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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 14, 2024 8:11:22 GMT -5
Used..... Buy more than you think you need......trust me. Grapple........the darn bucket will sit most of the time if you have one of these.......... We've got 3.....and a dozer.....the M8540 Kubota gets used the most. It'll run a Brown Tree Cutter of 5 feet or a cutter of 7 feet......the Brown is a beast. If you can run over it with the tractor the cutter will churn it up. And if you get a BTC with the lift where you can back into a big tree.....you can do a ton. What Billybob said about the older so you can avoid the nonsense of DEF. Cab is nice.....but....in the woods it's something else to have to PROTECT....... Rig up expanded metal grate on the right side for personal protection, maybe a little in the back.....and move on. As to the larger question......property.......longer separate topic......but do be careful and selective and willing to walk..... things are teetering.....at least that is our judgment. In fact....had this discussion with at a Prescribed Burn Association Board Meeting today with a member, a woman smarter than I am, who just closed on a conservation easement for a property she owns. The question that got discussed was whether she and her husband were going to do a 1031 Exchange ( Look that up. ). Short of it is that they may just be going to pay the taxes rather than shove the taxes forward by reinvesting in a "like property" because the downside risk on the land looked to her to be too high. Though......I'm wrong a lot.....ask Louann........... I'm inclined to agree with Louann. Smart idea on the 1031 in that instance.
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Post by anumber1 on Aug 14, 2024 14:32:40 GMT -5
Also, buy a quik connect for the three pt hitch, you'll thank me later
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 14, 2024 14:45:23 GMT -5
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Post by garycoleco on Aug 14, 2024 20:53:05 GMT -5
Buy a skidsteer instead. It's a much more versatile machine.
That said I have a new Kubota 3902 and an old B7500. Killer machines. The 7500 will run a 48in bush hog and the 3902 will run a 60. Both are wimpy compared to my Kubota svl95. It's an animal.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 15, 2024 0:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by richm on Aug 15, 2024 6:46:24 GMT -5
That's one pretty tractor.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 15, 2024 7:06:15 GMT -5
It is a good looking tractor but the engine is questionable.
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Post by anumber1 on Aug 15, 2024 7:14:58 GMT -5
Buy a skidsteer instead. It's a much more versatile machine. That said I have a new Kubota 3902 and an old B7500. Killer machines. The 7500 will run a 48in bush hog and the 3902 will run a 60. Both are wimpy compared to my Kubota svl95. It's an animal. that will tear up his lawn.
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Post by richm on Aug 15, 2024 7:48:07 GMT -5
Used..... Buy more than you think you need......trust me. Grapple........the darn bucket will sit most of the time if you have one of these.......... We've got 3.....and a dozer.....the M8540 Kubota gets used the most. It'll run a Brown Tree Cutter of 5 feet or a cutter of 7 feet......the Brown is a beast. If you can run over it with the tractor the cutter will churn it up. And if you get a BTC with the lift where you can back into a big tree.....you can do a ton. What Billybob said about the older so you can avoid the nonsense of DEF. Cab is nice.....but....in the woods it's something else to have to PROTECT....... Rig up expanded metal grate on the right side for personal protection, maybe a little in the back.....and move on. As to the larger question......property.......longer separate topic......but do be careful and selective and willing to walk.....things are teetering.....at least that is our judgment. In fact....had this discussion with at a Prescribed Burn Association Board Meeting today with a member, a woman smarter than I am, who just closed on a conservation easement for a property she owns. The question that got discussed was whether she and her husband were going to do a 1031 Exchange ( Look that up. ). Short of it is that they may just be going to pay the taxes rather than shove the taxes forward by reinvesting in a "like property" because the downside risk on the land looked to her to be too high. Though......I'm wrong a lot.....ask Louann........... Thanks for the reference - looked it up. We don't