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Post by bullfrog on Jul 26, 2024 19:16:46 GMT -5
I’m not saying he isn’t a broken record, or that he has or hasn’t learned. I see some sign that he’s evolved by virtue of the fact he’s effectively taken over the Republican party and put out the old guard. That was no mean feat. But its only one step. He now has to break through the liberal media control and take control of the narrative. The person who controls the narrative always wins the trial. If he does that, then his third step is to take control of Washington post-election and force his agenda through. He hasn’t won anything unless he goes all the way and remakes Washington. I’m not saying he will do it. I believe he has the potential. But he also had the potential in 2016 and was utterly unprepared for the war and he got owned. I won’t know if he’s “for real” this time unless he wins and takes all. This isn't a trial. This is an election. That said, he's very good at driving narratives. The problem, as I see it, is most of those narratives are lies or misleading and that doesn't inspire confidence.
The jury and voters see through them. Some don't care, others praise him, and others see him for what he is.
Oh oh oh….. It is a trial. A trial is an election. The skills to win either are very similar. The difference is your jury is measured by millions instead of 6 or 12.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 26, 2024 19:20:19 GMT -5
They are similar in that there's a vote. However, and pardon the pun, but the bar is far lower in elections.
That said, I'd get a big kick out of Trump using his arguments in a court of law. That would be funny to watch.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 26, 2024 19:21:48 GMT -5
Oh look, we’re in the prediction business again
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 26, 2024 19:26:05 GMT -5
I’m not saying he isn’t a broken record, or that he has or hasn’t learned. I see some sign that he’s evolved by virtue of the fact he’s effectively taken over the Republican party and put out the old guard. That was no mean feat. But its only one step. He now has to break through the liberal media control and take control of the narrative. The person who controls the narrative always wins the trial. If he does that, then his third step is to take control of Washington post-election and force his agenda through. He hasn’t won anything unless he goes all the way and remakes Washington. I’m not saying he will do it. I believe he has the potential. But he also had the potential in 2016 and was utterly unprepared for the war and he got owned. I won’t know if he’s “for real” this time unless he wins and takes all. This isn't a trial. This is an election. That said, he's very good at driving narratives. The problem, as I see it, is most of those narratives are lies or misleading and that doesn't inspire confidence.
The jury and voters see through them. Some don't care, others praise him, and others see him for what he is.
Yes, he’s instinctively good at projecting narratives. But his instinct is also to wing everything he does. This is a complicated trial. It can’t be winged. The narrative has to be planned and executed with precision, force, clarity, simplicity, and persistence. Sometimes the narrative has to evolve as conditions change, but it should never be allowed to either be defined by the other side or descend into chaos or confusion. Or if you want or use a war analogy (which I also think works for trials), you have to have clearly defined objectives and a plan to accomplish them, which includes a lot of logistics in addition to grand strategy. And then its a marathon to the finish. You have to have some flexibility but flexibility cannot become distraction, and distraction is born of the other side trying to wrest control of the narrative from you. To win, Trump has to be more disciplined in his message than he ever has been. Disciplined doesn’t mean he has to play nice. He can be brutal, but it needs to be brutality focused towards his defined objectives. Which ought to be 1) focus on how left she is, 2) make her own the failures of the Biden administration and 3) (via proxies) play up her cringiness on social media at all opportunities.
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Post by mapper on Jul 26, 2024 19:26:21 GMT -5
3 months plus a week or so to go, so lots of time for "pass the popcorn" and "hold my beer and watch this" moments to come.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 26, 2024 19:27:43 GMT -5
This isn't a trial. This is an election. That said, he's very good at driving narratives. The problem, as I see it, is most of those narratives are lies or misleading and that doesn't inspire confidence.
The jury and voters see through them. Some don't care, others praise him, and others see him for what he is.
Yes, he’s instinctively good at projecting narratives. But his instinct is also to wing everything he does. This is a complicated trial. It can’t be winged. The narrative has to be planned and executed with precision, force, clarity, simplicity, and persistence. Sometimes the narrative has to evolve as conditions change, but it should never be allowed to either be defined by the other wise or descend into chaos or confusion. Or if you want or use a war analogy (which I also think works for trials), you have to have clearly defined objectives and a plan to accomplish them, which includes a lot of logistics in addition to grand strategy. And then its a marathon to the finish. You have to have some flexibility but flexibility cannot become distraction, and distraction is born of the other side trying to wrest control of the narrative from you. To win, Trump has to be more disciplined in his message than he ever has been. Disciplined doesn’t mean he has to play nice. He can be brutal, but it needs to be brutality focused towards his defined objectives. Which ought to be 1) focus on hoe left she is, 2) make her own the failures of the Biden administration and 3) (via proxies) play up her cringiness on social media at all opportunities. But muh unity ticket with toned down rhetoric Fuck Trump
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 26, 2024 19:30:51 GMT -5
This isn't a trial. This is an election. That said, he's very good at driving narratives. The problem, as I see it, is most of those narratives are lies or misleading and that doesn't inspire confidence.
The jury and voters see through them. Some don't care, others praise him, and others see him for what he is.
