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Post by toldya on Aug 4, 2024 11:40:05 GMT -5
Perhaps. But be aware a major reason for this is because mainstream media wills it to be so via the power of suggestion. ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, Politico, The Drudge Report, The New York Times, fill in the blank with whatever news source besides Fox News and some right wing websites and radio personalities, are all purposely creating the momentum for her by what stories they do and don’t run and how they frame the stories. Using the football analogy, the mainstream press are the commentators in the box, most of the refs, and much of the crowd in her home stadium. They can’t win the game alone but they help alot. They can cover for many of her fumbles and exaggerate the Trump team’s mistakes. Now as for Georgia, I don’t know the Republican politics there. I can see many “real” Republicans refusing to vote for Trump. I can’t see any real Republican supporting Harris. Not supporting Trump is different than supporting Harris. Endorsing Harris is selling your political soul to a bankrupt cause. One doesn’t affirmatively advance the radical Left just to spite Trump. I am wondering if Georgia is one of the last holdouts of the old school party and they’re hoping that MAGA ideology won’t survive a loss this election. The problem for many Republicans, myself included, is that we do disagree with Harris Politically. We do not support her policies or agenda. But as a person, she is not fundamentally corrupt. There is nothing that makes her unfit to be President as a person. I would just prefer a person with different ideology. She has her faults as every does, but other than being too liberal, there is not real objection to her, as a person. Trump is completely different. I do not agree with Trump politically, since i think he is lying 100% of the time and who really knows what he might try to do as President. I can not support him as a human being. He is corrupt. He is a liar and a cheat. He is a crooked businessman who stabs people in the back any chance he gets. His only concern is power and money for himself and what others can do for him. He is not qualified to be President due to dishonesty. I can not support him as a person and believe he will damage the Republican party and this nation for decades to come. i believe he will damage the constitution and everything in stands for if given the chance. Anyone who supports Trump has sold their soul to the orange jesus who will screw them and the country first chance he gets. He should have never been in office and due to events after he lost in 2020, he should never be in office again. You claim to be a Republican and you saw what Trump did policy wise as well as what Biden did. You don't seem like much of a Republican . What do you do for your party and for the Republican agendas ?
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 4, 2024 11:46:42 GMT -5
That is a great question for all. What are you doing to get your candidate over the finish line. Donations, phone banking, canvassing, volunteering as a poll watcher.
My guess is a whole lotta whining and crying on the internet.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 4, 2024 11:51:17 GMT -5
That is a great question for all. What are you doing to get your candidate over the finish line. Donations, phone banking, canvassing, volunteering as a poll watcher. My guess is a whole lotta whining and crying on the internet. The DNC is just warming up the party machine now. They are about to put on a clinic on professional political organization, well run campaigning, and get out the vote. You may even hear a thing or two about abortion. Down ticket it's going to be a blood bath to use Trump's harmless rhetoric.
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Post by tonyroma on Aug 4, 2024 11:57:08 GMT -5
I’m hoping Trump goes to Texas and replays the speech from ATL. Talk shit about Abbott, that Cruz seat would get mounted on the wall.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 4, 2024 12:19:47 GMT -5
That is a great question for all. What are you doing to get your candidate over the finish line. Donations, phone banking, canvassing, volunteering as a poll watcher. My guess is a whole lotta whining and crying on the internet. Donations primarily........to those I feel can make a difference.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 4, 2024 12:21:57 GMT -5
I’m hoping Trump goes to Texas and replays the speech from ATL. Talk shit about Abbott, that Cruz seat would get mounted on the wall. He's saving that for Pennsylvania and Kentucky
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 4, 2024 12:48:31 GMT -5
Well, at least his surrogates aren't going on Sunday TV and repeating the slurs. Oh, wait, what?
Oh, they are so fucked.
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Post by gardawg on Aug 4, 2024 16:39:19 GMT -5
I put a couple of bumper stickers on my Mercedes Benz ... "Trickle Down Works For Me" and "Millionaires For Trump" gotta spread the message!