have any other properties to trade out with other than house and i think in selling a primary residence there is no capital gains tax. BUT but but we were talking last night about the possibility of doing some AG-type stuff on the property - say a 2.5 or 3-acre pecan or almond grove. There are only 5 acres of pasture, so maybe 1/2 in the nut trees and let the meat cow graze underneath the trees too. Not sure how that will affect costs or the ability to "write off" the tractor cost, planting, irrigation system, and trees. Then we wait 5-10 years for the trees to start producing. Need to talk to someone about this and if it is a feasible idea. The difference in the number of trees will be contingent on mature tree size and production. Google says between 20x20 apart and 60x60 cause big pecan trees can fill the gap. So between 12 and 100 trees per acre (needs to be 50% light under the trees). In 10-15 yrs it will be closer to 12 trees per acre and the 88 trees that produced a little when they were small have all been thinned away. Plus the estimate on production is only 650 pounds of nuts per acre, say $1.50/pound but i think it is a bit less than that but let's run with it. 650x1.50 = $975 per acre. So maybe $2,500/yr in nuts. Minus fertilizer, fuel, overall maintenance costs. So, maybe it produces $250-$500/yr in profit after 10 years but may allow us to "purchase and depreciate" the equipment, irrigation system, portion of a barn, etc. And maybe it'll be enough of the property for an AG exemption for tax purposes. Spent a bit of last night looking at $$$ stuff - be nice if we could do this slowly but some stuff falls in the "just do it" category. Amazing how much energy goes into trying to figure if you want a piece of property. Leave no stone uncovered. There might be a well, that would be nice.
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Post by johngalt on Aug 15, 2024 8:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by garycoleco on Aug 15, 2024 10:28:09 GMT -5
Used..... Buy more than you think you need......trust me. Grapple........the darn bucket will sit most of the time if you have one of these.......... We've got 3.....and a dozer.....the M8540 Kubota gets used the most. It'll run a Brown Tree Cutter of 5 feet or a cutter of 7 feet......the Brown is a beast. If you can run over it with the tractor the cutter will churn it up. And if you get a BTC with the lift where you can back into a big tree.....you can do a ton. What Billybob said about the older so you can avoid the nonsense of DEF. Cab is nice.....but....in the woods it's something else to have to PROTECT....... Rig up expanded metal grate on the right side for personal protection, maybe a little in the back.....and move on. As to the larger question......property.......longer separate topic......but do be careful and selective and willing to walk.....things are teetering.....at least that is our judgment. In fact....had this discussion with at a Prescribed Burn Association Board Meeting today with a member, a woman smarter than I am, who just closed on a conservation easement for a property she owns. The question that got discussed was whether she and her husband were going to do a 1031 Exchange ( Look that up. ). Short of it is that they may just be going to pay the taxes rather than shove the taxes forward by reinvesting in a "like property" because the downside risk on the land looked to her to be too high. Though......I'm wrong a lot.....ask Louann........... Thanks for the reference - looked it up. We don't have any other properties to trade out with other than house and i think in selling a primary residence there is no capital gains tax. BUT but but we were talking last night about the possibility of doing some AG-type stuff on the property - say a 2.5 or 3-acre pecan or almond grove. There are only 5 acres of pasture, so maybe 1/2 in the nut trees and let the meat cow graze underneath the trees too. Not sure how that will affect costs or the ability to "write off" the tractor cost, planting, irrigation system, and trees. Then we wait 5-10 years for the trees to start producing. Need to talk to someone about this and if it is a feasible idea. The difference in the number of trees will be contingent on mature tree size and production. Google says between 20x20 apart and 60x60 cause big pecan trees can fill the gap. So between 12 and 100 trees per acre (needs to be 50% light under the trees). In 10-15 yrs it will be closer to 12 trees per acre and the 88 trees that produced a little when they were small have all been thinned away. Plus the estimate on production is only 650 pounds of