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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 15, 2024 19:17:38 GMT -5
They were obviously looking at him. He was able to get at least 2 if not 3 shots off before they returned fire. Or perhaps they fired after his first and he squeezed off another.
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Post by throttle on Jul 15, 2024 22:27:43 GMT -5
All snipers had eyes on the bad guy long before he started shooting. I explained that long ago. All snipers waited until the bad guy started shooting before they shot. Now really go down the rabbit hole and try to figure out how the former firefighter was killed. His daughter said he made the family hit the ground and he laid on too of them as a shield. That had to be one of the last bullets fired. Also A stray hit a hydraulic cylinder on a telehandler about 30 yards behind the grandstand. Another late bullet Yeah, that's a weird anomaly. I've heard some explain that hesitation as "rules of engagement", the theory being that they can't engage until shots fired. That's obvious idiocy. That would be a higher bar than use of deadly force by any private citizen. And why would they not get Trump under cover regardless, as soon as a possible shooter was spotted? Even if those snipers were directed to only watch some other sector there's still a problem because Trump was left exposed after the shooter was spotted on the roof by attendees, and LE notified. Why would some LEO not radio the threat in? What are those secret service earpieces for? And there should have been multi-layered surveillance with drones and FLIR. Why was that rooftop, that whole building unsurveilled? I've also read that the shooter had previously been spotted creeping around the building but they lost track of him. Again, if so, why was Trump allowed on stage with even a possible threat? There are a lot of questions that need answering and no conceivable answer that isn't really concerning. |
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 16, 2024 5:46:58 GMT -5
All snipers had eyes on the bad guy long before he started shooting. I explained that long ago. All snipers waited until the bad guy started shooting before they shot. Now really go down the rabbit hole and try to figure out how the former firefighter was killed. His daughter said he made the family hit the ground and he laid on too of them as a shield. That had to be one of the last bullets fired. Also A stray hit a hydraulic cylinder on a telehandler about 30 yards behind the grandstand. Another late bullet Yeah, that's a weird anomaly. I've heard some explain that hesitation as "rules of engagement", the theory being that they can't engage until shots fired. That's obvious idiocy. That would be a higher bar than use of deadly force by any private citizen. And why would they not get Trump under cover regardless, as soon as a possible shooter was spotted? Even if those snipers were directed to only watch some other sector there's still a problem because Trump was left exposed after the shooter was spotted on the roof by attendees, and LE notified. Why would some LEO not radio the threat in? What are those secret service earpieces for? And there should have been multi-layered surveillance with drones and FLIR. Why was that rooftop, that whole building unsurveilled? I've also read that the shooter had previously been spotted creeping around the building but they lost track of him. Again, if so, why was Trump allowed on stage with even a possible threat? There are a lot of questions that need answering and no conceivable answer that isn't really concerning. The answer to all your questions is a set up. Pretty plain and pretty simple. The best place for any sniper who's not in fear of being exposed is high ground with a straight line of sight. Thos bullied nerd hait perfectly. He was set up with a chip shot to a presidential candidate. RFK Jr was also denied secret service protection by Homeland Security. His father and uncle we both assassinated political figures. That tells you all you need to know about out current administration and the beaurocrats that run it. Don't believe shit. It's not a failure on Security it's a failure because the shooter missed |
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Post by richm on Jul 16, 2024 6:13:17 GMT -5
I wanna know why the SS snipers saw the guy and did nothing. Why did they let him shoot first.
I'm gonna step out and assume SS snipers are like military and do what they are told to do. So who was calling the shots and why didn't they take steps to protect the ex-prez and the crowd?
Really bad image to have this idiot crawl up on the roof in full view of folks and NOTHING HAPPEN until after he shoots. The police keep not doing what they are supposed to do when someone else has a gun - school shooters, etc.
