countered until it is verified. The issue was many new I.D. laws that made no exception or method to vote if you forgot or lost your I.D. for any reason. There are ways to create I.D. laws which make it impossible for some to vote, which is unconstitutional. Under our constitution, Every American has a right to vote. It does not say every American with a state I.D. The courts have upheld the restrictive voter I.D. laws without the option of a provisional ballot or other method for those without I.D. are unconstitutional. So it isn't just Democrats, but the judicial system as well that is against restrictive I.D. laws. How are they going to verify it without a photo ID ? And what good would a voter ID law be if people could just say they forgot or lost it ? There is a registration card on file with your signature. They can verify the signatures match using computer software. If it does not match, they will notify you to come to the registration office within so many days to verify your identity. The system is very accurate. In 99% of elections, provisional ballots do not affect the outcome of the election anyways, there is usually too few of them.
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Post by cyclist on Aug 14, 2024 14:38:24 GMT -5
Let's see your info. The heritage club stuff wasn't it. Use your memory. You know what people were talking about in regards to the election practices. Before the election. Talk is cheap...republicans election deniers losing 60 plus court cases is meat.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 14, 2024 14:55:50 GMT -5
Harris is the liar. People that believe her are simply “useful idiots”
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Post by osprey11 on Aug 14, 2024 15:09:30 GMT -5
The only reason we've been talking about "voter fraud" is because Trump claimed the 2020 election was stolen. Period. Why wasn't there "fraud" on any of the Congressional contests that year? You would think that whoever was responsible for filling out all those fake ballots for Biden would have been smart enough to check off Democrat Congress candidates, as well. If you had to fake millions of ballots in a short amount of time. Common sense. Just fill in the big guy.
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