nuts per acre, say $1.50/pound but i think it is a bit less than that but let's run with it. 650x1.50 = $975 per acre. So maybe $2,500/yr in nuts. Minus fertilizer, fuel, overall maintenance costs. So, maybe it produces $250-$500/yr in profit after 10 years but may allow us to "purchase and depreciate" the equipment, irrigation system, portion of a barn, etc. And maybe it'll be enough of the property for an AG exemption for tax purposes. Spent a bit of last night looking at $$$ stuff - be nice if we could do this slowly but some stuff falls in the "just do it" category. Amazing how much energy goes into trying to figure if you want a piece of property. Leave no stone uncovered. There might be a well, that would be nice. Scratch trees. You'll never see a penny unless you're under 30. Take a really hard look at hazelnuts. You can plant them much more dense and they'll yield in 5 to 7 years. They're also very low maintenance
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Post by bswiv on Aug 15, 2024 13:09:30 GMT -5
Used..... Buy more than you think you need......trust me. Grapple........the darn bucket will sit most of the time if you have one of these.......... We've got 3.....and a dozer.....the M8540 Kubota gets used the most. It'll run a Brown Tree Cutter of 5 feet or a cutter of 7 feet......the Brown is a beast. If you can run over it with the tractor the cutter will churn it up. And if you get a BTC with the lift where you can back into a big tree.....you can do a ton. What Billybob said about the older so you can avoid the nonsense of DEF. Cab is nice.....but....in the woods it's something else to have to PROTECT....... Rig up expanded metal grate on the right side for personal protection, maybe a little in the back.....and move on. As to the larger question......property.......longer separate topic......but do be careful and selective and willing to walk.....things are teetering.....at least that is our judgment. In fact....had this discussion with at a Prescribed Burn Association Board Meeting today with a member, a woman smarter than I am, who just closed on a conservation easement for a property she owns. The question that got discussed was whether she and her husband were going to do a 1031 Exchange ( Look that up. ). Short of it is that they may just be going to pay the taxes rather than shove the taxes forward by reinvesting in a "like property" because the downside risk on the land looked to her to be too high. Though......I'm wrong a lot.....ask Louann........... Thanks for the reference - looked it up. We don't have any other properties to trade out with other than house and i think in selling a primary residence there is no capital gains tax. BUT but but we were talking last night about the possibility of doing some AG-type stuff on the property - say a 2.5 or 3-acre pecan or almond grove. There are only 5 acres of pasture, so maybe 1/2 in the nut trees and let the meat cow graze underneath the trees too. Not sure how that will affect costs or the ability to "write off" the tractor cost, planting, irrigation system, and trees. Then we wait 5-10 years for the trees to start producing. Need to talk to someone about this and if it is a feasible idea. The difference in the number of trees will be contingent on mature tree size and production. Google says between 20x20 apart and 60x60 cause big pecan trees can fill the gap. So between 12 and 100 trees per acre (needs to be 50% light under the trees). In 10-15 yrs it will be closer to 12 trees per acre and the 88 trees that produced a little when they were small have all been thinned away. Plus the estimate on production is only 650 pounds of nuts per acre, say $1.50/pound but i think it is a bit less than that but let's run with it. 650x1.50 = $975 per acre. So maybe $2,500/yr in nuts. Minus fertilizer, fuel, overall maintenance costs. So, maybe it produces $250-$500/yr in profit after 10 years but may allow us to "purchase and depreciate" the equipment, irrigation system, portion of a barn, etc. And maybe it'll be enough of the property for an AG exemption for tax purposes. Spent a bit of last night looking at $$$ stuff - be nice if we could do this slowly but some stuff falls in the "just do it" category. Amazing how much energy goes into trying to figure if you want a piece of property. Leave no stone uncovered. There might be a well, that would be nice. You mentioned "cow"..... look up silvopasture. We've a man running his on a piece we own over west of Stake....does wonders for the trees and plenty of room for the cows.....and...AG.... No fertilizer or irrigation to install....just plant trees....
