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Post by toldya on Aug 3, 2024 5:57:53 GMT -5
I haven't seen Trump do anything bad policy wise worth mentioning and haven't heard much from the other side . Maybe what you saw is them not saying anything negative about Trump. I know it drives people crazy on here. A lot of people are not too concerned over how he acts or what he says . It's more of what he did and didn't do and they don't fault him there. Lest We Forget the Horrors: A Catalog of Trump’s Worst Cruelties, Collusions, Corruptions, and Crimes www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-atrocities-1-1-056Nothing in there that even added up would compare to the harm Biden did to this Country with his border policies and that is not opinion . Nothing to compare what Biden did to harm our Country through his climate agenda . Nothing compared to the harm Biden did to our Country through his DEI hires.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 3, 2024 7:30:07 GMT -5
Are they still your friends ? Most yes but at least one I've had to withdraw from I'd say about 50-50. We curtailed some social activities with some as all they can relate to is politics and it's mostly Trump supporters. You can be talking about children's books and all of sudden someone will say something about "children's books is what's on Biden's teleprompter". The rest will yuck it up and the conversation goes to politics. You say something about the the prisoners coming home. You seldom get a "I'm glad they're back" but you get 30 minutes diatribe on on why Biden didn't do it sooner. You point out Trump had the same opportunity and they pile on. "You must be voting for that Indian bitch or black woman or whatever she claims to be today." You point out you're not voting for her but if you were , her race, ethnicity and gender wouldn't matter. Just the ability to govern would. It's sad really. But they're entitled to their opinion (evidently much more then I am mine) and that's what's great about living here.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 3, 2024 7:50:09 GMT -5
Cyclist has always had a potty mouth. I knew Illinoisfisherman before he went deep Trump. Many, many years ago. He was always reasonable and could discuss things rationally. He appears to be incapable of that now. He has resorted to what most cultist do. Call names and vilify folks when he runs out of rationality. I've had a few friends that threw away all reasoning over Trump. Some became so stuck in rhe rabbit hole they lost friends and family. These weren't crazy loonies or typical dumb rednecks but once good rational folks. Then they became something else. It's kinda scary the level of change in their personality and mannerisms some went through. Me too but it was exactly the opposite of your example. They were afflicted with TDS so bad they became insanely different people.
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Post by toldya on Aug 3, 2024 8:07:54 GMT -5
Most yes but at least one I've had to withdraw from I'd say about 50-50. We curtailed some social activities with some as all they can relate to is politics and it's mostly Trump supporters. You can be talking about children's books and all of sudden someone will say something about "children's books is what's on Biden's teleprompter". The rest will yuck it up and the conversation goes to politics. You say something about the the prisoners coming home. You seldom get a "I'm glad they're back" but you get 30 minutes diatribe on on why Biden didn't do it sooner. You point out Trump had the same opportunity and they pile on. "You must be voting for that Indian bitch or black woman or whatever she claims to be today." You point out you're not voting for her but if you were , her race, ethnicity and gender wouldn't matter. Just the ability to govern would. It's sad really. But they're entitled to their opinion (evidently much more then I am mine) and that's what's great about living here. Trump becoming President and the great job he did for this Country while in office is something to brag about . If the left had anything to brag about it would be a different story . It was the left that rode Trump's ass even before he had a chance to prove himself as President. If the left wouldn't mention race or gender when appointing or hiring someone they might be judged on their performance only. Anyone that is not laughing about and being concerned about what Biden and his administration has done in the last 4 years is not concerned about this Country anyway, just trying to win. Yes, a google search may find a squirrel screwing a rabbit while a bird is perched on it's head, but that is not what is going on here in the U.S. and there is no comparison to what Trump did in office to what Biden did. Anyone that supports Biden and/or the left is not someone many want to spend time with and it would probably be hard to not tell them about it ,especially if they have children . As for the prisoners coming back, when you have Harris standing there with her word salad and Biden standing there looking like he hasn't a clue as to what's going on it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 3, 2024 9:42:39 GMT -5
