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Post by 4ward on Aug 8, 2024 19:17:07 GMT -5
The extreme importance/influence of any VP of our country. Dig as deep as you want, should be fun.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 8, 2024 19:46:07 GMT -5
With the advanced age of Biden and Trump the VP pick was probably much more of a consideration. But ordinarily I do not see a VP pick swaying many voters.
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Post by Zif on Aug 8, 2024 19:49:44 GMT -5
HW Bush and Cheney were shot callers behind the scenes. Additionally, LBJ was too, quite literally some would say.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 8, 2024 20:11:43 GMT -5
HW Bush and Cheney were shot callers behind the scenes. Additionally, LBJ was too, quite literally some would say. With Reagan’s dementia HW probably had no choice.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 8, 2024 20:21:23 GMT -5
It depends whether or not they have the courage to do the right thing when it comes time to certify the election.
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Post by 4ward on Aug 8, 2024 20:29:40 GMT -5
It depends whether or not they have the courage to do the right thing when it comes time to certify the election. I respect him for that. Good example.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 8, 2024 20:37:17 GMT -5
But does a VP pick really cause people on the fence to change their votes? I think not.
You think a VP choice is gonna sway BT to vote for Trump?
You think a VP choice is gonna sway Illinois to vote for Harris?
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Post by 4ward on Aug 8, 2024 21:00:43 GMT -5
I think not also. No And No.
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Post by johnnybandit on Aug 8, 2024 21:20:54 GMT -5
The extreme importance/influence of any VP of our country. Dig as deep as you want, should be fun.The current claim... At least on this uneducated site... Is the the VP does not matter....But From 1960 to now.... Some have been very significant... LBJ was added to Kennedy's Campaign.... To Balance out a Catholic from the Northeast.... With a Protestant from the South.... And it worked.....And then when Reagan won the nomination... He was far and away the most far right Republican nominee..... So they paired him with George HW Bush... A known Liberal Republican from the North East..... The next one was Obama....Who chose a plain talking southern sounding mid atlantic white boy... That came up the hard way... To balance his ticket..... And this is the big mistake in the democratic party... The powers wanted Biden to step aside because the dems wants a woman president... And they thought they had one in hillary.... IF Biden had ran right behind Obama... There is almost no chance trump would have ever happened.... And our country would not be in this shit show right now... Clinton had a southern VP that was way farther right than he was.... But it did not matter.... Because the economy was booming the republicans could not bring a serious challenger...And his VP AL Gore nearly beat George Junior.... It was a hell of a lot closer than when Biden beat trump.... .George Junior was a nothing President until 911 but he was a GREAT crisis president..... Well his VP Gheney and his handler Carl Rove were great crisis presidents....Bush Junior did not matter... He was just the sometimes charming front man that could not pronounce words.... Because of his store bought southern accent...
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 8, 2024 21:22:59 GMT -5
DEMENTIA DON told an entire story today about: -being on a helicopter w Willie Brown; -that was going down/emergency landing!; -Brown was ranting against Kamala during the ride
....and it turns out none of it happened.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 8, 2024 21:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 8, 2024 21:31:58 GMT -5
All some people with TDS can think of is Trump. They find a way to weave him into every facet of their lives.
Like : “I finished too soon?” Honest darling Trump made me do it!”
Or
“I didn’t flush? - No it was Trump that snuck in here and took a dump!”
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 8, 2024 21:35:45 GMT -5
Trump on his January 6 speech: "Nobody has spoken to crowds bigger than me. If you look at Martin Luther King when he did his speech, his great speech, and you look at ours ... we had more."
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Post by dragonbait on Aug 8, 2024 21:36:44 GMT -5
But does a VP pick really cause people on the fence to change their votes? I think not. You think a VP choice is gonna sway BT to vote for Trump? You think a VP choice is gonna sway Illinois to vote for Harris? I think a VP choice can sway a person to look the other way, for example I was against Obama until McCain chose Palin, had he chosen Romney who he disliked but would have been a great ticket, strong foreign policy with McCain and strong economic policy from Romney I would have voted for them, but McCain picking Palin was a bridge to far for me. But that was back when I was an independent, after watching the shit show the republicans have foisted upon us these past 7+ years of clown show I will vote blue no matter who from now on
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 8, 2024 21:38:32 GMT -5
Oh, and Dementia Donold looks like shit.
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