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Post by meateater on Jul 15, 2024 10:08:13 GMT -5
The only thing that isnt a conspiracy is the total failure of the Secret Service. since it appears im the only guy here with the experience and expertise to comment on this here it goes . we had better security guarding gas trucks parked in the middle of the desert. thats a fact. 150yds, 300yds, hell 1000yd rooftop with a clear line of sight to target should have been manned by local or state police if not secret service. whoever was in charge of security this day should be fired immediately as well as 2nd in command.
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Post by toldya on Jul 15, 2024 10:11:12 GMT -5
Plenty of people hate Trump a life long liberal New York loud mouth for destroying the Republican party. I'm sure we will find out in the days to come what internet forums and everything else about this guy. A lot of things don't add up, but do they ever. Had he been successful we would already know his middle name because all assassin's are called by their full name. đ¤ Of course both sides will try to spin the narrative despite any evidence to the contrary. It's so predictable at this point. Helicopters, drones, snipers, and hundreds of uniformed and plain clothes officers, agents, and thr like and this "kid" is able to get to a roof, set up, and take a shot or 3??? After the shot Trump is allowed to stand for a couple of photo op pics instead of being whisked away to a car? All the while saying let me get my shoes? One thing is for sure and that is Biden appointed the head of the SS . Just as he appointed Harris " the border czar " . Pelosi and the DC mayor responsible for security at the Capitol .
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 15, 2024 10:13:14 GMT -5
A report just came out claiming the shooter was confronted by a local police officer moments before the shooting, on the roof, and the officer retreated after the shooter pointed his gun at him. The officer was hanging on the the edge of the roof, let go and fell to the ground. There was no way the officer could get to his weapon. It was either minutes or seconds before the shooter opened fire, depending on which news agency is reporting. A local police officer spotted would-be assassin Thomas Crooks on the rooftop from which he tried to kill Donald Trump but was forced to back off when he confronted him.
Crooks aimed his rifle at the officer, who could not reach his own gun, before firing about eight shots at the former president.
Trumpâs ear was grazed, a bystander was killed, and two others at the rally were wounded on Saturday.
Butler County Sheriff Michael T Slupe said the officer was gripping the edge of the roof after climbing up using a ladder, and could not reach his gun, when Crooks aimed at him.
âHe lets go because he doesnât want to get killed,â the sheriff said.
www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/07/15/trump-gunman-forced-policeman-to-back-off-in-rooftop-confro/What about the ladder leaning on the building?
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 15, 2024 10:14:07 GMT -5
View AttachmentCad, did you remove your post where you said I didnât verify the shooterâs address and that its âawkwardâ that I didnât check my sources? Did you delete your own post because you found out I was right, that the shooterâs address is one and the same as person who donated to the Leftist group? You also chided me for not noticing that a Thomas Crooks had contributed to the same group a lot over the years. But you failed to see that other Thomas Crooks was out of California based on the same link you provided. You're not use to that yet?
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 15, 2024 10:24:51 GMT -5
No bias distortions here. No nothing here đ¤Łđ
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Post by johngalt on Jul 15, 2024 10:25:28 GMT -5
Got to maintain his know it all status I donât fault him for making a mistake. We all do. I do fault him for being snarky, trying to play a gotcha game with me, and then trying to hide it when he realized he was wrong. I read his post first thing this morning. I just didnât have time to respond until right now. Cad said it was unknown whether the Thomas Crooks contributed to the Leftist group was the same, suggested that he probably was not the same because Thomas Crooks had been contributing to this group for years, and that I hadnât done my homework and shame on me for not verifying it. But of course, it was verified that the shooterâs address was the same as the contributorâs address, and the other Thomas Crooks whoâs contributed to the group over the years was a different person out of California. As I said in another thread, this (Crooks) was fed so much garbage and hate for almost half his life itâs no wonder he did what he did. He should have been easily stopped. The failure is our government and its bloated, corrupt bureaucracyâs. Not to mention their are a large number of people in government who were hoping for an incident like this to happen.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 15, 2024 10:35:09 GMT -5
I donât fault him for making a mistake. We all do. I do fault him for being snarky, trying to play a gotcha game with me, and then trying to hide it when he realized he was wrong. I read his post first thing this morning. I just didnât have time to respond until right now. Cad said it was unknown whether the Thomas Crooks contributed to the Leftist group was the same, suggested that he probably was not the same because Thomas Crooks had been contributing to this group for years, and that I hadnât done my homework and shame on me for not verifying it. But of course, it was verified that the shooterâs address was the same as the contributorâs address, and the other Thomas Crooks whoâs contributed to the group over the years was a different person out of California. As I said in another thread, this (Crooks) was fed so much garbage and hate for almost half his life itâs no wonder he did what he did. He should have been easily stopped. The failure is our government and its bloated, corrupt bureaucracyâs. Not to mention their are a large number of people in government who were hoping for an incident like this to happen. He was a registered republican...I concur. Damaged lost people.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 15, 2024 11:05:09 GMT -5
I donât fault him for making a mistake. We all do. I do fault him for being snarky, trying to play a gotcha game with me, and then trying to hide it when he realized he was wrong. I read his post first thing this morning. I just didnât have time to respond until right now. Cad said it was unknown whether the Thomas Crooks contributed to the Leftist group was the same, suggested that he probably was not the same because Thomas Crooks had been contributing to this group for years, and that I hadnât done my homework and shame on me for not verifying it. But of course, it was verified that the shooterâs address was the same as the contributorâs address, and the other Thomas Crooks whoâs contributed to the group over the years was a different person out of California. As I said in another thread, this (Crooks) was fed so much garbage and hate for almost half his life itâs no wonder he did what he did. He should have been easily stopped. The failure is our government and its bloated, corrupt bureaucracyâs. Not to mention their are a large number of people in government who were hoping for an incident like this to happen. I agree, he was clearly radicalized.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 15, 2024 11:25:17 GMT -5
Has the monster he created turned on the good doctor?
