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Post by cadman on Jul 14, 2024 14:23:30 GMT -5
So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. What produced this 20 year old assassin is absolutely relevant. If he was truly crazy, how did two licensed psychologists 1) produce him and 2) fail to intercede before it got to this point? Do you feel good about 2 licensed psychologists, whose profession is to help the mentally ill or the mentally/emotionally struggling, producing and not subsequently identifying a Presidential assassin at 20 years old? The gun came from his father. There is an old saying "doctor, don't treat thyself". It could apply here with "doctor, don't treat thy son". It was their child. I doubt they looked at it objectively as an outsider would. They may have known he was having problems, but, as parents, didn't believe their son was capable of such actions. We really won't know. What produced him may have been bullying at school. One classmate said he was bullied. Maybe parents were too strict or not strict enough. Maybe he was depressed that as a smart kid (according to other classmates and an award he got) he was washing dishes for a living. Who knows what makes a person snap and become a killer. But the issue of which political party he belonged to did not make him a killer. His political philosophy is irrelevant to what made him do this. My guess would be he was looking looking for his 15 minutes of fame. The really sad part is, if history has taught us anything from other shootings, his notoriety will likely embolden other nuts to try similar acts. I read the Secret Service is increasing protection for Biden, Trump, and RFK after this event and that is likely a very good idea.
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Post by bullfrog on Jul 14, 2024 14:24:30 GMT -5
View AttachmentThe bullet is the silver streak to our right (Trump’s left). It looks like a long rod. Can u have a News photographer taken regular pictures have a camera that is high tech to pick up an AR 15 .223 bullet that exits the nozzle at 3,000 ft per sec that converts to 2,250 miles a hr only traveling 300 to 400 ft if it drops to 2,000 mph nearly 3 times the speed of sound is anybody a camera buff? I regularly catch much slower bullets on cheaper cameras on my Youtube channel. Instead of being a long streak, they’re the singular bullet frozen in flight or a short streak. Those are flying slower than the sound barrier. I would expect a proper high-velocity-rifle round from a firearm to look like a long streak in a singular frame instead of being a bullet. If I can remember which videos show bullets, I’ll do some screen shots.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 14:28:58 GMT -5
Did the parents groom him for the gun culture?
Since we're blaming the parents now, perhaps we can knowledge the possibility that if they never had a gun at home this kid might had just built the world's largest Lego ship instead of , well, you know.
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 14, 2024 14:35:35 GMT -5
So was I right, was it staged 😎
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 14:49:13 GMT -5
I'm sure now that more facts are out both sides will tone down the rhetoric in their respective campaigns, right?
I'm talking strictly what comes out of the mouths of the actual candidates.
I'm guessing both side are not going to take this approach.
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Post by cyclist on Jul 14, 2024 14:50:47 GMT -5
So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. What produced this 20 year old assassin is absolutely relevant. If he was truly crazy, how did two licensed psychologists 1) produce him and 2) fail to intercede before it got to this point? Do you feel good about 2 licensed psychologists, whose profession is to help the mentally ill or the mentally/emotionally struggling, producing and not subsequently identifying a Presidential assassin at 20 years old? The gun came from his father. Sounds like he was sucked into the right wing gun nut culture, curious to his motive.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 14, 2024 14:54:16 GMT -5
View AttachmentThe bullet is the silver streak to our right (Trump’s left). It looks like a long rod. Can u have a News photographer taken regular pictures have a camera that is high tech to pick up an AR 15 .223 bullet that exits the nozzle at 3,000 ft per sec that converts to 2,250 miles a hr only traveling 300 to 400 ft if it drops to 2,000 mph nearly 3 times the speed of sound is anybody a camera buff? It's not a big deal at all. I can photograph hummingbirds and get each wing flap individually frozen solid. Same with bees.
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Post by Zif on Jul 14, 2024 15:08:57 GMT -5
A report just came out claiming the shooter was confronted by a local police officer moments before the shooting, on the roof, and the officer retreated after the shooter pointed his gun at him.
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Post by olmucky on Jul 14, 2024 15:13:14 GMT -5
Reports are stabilizing that the assassin's parents are both psychologists. That appears to be confirmed. It is also being reported that both are registered Democrats. But I don't considered that fact to be established yet. So what? His parents didn't try to kill Trump, the crazy kid did. The kid must of had some mental issues. Maybe the parents knew it wasn't mentally balanced, but never thought he would try to kill an ex-president running for office. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the kids political leanings. it is meaningless and doesn't reflect on either party. Crazy people are out there on both sides. Every time one of these type of events happen, you waste your time trying to claim the shooter was of one political philosophy or the other. Crazy don't have a political position. That’s the most succinct post on here.
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 14, 2024 15:14:47 GMT -5
Regardless of how you feel about the man, this is very serious. Political violence is categorically unacceptable. Full stop. One of the first sane things you’ve said in a long while! Welcome back! Hope you stay a while!
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 15:21:52 GMT -5
I'm sure, after some introspection, that both campaigns will throttle back the invective and focus on policy going forward, right?
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 15:36:23 GMT -5
A report just came out claiming the shooter was confronted by a local police officer moments before the shooting, on the roof, and the officer retreated after the shooter pointed his gun at him. Bad guys are outgunning law enforcement, you don't say?
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 14, 2024 15:38:10 GMT -5
If this guy really was a 2A nut, he just set his cause back. (perverted interpretations, of course)
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Post by walkerdog on Jul 14, 2024 15:41:19 GMT -5
J6 defenders talking about class, GMAFB. Who here is defending the J6 riot? Nobody that I’ve seen. Some may see the prosecution as being unequal application of the law, but pretty much everyone agrees that participating in a riot was a stupid move by some stupid people. Always is.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 14, 2024 15:43:03 GMT -5
A report just came out claiming the shooter was confronted by a local police officer moments before the shooting, on the roof, and the officer retreated after the shooter pointed his gun at him. I wonder how long between when this confrontation took place and the first shot rang out? Do radio comms work during a rally? If so, why was Next President Trump allowed to stand around a moment longer?
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