Yes, he’s instinctively good at projecting narratives. But his instinct is also to wing everything he does. This is a complicated trial. It can’t be winged. The narrative has to be planned and executed with precision, force, clarity, simplicity, and persistence. Sometimes the narrative has to evolve as conditions change, but it should never be allowed to either be defined by the other wise or descend into chaos or confusion. Or if you want or use a war analogy (which I also think works for trials), you have to have clearly defined objectives and a plan to accomplish them, which includes a lot of logistics in addition to grand strategy. And then its a marathon to the finish. You have to have some flexibility but flexibility cannot become distraction, and distraction is born of the other side trying to wrest control of the narrative from you. To win, Trump has to be more disciplined in his message than he ever has been. Disciplined doesn’t mean he has to play nice. He can be brutal, but it needs to be brutality focused towards his defined objectives. Which ought to be 1) focus on hoe left she is, 2) make her own the failures of the Biden administration and 3) (via proxies) play up her cringiness on social media at all opportunities. I like the war analogy even less than the trial one, but let's run with it....
Does Trump seem disciplined and focused to you?
Not sure he wants to go down the "hoe" line, given his proclivity for adultery and sexual assault.
We have already discussed cringiness, and for every wishy-washy statement from Harris there are three jaw dropping lies from Trump. Again, not sure he wins that one.
The apparent failures of the Biden administration is where I'd be focusing on if I were him.
Then again, I'm no politician, lawyer, or general.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 26, 2024 19:31:13 GMT -5
Don’t you know the right can do no wrong, and bear no responsibility for charged rhetoric.
They’re just misunderstood and can’t get a fair shake from the liberal media that run the world
See how stupid that sounds.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 26, 2024 19:38:30 GMT -5
Yes, he’s instinctively good at projecting narratives. But his instinct is also to wing everything he does. This is a complicated trial. It can’t be winged. The narrative has to be planned and executed with precision, force, clarity, simplicity, and persistence. Sometimes the narrative has to evolve as conditions change, but it should never be allowed to either be defined by the other wise or descend into chaos or confusion. Or if you want or use a war analogy (which I also think works for trials), you have to have clearly defined objectives and a plan to accomplish them, which includes a lot of logistics in addition to grand strategy. And then its a marathon to the finish. You have to have some flexibility but flexibility cannot become distraction, and distraction is born of the other side trying to wrest control of the narrative from you. To win, Trump has to be more disciplined in his message than he ever has been. Disciplined doesn’t mean he has to play nice. He can be brutal, but it needs to be brutality focused towards his defined objectives. Which ought to be 1) focus on hoe left she is, 2) make her own the failures of the Biden administration and 3) (via proxies) play up her cringiness on social media at all opportunities. I like the war analogy even less than the trial one, but let's run with it....
Does Trump seem disciplined and focused to you?
Not sure he wants to go down the "hoe" line, given his proclivity for adultery and sexual assault.
We have already discussed cringiness, and for every wishy-washy statement from Harris there are three jaw dropping lies from Trump. Again, not sure he wins that one.
The apparent failures of the Biden administration is where I'd be focusing on if I were him.
Then again, I'm no politician, lawyer, or general.
I didn’t say hoe, I said “how.” That she has that meme rep as a hoe is just coincidence. And I don’t think focusing on her personal life will yield much benefit. If people don’t care that Trump’s a man whore, they don’t care that she’s been around in the past. Other than her hooking up with that nasty old Willie Brown. That was nothing but an exchange of sex for networking. But other than being something to chide her about, no one cares. Does Trump seem disciplined? More than he used to be. Enough? I have no idea at this point. He disappointed me so in the past that he doesn’t get my benefit of the doubt now.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 26, 2024 19:41:03 GMT -5
Well, someone typed "hoe". Freudian slip, perhaps. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Fair enough. We shall see.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 26, 2024 19:46:18 GMT -5
Edit: which I say “no one cares.” There is an allegation that Brown actually got her political jobs because of the relationship. People might care about that. It would fit the ditz narrative. I generally presume that even “idiots” on the national stage aren’t true idiots in the real sense of the word or else they wouldn’t have made it to the top of what is otherwise a cut throat business. But, if she got her start because of who she slept with, and forever after appears dumb whenever she speaks, that will fit a narrative about her being some sort of diversity hire or a hoe that slept her way to the top.
That narrative pushed too hard might victimize her. Better to let it be unsaid and let people draw their own conclusions by you just putting “A”, “B” and “C” in front of them. They can connect those dots if they want. Or leave them unconnected if it turns them off.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 26, 2024 19:47:47 GMT -5
Well, someone typed "hoe". Freudian slip, perhaps. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Fair enough. We shall see. Not a Freudian slip, where I don’t think that’s a characterization he should strongly pursue. E is next to W. I usually edit my posts 3 or 4 times after submitting them to clean up typos. I can’t see the typos until I post them.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 26, 2024 20:02:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean. I do the same.
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 26, 2024 22:57:32 GMT -5
Looks like it took years of video to show what Biden does in one day. Good job. who’s Biden?
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 30, 2024 11:34:33 GMT -5
Ingraham: What can you say to reassure us that Vance was an excellent pick?
Trump: He made a statement about families. That doesn’t mean people a member of a family with 400 children— it doesn’t mean— he’s not against anything
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