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Post by toldya on Aug 1, 2024 20:50:14 GMT -5
Another fake right-wing outrage. Go figure. Next they'll be talking about banging M&M's or upset that Snickers might take the dick vain out of their candy bar. You need to stay out of the candy aisle.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 1, 2024 21:04:41 GMT -5
Apparently her questionable test was from a Russian Body not recognized by the IOC. Both her and her opponent in that bout were ruled ineligible for the same thing. But she has always identified as a woman. Since childhood. I can't imagine a tranny fairing very well in Turkey. She has always competed in gurls/women's sports. She didn't pull a Leah Thomas and suddenly become a woman You’ve never heard Turkish Navy jokes? Lot of gayness in the Islamic world, especially concerning the Turks. Man-boy love is very acceptable among the Muhammedans. Read about all the boy-child rape the Muslims did during the sack of Constantinople. I'm aware of the ME view of women and the prevalence of homos there. But I just don't think this girls parents had a little boy and from birth said your a girl and raised her to fight girls secretly being a boy. This is not her first competition. She has been competing at this level for years and has received more than one ass beating. If it's indeed a man then so be it. It's sick. But it doesn't appear that's the case. Why has nobody from her other matches and competitions never complained or protested her presence? With all this scrutiny and talk I kinda feel bad for her. She's probably been teased her whole life for being manly and not very feminine and now 1/3 of the world is calling her a man and saying she shouldn't be competing. With the current information available and at hand I just don't believe she's a man. I can be proved wrong and it wouldn't be the first time. But as of now I don't think she is.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 1, 2024 21:07:57 GMT -5
Shouldn’t a blood test make this pretty simple. X you are female, XY you are male.
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Post by toldya on Aug 1, 2024 21:12:31 GMT -5
The question is does the subject have a penis and/or has the subject ever had a penis ?
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Post by OhMy on Aug 1, 2024 21:13:25 GMT -5
Shouldn’t a blood test make this pretty simple. X you are female, XY you are male. Both genders have an X chromosome.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Aug 1, 2024 21:29:20 GMT -5
Weren’t athletes barred from competing years ago because they had too much male hormones?
I’m nearly positive that this was the case.
Why can’t they just RE institute those old time competition standards?
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 1, 2024 21:37:00 GMT -5
You’ve never heard Turkish Navy jokes? Lot of gayness in the Islamic world, especially concerning the Turks. Man-boy love is very acceptable among the Muhammedans. Read about all the boy-child rape the Muslims did during the sack of Constantinople. I'm aware of the ME view of women and the prevalence of homos there. But I just don't think this girls parents had a little boy and from birth said your a girl and raised her to fight girls secretly being a boy. This is not her first competition. She has been competing at this level for years and has received more than one ass beating. If it's indeed a man then so be it. It's sick. But it doesn't appear that's the case. Why has nobody from her other matches and competitions never complained or protested her presence? With all this scrutiny and talk I kinda feel bad for her. She's probably been teased her whole life for being manly and not very feminine and now 1/3 of the world is calling her a man and saying she shouldn't be competing. With the current information available and at hand I just don't believe she's a man. I can be proved wrong and it wouldn't be the first time. But as of now I don't think she is. Wouldn’t a medical exam or his/her genitalia or even something like an ultrasound be dispositive? If he or she was born a male, then he would have only what amounts to an impersonation of a 😒censored medical term😒 and no internal ovaries or uterus. Should be simple to check.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 1, 2024 22:10:05 GMT -5
Shouldn’t a blood test make this pretty simple. X you are female, XY you are male. Both genders have an X chromosome. But only males have Y, so a XY blood test should disqualify from competing in female competition.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 1, 2024 22:52:41 GMT -5
Both genders have an X chromosome. But only males have Y, so a XY blood test should disqualify from competing in female competition. What reading I’ve done about the situation indicates that Imane Kheli was blood tested and previously disqualified from women’s boxing in years past for having XY. The vague response is that some conditions can cause a legit female to have XY. But I am not aware that any such medical explanation has been given.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 1, 2024 23:16:09 GMT -5
But only males have Y, so a XY blood test should disqualify from competing in female competition. What reading I’ve done about the situation indicates that Imane Kheli was blood tested and previously disqualified from women’s boxing in years past for having XY. The vague response is that some conditions can cause a legit female to have XY. But I am not aware that any such medical explanation has been given. Looks like a dude to me.
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 1, 2024 23:52:58 GMT -5
What reading I’ve done about the situation indicates that Imane Kheli was blood tested and previously disqualified from women’s boxing in years past for having XY. The vague response is that some conditions can cause a legit female to have XY. But I am not aware that any such medical explanation has been given. Looks like a dude to me. I just read there is something called Swyer Syndrome that gives a person XY chromosomes but they have a formed and functional 😒female sexual organ that is censored but fragmented or missing internal sex organs. They’re considered normal female until their teenage years. Then their body skips normal puberty and they develop a tall, masculine appearance unless the subject takes hormone therapy. That *might* be what happened here if there’s been no purposeful sex change.
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Post by Tarponator on Aug 1, 2024 23:58:48 GMT -5
Despite rumors to the contrary, nature doesn't do binary perfectly.
Oh, the horror.
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Post by bswiv on Aug 2, 2024 5:18:18 GMT -5
There's a easy answer to all this..............
Simply have everyone compete on the same level......even eliminate the weight classes......
Not that hard.
And dispense with the no-drugs nonsense.....let 'em dope as they see fit.....again....it'd be a level field.
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Post by throttle on Aug 2, 2024 7:16:04 GMT -5
The one with 12" more reach? And a dick?
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Post by cadman on Aug 2, 2024 8:03:20 GMT -5
The question is does the subject have a penis and/or has the subject ever had a penis ? The answer seems to be no. she was born female with female genitalia from what I have read online from numerous sources. She may be one of those rare women who are genetically male. She has an XY chromosome but female body parts. It does happen. Either that or her family raised her as a woman for some reason since infancy, which I doubt. There is question whether she failed a genetics test or had a high level of testosterone or failed some other test. Results are confidential and various people have made various claims without any evidence to support their claims. She definitely looks male from an outward appearance, in my opinion, but there are women who have male characteristics. She is not transgender or ever claimed to be transgender from all reports. it is an interesting situation. It could be as simple as some coach or other official, noticing her abilities used steroid treatments to make her stronger.
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