I'd say about 50-50. We curtailed some social activities with some as all they can relate to is politics and it's mostly Trump supporters. You can be talking about children's books and all of sudden someone will say something about "children's books is what's on Biden's teleprompter". The rest will yuck it up and the conversation goes to politics. You say something about the the prisoners coming home. You seldom get a "I'm glad they're back" but you get 30 minutes diatribe on on why Biden didn't do it sooner. You point out Trump had the same opportunity and they pile on. "You must be voting for that Indian bitch or black woman or whatever she claims to be today." You point out you're not voting for her but if you were , her race, ethnicity and gender wouldn't matter. Just the ability to govern would. It's sad really. But they're entitled to their opinion (evidently much more then I am mine) and that's what's great about living here. Trump becoming President and the great job he did for this Country while in office is something to brag about . If the left had anything to brag about it would be a different story . It was the left that rode Trump's ass even before he had a chance to prove himself as President. If the left wouldn't mention race or gender when appointing or hiring someone they might be judged on their performance only. Anyone that is not laughing about and being concerned about what Biden and his administration has done in the last 4 years is not concerned about this Country anyway, just trying to win. Yes, a google search may find a squirrel screwing a rabbit while a bird is perched on it's head, but that is not what is going on here in the U.S. and there is no comparison to what Trump did in office to what Biden did. Anyone that supports Biden and/or the left is not someone many want to spend time with and it would probably be hard to not tell them about it ,especially if they have children . As for the prisoners coming back, when you have Harris standing there with her word salad and Biden standing there looking like he hasn't a clue as to what's going on it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be. I rest my case your Honor. (Sidebar your Honor? Would you please point out to my esteemed opponent that I'm not in support of Harris. I was merely commenting to another participant regarding friends and politics in today's world.) "As for the prisoners coming back, when you have Harris standing there with her word salad and Biden standing there looking like he hasn't a clue as to what's going on it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be.So you're saying, "it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be." You don't think it was in the best interest of the United States, but "maybe" it was?
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Post by toldya on Aug 3, 2024 10:33:04 GMT -5
Trump becoming President and the great job he did for this Country while in office is something to brag about . If the left had anything to brag about it would be a different story . It was the left that rode Trump's ass even before he had a chance to prove himself as President. If the left wouldn't mention race or gender when appointing or hiring someone they might be judged on their performance only. Anyone that is not laughing about and being concerned about what Biden and his administration has done in the last 4 years is not concerned about this Country anyway, just trying to win. Yes, a google search may find a squirrel screwing a rabbit while a bird is perched on it's head, but that is not what is going on here in the U.S. and there is no comparison to what Trump did in office to what Biden did. Anyone that supports Biden and/or the left is not someone many want to spend time with and it would probably be hard to not tell them about it ,especially if they have children . As for the prisoners coming back, when you have Harris standing there with her word salad and Biden standing there looking like he hasn't a clue as to what's going on it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be. I rest my case your Honor. (Sidebar your Honor? Would you please point out to my esteemed opponent that I'm not in support of Harris. I was merely commenting to another participant regarding friends and politics in today's world.) "As for the prisoners coming back, when you have Harris standing there with her word salad and Biden standing there looking like he hasn't a clue as to what's going on it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be.So you're saying, "it's hard to imagine that they know what they are doing and that it is in the best interest of the U.S., although it may be." You don't think it was in the best interest of the United States, but "maybe" it was?I didn't state an opinion either way. I don't think either way on that and haven't done anything to form an opinion on whether it was in our best interest. If I had access I would do as you asked in regards to your esteemed opponent, but I don't know what that would have to do with what we are talking about.