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Post by olmucky on Jul 15, 2024 11:36:47 GMT -5
[quote timestamp="1721055695" source="/post/9884. Not to mention their are a large number of people in government who were hoping for an incident like this to happen. *encouraged it
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2024 11:44:35 GMT -5
View AttachmentCad, did you remove your post where you said I didnât verify the shooterâs address and that its âawkwardâ that I didnât check my sources? Did you delete your own post because you found out I was right, that the shooterâs address is one and the same as person who donated to the Leftist group? You also chided me for not noticing that a Thomas Crooks had contributed to the same group a lot over the years. But you failed to see that other Thomas Crooks was out of California based on the same link you provided. I misread the form. Why did you blur the address, it is all over the internet.
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2024 11:54:20 GMT -5
Got to maintain his know it all status I donât fault him for making a mistake. We all do. I do fault him for being snarky, trying to play a gotcha game with me, and then trying to hide it when he realized he was wrong. I read his post first thing this morning. I just didnât have time to respond until right now. Cad said it was unknown whether the Thomas Crooks contributed to the Leftist group was the same, suggested that he probably was not the same because Thomas Crooks had been contributing to this group for years, and that I hadnât done my homework and shame on me for not verifying it. But of course, it was verified that the shooterâs address was the same as the contributorâs address, and the other Thomas Crooks whoâs contributed to the group over the years was a different person out of California. What I said was, there was no address on the actual form, it only said the city and state. When I looked at it later, I noticed the form did list the street address and noticed I had made an error. I deleted my post due to my mistake. I never mentioned the other Thomas Crook from California. I said, since it didn't list the address, we don't if it was the kid or not. My only "snarkiness" was using the same comment you made to BT which was "Now isnât that awkward?"
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Post by cadman on Jul 15, 2024 11:58:20 GMT -5
The officer was hanging on the the edge of the roof, let go and fell to the ground. There was no way the officer could get to his weapon. It was either minutes or seconds before the shooter opened fire, depending on which news agency is reporting. A local police officer spotted would-be assassin Thomas Crooks on the rooftop from which he tried to kill Donald Trump but was forced to back off when he confronted him.
Crooks aimed his rifle at the officer, who could not reach his own gun, before firing about eight shots at the former president.
Trumpâs ear was grazed, a bystander was killed, and two others at the rally were wounded on Saturday.
Butler County Sheriff Michael T Slupe said the officer was gripping the edge of the roof after climbing up using a ladder, and could not reach his gun, when Crooks aimed at him.
âHe lets go because he doesnât want to get killed,â the sheriff said.
www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/07/15/trump-gunman-forced-policeman-to-back-off-in-rooftop-confro/What about the ladder leaning on the building? One report says ladder, another says a fellow officer hoisted him up. Whichever it was, it was not tall enough to get to the roof hence the guy used his hands to pull himself up to the roof, according to the news reports. Not sure why an officer would risk falling to the ground if he could use a ladder to simply duck. But I was not there, just going by news reports.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 15, 2024 12:07:44 GMT -5
What about the ladder leaning on the building? One report says ladder, another says a fellow officer hoisted him up. Whichever it was, it was not tall enough to get to the roof hence the guy used his hands to pull himself up to the roof, according to the news reports. Not sure why an officer would risk falling to the ground if he could use a ladder to simply duck. But I was not there, just going by news reports. The bad guy conveniently had a ladder on the building. You're getting bad info
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Post by gardawg on Jul 15, 2024 12:11:22 GMT -5
Has the monster he created turned on the good doctor?
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