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Post by richm on Aug 15, 2024 14:28:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the reference - looked it up. We don't have any other properties to trade out with other than house and i think in selling a primary residence there is no capital gains tax. BUT but but we were talking last night about the possibility of doing some AG-type stuff on the property - say a 2.5 or 3-acre pecan or almond grove. There are only 5 acres of pasture, so maybe 1/2 in the nut trees and let the meat cow graze underneath the trees too. Not sure how that will affect costs or the ability to "write off" the tractor cost, planting, irrigation system, and trees. Then we wait 5-10 years for the trees to start producing. Need to talk to someone about this and if it is a feasible idea. The difference in the number of trees will be contingent on mature tree size and production. Google says between 20x20 apart and 60x60 cause big pecan trees can fill the gap. So between 12 and 100 trees per acre (needs to be 50% light under the trees). In 10-15 yrs it will be closer to 12 trees per acre and the 88 trees that produced a little when they were small have all been thinned away. Plus the estimate on production is only 650 pounds of nuts per acre, say $1.50/pound but i think it is a bit less than that but let's run with it. 650x1.50 = $975 per acre. So maybe $2,500/yr in nuts. Minus fertilizer, fuel, overall maintenance costs. So, maybe it produces $250-$500/yr in profit after 10 years but may allow us to "purchase and depreciate" the equipment, irrigation system, portion of a barn, etc. And maybe it'll be enough of the property for an AG exemption for tax purposes. Spent a bit of last night looking at $$$ stuff - be nice if we could do this slowly but some stuff falls in the "just do it" category. Amazing how much energy goes into trying to figure if you want a piece of property. Leave no stone uncovered. There might be a well, that would be nice. Scratch trees. You'll never see a penny unless you're under 30. Take a really hard look at hazelnuts. You can plant them much more dense and they'll yield in 5 to 7 years. They're also very low maintenance. Will check those out too. The Pecan trees are very popular in that area. I'm not planning to try and support myself on them. More or less something to do in retirement. Not like this piece is on a lake where could fish my life away like i'd like.
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Post by richm on Aug 15, 2024 14:31:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the reference - looked it up. We don't have any other properties to trade out with other than house and i think in selling a primary residence there is no capital gains tax. BUT but but we were talking last night about the possibility of doing some AG-type stuff on the property - say a 2.5 or 3-acre pecan or almond grove. There are only 5 acres of pasture, so maybe 1/2 in the nut trees and let the meat cow graze underneath the trees too. Not sure how that will affect costs or the ability to "write off" the tractor cost, planting, irrigation system, and trees. Then we wait 5-10 years for the trees to start producing. Need to talk to someone about this and if it is a feasible idea. The difference in the number of trees will be contingent on mature tree size and production. Google says between 20x20 apart and 60x60 cause big pecan trees can fill the gap. So between 12 and 100 trees per acre (needs to be 50% light under the trees). In 10-15 yrs it will be closer to 12 trees per acre and the 88 trees that produced a little when they were small have all been thinned away. Plus the estimate on production is only 650 pounds of nuts per acre, say $1.50/pound but i think it is a bit less than that but let's run with it. 650x1.50 = $975 per acre. So maybe $2,500/yr in nuts. Minus fertilizer, fuel, overall maintenance costs. So, maybe it produces $250-$500/yr in profit after 10 years but may allow us to "purchase and depreciate" the equipment, irrigation system, portion of a barn, etc. And maybe it'll be enough of the property for an AG exemption for tax purposes. Spent a bit of last night looking at $$$ stuff - be nice if we could do this slowly but some stuff falls in the "just do it" category. Amazing how much energy goes into trying to figure if you want a piece of property. Leave no stone uncovered. There might be a well, that would be nice. You mentioned "cow"..... look up silvopasture. We've a man running his on a piece we own over west of Stake....does wonders for the trees and plenty of room for the cows.....and...AG.... No fertilizer or irrigation to install....just plant trees.... Looked that up too. It's only 5 acres of pasture and 1, maybe 2 cows at a time - for the freezer.
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Post by richm on Aug 15, 2024 14:32:03 GMT -5
Getting some excellent feedback here - many thanks!
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