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Post by luapnor on Aug 3, 2024 13:18:39 GMT -5
I would be surprised if it was an air strike in Iran. Sounds like a ground operation. But a very successful one!👍 As far as tracking military activity, all military aircraft carry ADS-B but mostly keep it off. When it is activated it’s because they want everyone to know about them. Yes. But with a little imagination you can probably guess why a couple of KC135s are floating around over the Med. Most of what I see is cargo or tankers. I ve got a couple of CIA birds I watch. Though they haven't been as active or at least not when I'm watching the last week or two. The ONLY reason the fighters are seen is because they want to be seen. And they will routinely flip them on over Europe and say hello before flipping them back off. It was indeed an "Israeli" airstrike. Which means they launched that bitch well off the coast in the Gulf orrrrr from Jordan maybe? Either way I wo.fer if Israel or the U.S. had a ground team to paint the target or if it was just GPS guided? The precision of taking out only his apartment makes me believe they had somebody in Tehran. But I am in no way a tactical or military expert. Just somebody with too much ti.e on bishands that reads a LOT It was a logical guess but I'm surprised CadBoy didn't call you out on how wrong you were.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 3, 2024 16:07:26 GMT -5
Yes. But with a little imagination you can probably guess why a couple of KC135s are floating around over the Med. Most of what I see is cargo or tankers. I ve got a couple of CIA birds I watch. Though they haven't been as active or at least not when I'm watching the last week or two. The ONLY reason the fighters are seen is because they want to be seen. And they will routinely flip them on over Europe and say hello before flipping them back off. It was indeed an "Israeli" airstrike. Which means they launched that bitch well off the coast in the Gulf orrrrr from Jordan maybe? Either way I wo.fer if Israel or the U.S. had a ground team to paint the target or if it was just GPS guided? The precision of taking out only his apartment makes me believe they had somebody in Tehran. But I am in no way a tactical or military expert. Just somebody with too much ti.e on bishands that reads a LOT It was a logical guess but I'm surprised CadBoy didn't call you out on how wrong you were. Was I? I asked myself this. But it still remains that we and the Brits were moving a hell of a lot of hardware around a couple of days proceeding this. Maybe it was a distraction? Maybe just coincidence. Maybe the "airstrike" story was just a cover so they wouldn't be looking for ground assets human or otherwise until they could be removed to a safe area. Or you could be right and I very well may have been absolutely a zillion miles off target. But what ever the reason they were doing it the movements caught my attention. One thing I do know for sure what you see is only what they want you to see.
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Post by conchydong on Aug 3, 2024 16:51:42 GMT -5
The whole idea is to keep your enemies guessing. Never admit how these types of operations are done.
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Post by biminitwisted on Aug 3, 2024 18:23:22 GMT -5
The US Secret Service must of been in charge of his security.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 4, 2024 0:00:44 GMT -5
The whole idea is to keep your enemies guessing. Never admit how these types of operations are done. I agree. It's almost as if everything is one giant psyop. I question everything I hear and and getting to the point to question what is seen.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Aug 4, 2024 21:18:11 GMT -5
Busy day at Al Udeid.
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Post by ferris1248 on Aug 5, 2024 5:50:09 GMT -5
Yes. But with a little imagination you can probably guess why a couple of KC135s are floating around over the Med. Most of what I see is cargo or tankers. I ve got a couple of CIA birds I watch. Though they haven't been as active or at least not when I'm watching the last week or two. The ONLY reason the fighters are seen is because they want to be seen. And they will routinely flip them on over Europe and say hello before flipping them back off. It was indeed an "Israeli" airstrike. Which means they launched that bitch well off the coast in the Gulf orrrrr from Jordan maybe? Either way I wo.fer if Israel or the U.S. had a ground team to paint the target or if it was just GPS guided? The precision of taking out only his apartment makes me believe they had somebody in Tehran. But I am in no way a tactical or military expert. Just somebody with too much ti.e on bishands that reads a LOT It was a logical guess but I'm surprised CadBoy didn't call you out on how wrong you were. Like he did on your denial of saying there there would never be F-16s in Ukraine?
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Post by luapnor on Aug 5, 2024 8:42:25 GMT -5
It was a logical guess but I'm surprised CadBoy didn't call you out on how wrong you were. Was I? I asked myself this. But it still remains that we and the Brits were moving a hell of a lot of hardware around a couple of days proceeding this. Maybe it was a distraction? Maybe just coincidence. Maybe the "airstrike" story was just a cover so they wouldn't be looking for ground assets human or otherwise until they could be removed to a safe area. Or you could be right and I very well may have been absolutely a zillion miles off target. But what ever the reason they were doing it the movements caught my attention. One thing I do know for sure what you see is only what they want you to see. They acknowledged it was a placed explosive and not an airstrike. If you think they are hiding that, the Iranians would prove it. You think the Iranians cant tell the difference between a missile/bomb vs an explosive?
It seems that "we" are getting ready to start a war with Iran. Another insane unnecessary war that we have no business being involved in. Who is in charge of the USA military? It certainly isnt Brandon.
Time to Wag the Dog, I guess.
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Post by Captj on Aug 5, 2024 13:50:37 GMT -5
Further, we should make sure Iran and North Korea have nuclear weapons. Isn't that what you haters want?
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