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Post by bullfrog on Aug 13, 2024 12:49:10 GMT -5
Perhaps. But be aware a major reason for this is because mainstream media wills it to be so via the power of suggestion. ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, Politico, The Drudge Report, The New York Times, fill in the blank with whatever news source besides Fox News and some right wing websites and radio personalities, are all purposely creating the momentum for her by what stories they do and don’t run and how they frame the stories. Using the football analogy, the mainstream press are the commentators in the box, most of the refs, and much of the crowd in her home stadium. They can’t win the game alone but they help alot. They can cover for many of her fumbles and exaggerate the Trump team’s mistakes. Now as for Georgia, I don’t know the Republican politics there. I can see many “real” Republicans refusing to vote for Trump. I can’t see any real Republican supporting Harris. Not supporting Trump is different than supporting Harris. Endorsing Harris is selling your political soul to a bankrupt cause. One doesn’t affirmatively advance the radical Left just to spite Trump. I am wondering if Georgia is one of the last holdouts of the old school party and they’re hoping that MAGA ideology won’t survive a loss this election. The problem for many Republicans, myself included, is that we do disagree with Harris Politically. We do not support her policies or agenda. But as a person, she is not fundamentally corrupt. There is nothing that makes her unfit to be President as a person. I would just prefer a person with different ideology. She has her faults as every does, but other than being too liberal, there is not real objection to her, as a person. Trump is completely different. I do not agree with Trump politically, since i think he is lying 100% of the time and who really knows what he might try to do as President. I can not support him as a human being. He is corrupt. He is a liar and a cheat. He is a crooked businessman who stabs people in the back any chance he gets. His only concern is power and money for himself and what others can do for him. He is not qualified to be President due to dishonesty. I can not support him as a person and believe he will damage the Republican party and this nation for decades to come. i believe he will damage the constitution and everything in stands for if given the chance. Anyone who supports Trump has sold their soul to the orange jesus who will screw them and the country first chance he gets. He should have never been in office and due to events after he lost in 2020, he should never be in office again. I take the view that if a person knows what someone stands for in advance and still votes for that person, then the voter is responsible for what that person does consistent what was known in advance. I don’t disagree with much of the political policies Trump claims to stand for. But I know in advance he’s likely insincere, and I also know he likely poses a spiritual threat to American Christians who idolize the United States. Anything he does to advance those things I’m concerned about, I’m responsible for if I vote for him. The Christianity part I would suppose to be self-explanatory. As it relates to the insincere part, I believe it does more harm for the Right for frauds to attempt to advance Rightist policies who don’t understand or believe in them. If Trump damages the Right by enacting policies that undermine actual Right ideology, then I’m responsible where I have advanced warning in my gut. Although I’m less concerned about his effect on the political Right than I am on American Christians. If Harris advances a radical leftist agenda, and we all can reasonably predict she aims to, you’ll be responsible for it if you vote for her. That’s how I see it.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 13, 2024 13:02:56 GMT -5
The problem for many Republicans, myself included, is that we do disagree with Harris Politically. We do not support her policies or agenda. But as a person, she is not fundamentally corrupt. There is nothing that makes her unfit to be President as a person. I would just prefer a person with different ideology. She has her faults as every does, but other than being too liberal, there is not real objection to her, as a person. Trump is completely different. I do not agree with Trump politically, since i think he is lying 100% of the time and who really knows what he might try to do as President. I can not support him as a human being. He is corrupt. He is a liar and a cheat. He is a crooked businessman who stabs people in the back any chance he gets. His only concern is power and money for himself and what others can do for him. He is not qualified to be President due to dishonesty. I can not support him as a person and believe he will damage the Republican party and this nation for decades to come. i believe he will damage the constitution and everything in stands for if given the chance. Anyone who supports Trump has sold their soul to the orange jesus who will screw them and the country first chance he gets. He should have never been in office and due to events after he lost in 2020, he should never be in office again. I take the view that if a person knows what someone stands for in advance and still votes for that person, then the voter is responsible for what that person does consistent what was known in advance. I don’t disagree with much of the political policies Trump claims to stand for. But I know in advance he’s likely insincere, and I also know he likely poses a spiritual threat to American Christians who idolize the United States. Anything he does to advance those things I’m concerned about, I’m responsible for if I vote for him. The Christianity part I would suppose to be self-explanatory. As it relates to the insincere part, I believe it does more harm for the Right for frauds to attempt to advance Rightist policies who don’t understand or believe in them. If Trump damages the Right by enacting policies that undermine actual Right ideology, then I’m responsible where I have advanced warning in my gut. Although I’m less concerned about his effect on the political Right than I am on American Christians. If Harris advances a radical leftist agenda, and we all can reasonably predict she aims to, you’ll be responsible for it if you vote for her. That’s how I see it. What do you mean if, are you not then responsible for what Trump did in office considering you voted for him the last time he got elected?
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Post by toldya on Aug 13, 2024 13:10:03 GMT -5
Trump did a fine job in office. That's why you have to drag out of someone any thing negative about that. That's the reality of the situation and no amount of BS is going to change that.
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Post by meateater on Aug 13, 2024 14:17:23 GMT -5
Trump did a fine job in office. That's why you have to drag out of someone any thing negative about that. That's the reality of the situation and no amount of BS is going to change that. excuses, excuses,excuses, no policy , no plans, totally in denial of the last 4 years.
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