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Post by olmucky on Jul 16, 2024 6:50:16 GMT -5
I wanna know why the SS snipers saw the guy and did nothing. Why did they let him shoot first. I'm gonna step out and assume SS snipers are like military and do what they are told to do. So who was calling the shots and why didn't they take steps to protect the ex-prez and the crowd? Really bad image to have this idiot crawl up on the roof in full view of folks and NOTHING HAPPEN until after he shoots. The police keep not doing what they are supposed to do when someone else has a gun - school shooters, etc. Yeah that was the only thing that was odd It appears that based on the shooting they had him in their sights and once he shot they shot. I’m sure snipers are very good but acquiring then aiming then shooting their target with that much precision that quick would be pretty difficult I imagine they had him and were waiting for the go ahead. |
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 16, 2024 6:58:08 GMT -5
I wanna know why the SS snipers saw the guy and did nothing. Why did they let him shoot first. I'm gonna step out and assume SS snipers are like military and do what they are told to do. So who was calling the shots and why didn't they take steps to protect the ex-prez and the crowd? Really bad image to have this idiot crawl up on the roof in full view of folks and NOTHING HAPPEN until after he shoots. The police keep not doing what they are supposed to do when someone else has a gun - school shooters, etc. It's a set up.... They let the president walk on and remain on stage in front of an assassin |
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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2024 7:28:11 GMT -5
Where are you reading that the sniper had him in his sights? I read a report that some other snipers saw him acting suspicious on the ground before he got on the roof and reported it.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 16, 2024 8:18:24 GMT -5
Biden could not plan a successful trip to the bathroom.
Obama is behind everything evil that the democrats are doing.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 16, 2024 8:23:51 GMT -5
Where are you reading that the sniper had him in his sights? I read a report that some other snipers saw him acting suspicious on the ground before he got on the roof and reported it. I was told I didn't read it.... I explained that 2 days ago. A sniper had him in his sights for a confirmed 1:37 |
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Post by johngalt on Jul 16, 2024 8:25:40 GMT -5
I've really tried to bite my tongue the last few days until more details are known. I however figure enough time has gone by so I'll toss a real wrench in the cogs. Let's suppose for a minute the democrats (the power behind the curtain folks) actually planned this false flag. Get some loser Incel patsy to enact their plan. Now they know Trump's gonna be covered and it's pretty much a suicide mission. They tell him that his sacrifice is gonna save the Republic. Being a young easily manipulated Republican he goes along with for peomise his mom and dad will be taken care of. Or a large donation is made to the kitty cat care center or whatever. So if he succeeded or not the plan is put into motion. Now they know that the Trumpers are more than likely gonna respond in kind. Biden won't step down so they set it all up hoping that Trump is eliminated but if not surely a Trumper will knock off Biden. If it works they are rid of Trump and Biden. If it fails then they wait patiently for some looney wingbut to off Biden. They appoint their pick. Boom 5D Chess. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 You are close but,, It’s nothing to do with if the shooter was known or recruited or what ever. The issue is that the security detail was both dumbed down and reduced. It’s obvious that deep in the government there were no tears shed or shock and disbelief that a presidential candidate was nearly killed. I have said before on this site that there are people in the government who are not going to allow Trump back into the Whitehouse again. |
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Post by olmucky on Jul 16, 2024 8:25:43 GMT -5
Where are you reading that the sniper had him in his sights? I read a report that some other snipers saw him acting suspicious on the ground before he got on the roof and reported it. I was told I didn't read it.... I explained that 2 days ago. A sniper had him in his sights for a confirmed 1:37 That would kinda support what I said/thought too |
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Post by cadman on Jul 16, 2024 9:16:33 GMT -5
Where are you reading that the sniper had him in his sights? I read a report that some other snipers saw him acting suspicious on the ground before he got on the roof and reported it. I was told I didn't read it.... I explained that 2 days ago. A sniper had him in his sights for a confirmed 1:37 By who? Some unnamed source that we are supposed to believe you know deep in the government. Sorry if I ain't taking your word for anything. I will repeat my question to others, what RELIABLE source are you getting this information from. If it is just Treemanjohn, it is a rumor at best. |
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Post by cyclist on Jul 16, 2024 9:35:40 GMT -5
The shooter wasn't supposed to have live ammo, he was supposed to create a stir so no one talks about the right wings traitorous project 25...but he pulled one over on the trump camp because they are idiots.  |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 16, 2024 10:06:31 GMT -5
The shooter wasn't supposed to have live ammo, he was supposed to create a stir so no one talks about the right wings traitorous project 25...but he pulled one over on the trump camp because they are idiots. Pete, I think you missed your calling at writing fairytales. |
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Post by pinman on Jul 16, 2024 11:00:09 GMT -5
Analyze prior rallies' security plans. Is there a pattern of gaps?
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