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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 21:26:48 GMT -5
Right there, silly goose.
The post I quoted 4 posts above this one shows where you changed your tune, and of course there's a difference -- from "gun owner" to "likely gun owner" -- and I would suppose that's precisely why you used the word "likely" the second time, and in fact is exactly why I posted what I did in response.
Any more questions?
You really are just a dumbass.... I didnt change my tune but I was quoting Cads term but in hindsight I should have properly quoted it as "likely owned a gun" as not to confuse your literal, lack of common sense......well...."dumbass". View AttachmentI'm glad you get it now and admit your error.
It would have been much easier, albeit far less entertaining, had you opened with your hindsight.
Not everyone is as slow and imprecise as you are.
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 16, 2024 21:27:19 GMT -5
Pretty sure his real name isn’t Frankly. Sorry, not enough misspellings, grammatical mistakes, or typos for me to respond substantively.
Please try harder.
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 16, 2024 21:30:38 GMT -5
Your starting to catch on.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 17, 2024 7:11:34 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/us/neighbor-says-trump-shooters-family-had-no-political-signs-yard-parents-affiliations-surfaceBETHEL PARK, Pa. – Two neighbors of would-be Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks dismissed the attention drawn to his political affiliation, saying the family appeared to never have campaign signs of any stripe in their Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, yard. "I walk by here all the time, other neighbors do," Amy added. "You will not find one neighbor that will confirm or ever say they saw those signs in the yard." "I know who the Republicans are. I mean, he's not on the list," she said. Crooks' mother, Mary, is registered as a Democrat, while his father is registered as a libertarian.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 17, 2024 7:42:45 GMT -5
Yet the kid ended up playing out the magaa traitor agenda, assault rifle, gun culture, poor beaten down privledged white boy, and the result was another republican minded shooting.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 17, 2024 8:27:48 GMT -5
Interesting I wonder if trump bears some responsibility for the purchase of the gun that was used to shoot him. And guns used to shoot thousands of others. Ironic..Live by the sword....
REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman’s family
Siobhan Kennedy
Washington Correspondent
The family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks was among millions of voters profiled by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign
The owner of the rifle used to shoot at Donald Trump had been identified by the former president’s campaign as a strong republican, likely gun owner and “hunter”, as revealed today by Channel 4 News.
In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.
It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.
This database was first obtained and revealed by Channel 4 News in 2020.
The programme can now reveal the information was compiled as part of a secretive project aiming to identify millions of gun owners in America who could be targeted with pro-gun rights messages in the lead-up to the 2016 election campaign.
On Saturday Thomas Crooks, 20, attempted to murder former president Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
It has emerged that the AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle he used was legally purchased months earlier by his father Matthew, 53. The family is cooperating with the investigating authorities.
The FBI said it had also recovered explosive devices in the car used by Thomas Crooks which was parked near the scene and a second “suspicious device” in the family home.
There is no suggestion that any member of the Crooks family had knowledge of the assassination attempt by recent high school graduate Thomas Crooks or that they permitted the illegal use of weapons by him.
DATABASE
Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign database, obtained by Channel 4 News in 2020, lists the assailant’s parents Matthew, and his wife Mary, 53, as living at a residence in the borough of Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh.
They were among 6.7 million people in the swing state of Pennsylvania profiled for their likely ownership of firearms. Both scored highly, with Crook’s father Matthew given particularly high scores.
Data scientists can analyse relatively small original datasets to determine the characteristics that would make someone likely, for example, to be a gun owner. Using machine learning they can generate models that match those characteristics across the population, assigning individuals a likelihood score.
The gun-related profiles which appear in the 2016 Trump campaign database range between 0 – meaning no likelihood – and 1 – a certainty.
Matthew Crooks scored highly across a range of gun-related models including: 0.99 for the likelihood of returning a warranty card for a firearms purchase; 0.95 for the likelihood of pursuing hunting sports; and 0.94 for the likelihood of shopping at the hunting retailer
Overall, averaged across all three of these measures, out of more than 19,000 people in Bethel Park, Matthew Crooks was among the top 20 highest scoring individuals.
In total, the data technique was deployed in ten swing states – scoring a total of around 50 million individuals – to find voters who could be susceptible to political messages about gun-rights, a bedrock issue in all of Donald Trump’s presidential campaigns.
While the Crooks family were assigned scores derived from models, such models are not necessarily accurate and may not reflect the Crooks family’s actual views or gun ownership at that time.
Channel 4 News has approached the Trump campaign for comment.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 17, 2024 9:02:05 GMT -5
 Seriously, think about the substance of the article’s assertion. Both parents are social workers. The mother is a Democrat. Fit the profile of gun nuts? Either the article is false, or the database used to profile them is bogus. I get solicitations from Democrat groups from time to time. No idea why they peg me. Perhaps they presume attorneys are liberal? The substance of that article means little in terms of proving anything about the parents. The evidence concerning a political motivation appears to be a contradictory mess. Or a black hole. Assuming authorities are not sitting on significant info. |
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Post by johngalt on Jul 17, 2024 9:07:29 GMT -5
The guy fits the description of what a mass shooter is.
The opportunity for him to make a name for himself was presented 10 miles from his home.
If that rally would not have been there he would probably have chosen a shopping center or a school.
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Post by cadman on Jul 17, 2024 9:09:00 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/us/neighbor-says-trump-shooters-family-had-no-political-signs-yard-parents-affiliations-surfaceBETHEL PARK, Pa. – Two neighbors of would-be Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks dismissed the attention drawn to his political affiliation, saying the family appeared to never have campaign signs of any stripe in their Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, yard. "I walk by here all the time, other neighbors do," Amy added. "You will not find one neighbor that will confirm or ever say they saw those signs in the yard.""I know who the Republicans are. I mean, he's not on the list," she said. Crooks' mother, Mary, is registered as a Democrat, while his father is registered as a libertarian. She is wrong about that. A neighbor in Bethel Park, the Pittsburgh suburb where Crooks lived, said they saw pro-Trump signs in the family's yard as recently as a few months ago. "There absolutely was MAGA-supporting signs for a while," Kelly Little told WTAE-TV. Who do you believe? www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-donald-trump-sign-yard-neighbor-assassination-attempt-1925678Also, didn't another report say the father was on the Trump list of likely gun owners? Seems like that would put him on the local list as well. Amy says she is the local Republican captain and the father was not on her list. How can that be? The father was a registered Republican. |
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Post by cyclist on Jul 17, 2024 9:09:29 GMT -5
A libertarian dude with an assault rifle and a democrat spouse,both targeted by the trump gun lobby shills. If its true? I've always said the only thing worse than a right wing republican is a libertarian. Is this as absurd as the original post? |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 17, 2024 9:13:54 GMT -5
Seriously, think about the substance of the article’s assertion. Both parents are social workers. The mother is a Democrat. Fit the profile of gun nuts? Either the article is false, or the database used to profile them is bogus. I get solicitations from Democrat groups from time to time. No idea why they peg me. Perhaps they presume attorneys are liberal? The substance of that article means little in terms of proving anything about the parents. The evidence concerning a political motivation appears to be a contradictory mess. Or a black hole. Assuming authorities are sitting on significant info. Exactly! I've been sitting back for a few days now waiting for someone to speak up. That kid and his parents are no more conservative, gun nutted, or Republican than BT, Tarp, or Pete are Trump voters. |
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Post by cyclist on Jul 17, 2024 9:16:23 GMT -5
Seriously, think about the substance of the article’s assertion. Both parents are social workers. The mother is a Democrat. Fit the profile of gun nuts? Either the article is false, or the database used to profile them is bogus. I get solicitations from Democrat groups from time to time. No idea why they peg me. Perhaps they presume attorneys are liberal? The substance of that article means little in terms of proving anything about the parents. The evidence concerning a political motivation appears to be a contradictory mess. Or a black hole. Assuming authorities are sitting on significant info. Exactly! I've been sitting back for a few days now waiting for someone to speak up. That kid and his parents are no more conservative, gun nutted, or Republican than BT, Tarp, or Pete are Trump voters. Well that is certainly not according to current facts. |
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Post by johngalt on Jul 17, 2024 9:16:32 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/us/neighbor-says-trump-shooters-family-had-no-political-signs-yard-parents-affiliations-surfaceBETHEL PARK, Pa. – Two neighbors of would-be Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks dismissed the attention drawn to his political affiliation, saying the family appeared to never have campaign signs of any stripe in their Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, yard. "I walk by here all the time, other neighbors do," Amy added. "You will not find one neighbor that will confirm or ever say they saw those signs in the yard.""I know who the Republicans are. I mean, he's not on the list," she said. Crooks' mother, Mary, is registered as a Democrat, while his father is registered as a libertarian. She is wrong about that. A neighbor in Bethel Park, the Pittsburgh suburb where Crooks lived, said they saw pro-Trump signs in the family's yard as recently as a few months ago. "There absolutely was MAGA-supporting signs for a while," Kelly Little told WTAE-TV. Who do you believe? www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-donald-trump-sign-yard-neighbor-assassination-attempt-1925678Also, didn't another report say the father was on the Trump list of likely gun owners? Seems like that would put him on the local list as well. Amy says she is the local Republican captain and the father was not on her list. How can that be? Why are the parents of the shooter being dragged into this for their politics or their occupations? The guy was 20 years old. He was an adult. He also was pretty educated. If he had been a 16 year old there would have been an issue. I could care less what political party or occupation the parents are. This is all a big distraction from the main issue. The incompetence and failure of government. Keep watching the shiny object. |
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 17, 2024 9:21:22 GMT -5
Exactly! I've been sitting back for a few days now waiting for someone to speak up. That kid and his parents are no more conservative, gun nutted, or Republican than BT, Tarp, or Pete are Trump voters. Well that is certainly not according to current facts. Try as they might, nobody on this website knows the "facts". Particularly if they're listening to all the noise and ignoring their eyes and brains. |
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Post by cadman on Jul 17, 2024 9:43:07 GMT -5
She is wrong about that. A neighbor in Bethel Park, the Pittsburgh suburb where Crooks lived, said they saw pro-Trump signs in the family's yard as recently as a few months ago. "There absolutely was MAGA-supporting signs for a while," Kelly Little told WTAE-TV. Who do you believe? www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-donald-trump-sign-yard-neighbor-assassination-attempt-1925678Also, didn't another report say the father was on the Trump list of likely gun owners? Seems like that would put him on the local list as well. Amy says she is the local Republican captain and the father was not on her list. How can that be?
The guy was 20 years old. He was an adult. He also was pretty educated. If he had been a 16 year old there would have been an issue. I could care less what political party or occupation the parents are. This is all a big distraction from the main issue. The incompetence and failure of government. Keep watching the shiny object. i said that a long time ago, but the argument keeps going with some trying their best to portray them as liberals and claim the kid was a liberal. As my reply indicates, we don't know what the parents were. One neighbor says one thing, another neighbor says the opposite. A lot of hearsay is all we got. Unless the parents make some kind of public statement or do the talk show tour, we may never know. The kid was mentally unbalanced. I think his parents knew this but overlooked it as it was their child and they probably thought he wasn't capable of anything like this. It is unlikely we ever find out his true motives, but my guess is, he was looking for his 15 minutes of fame. He may have chosen Trump just because he was in town that week. Who knows. |
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